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cmjb13

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« Reply #60 on: April 13, 2006, 08:42:20 AM »
[quote name=\'isucgv\' post=\'116008\' date=\'Apr 12 2006, 09:21 PM\']
You know, I have looked at the pics now 3 or 4 times.  I really, truly thought they were real and not a plasma screen.  Let's hope they duplicate this for the O'Hurley years. :)
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Me too.

And I had 3 row seats.
Enjoy lots and lots of backstage TPIR photos and other fun stuff here. And yes, I did park in Syd Vinnedge's parking spot at CBS

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« Reply #61 on: April 13, 2006, 01:23:52 PM »
Give the set designers and construction crew a raise!!  Hire them for the O'Hurley Feud!!

Like Chris, I too, am in jaw-dropping-awe over those scoreboards.  OUTSTANDING work on those!

I also agree that the production company/casino taking some promo shots and posting them on the casino website and/or promotional flyer.  When people I know hear 'Family Feud', they either think of the fun Dawson/Combs versions or of the dull/robotic/no life Karn version.  Show them those cool promo pics and watch attendance soar!

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« Reply #62 on: April 13, 2006, 06:12:14 PM »
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'115821\' date=\'Apr 10 2006, 02:36 PM\']
Well folks, this is history in the making: the Family Feud stage show looks better, sounds better, and has a better emcee than the television show:

Original set vs. cast-off set from a TV pilot which takes place on a UFO

Original music vs. Radio Shack percussion machine

Michael Burger vs. Richard "the Termite" Karn
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Would it be safe to say that the two are targeting two different demos, thus the difference?

Casinos generally target the elderly, who would be more familiar with the classic set than the TV version.

The TV version, apparently tries to target young demos, thus the current set. (until we see what's in store in the fall)
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« Reply #63 on: April 13, 2006, 08:22:32 PM »
[quote name=\'mparrish11\' post=\'116080\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 01:23 PM\']
Like Chris, I too, am in jaw-dropping-awe over those scoreboards.  OUTSTANDING work on those!
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Many thanks for the compliments.

I must say that I was really impressed with Michael.  While I only saw him host through rehearsals, I saw his real talent for improvising comedy on the spot. I'm sure Chris can vouch for me there.

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« Reply #64 on: April 13, 2006, 08:42:17 PM »
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[quote name=\'mparrish11\' post=\'116080\' date=\'Apr 13 2006, 01:23 PM\']
Like Chris, I too, am in jaw-dropping-awe over those scoreboards.  OUTSTANDING work on those!
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Many thanks for the compliments.

I must say that I was really impressed with Michael.  While I only saw him host through rehearsals, I saw his real talent for improvising comedy on the spot. I'm sure Chris can vouch for me there.
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Last year when I went to see TPIR Live, I just missed Burger's last show of his run. A friend who was with me stated he did a better job here than at TPIR.

I thought he was very good and interacted with contestants very well. Best thing was, like Summers, he kept the game moving (even with the old rules) and it never got boring.
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« Reply #65 on: April 13, 2006, 10:49:51 PM »
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Would it be safe to say that the two are targeting two different demos, thus the difference?

Casinos generally target the elderly, who would be more familiar with the classic set than the TV version.

The TV version, apparently tries to target young demos, thus the current set.
I am not aware of any research which proves that game shows performed on a set cast off from a TV pilot set on a UFO attract a more desirable demo.

FF Live & TPIR Live are run by Andy Felsher, whose dad produced the original TV version of FF. Andy grew up in the game show business and has better taste and judgement than your typical modern-day TV executive, IMO.

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« Reply #66 on: April 16, 2006, 12:41:35 AM »
I went to see Family Feud Live Friday night.  I enjoyed TPIR Live more.  I was disappointed by the fact that they don't explain how the first family was picked to play.  Also, I think they need more than three questions to determine winners.  Also, the show only lasted an hour and ten minutes (one of the games only had two rounds, this probably contributed to it).  The show doesn't work as well as TPIR Live IMHO because the audience is not allowed to partcipate during the games.  I did enjoy Michael Berger as host.  The jackpot round was $10,500 and not won.  The difficulty of the questions leads me to beliieve it may not be won for a long time.

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« Reply #67 on: April 16, 2006, 08:19:44 AM »
[quote name=\'goongas\' post=\'116263\' date=\'Apr 16 2006, 12:41 AM\']I was disappointed by the fact that they don't explain how the first family was picked to play.  
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Agreed. I think they are either high rollers or they are chosen randomly by computer based on seats purchased for the show. I'd like for them to do some sort of survey question during registration so there are 20 audience members to play the game.

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Also, I think they need more than three questions to determine winners.  
I think 3 questions is enough. It's the answers (4), instead of (6), that doesn't weed out most of the people. 4 is too easy and, again, most people get them all right and it comes down to speed.

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Also, the show only lasted an hour and ten minutes (one of the games only had two rounds, this probably contributed to it).  
Not so bad when I have a 90 minute drive home.

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The show doesn't work as well as TPIR Live IMHO because the audience is not allowed to partcipate during the games.
Burger had stated after the show that the audience is so quiet, it's like they are taking a test. I like the show better than Price. And we may get rotating hosts. I'd give this show another few months to tweak any remaining aspects of the show. If it's still drawing half a house in a few months, I may be concerned. But I'm not sure what the break even point per night is. As long as it makes money, I don't see it going anywhere.
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« Reply #68 on: April 17, 2006, 06:38:06 AM »
If I were Herman Fremantle, the next Goodson property I'd dust off for a live franchise would be Card Sharks (the NBC version, not CS 2001). It is dead-nuts simple to produce -- simply recycle questions from the network versions, the contestants don't have to know anything, and audiences can whip themselves into an apoplectic state by shouting "higher" and "lower". The card game would fit right into a casino setting.
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« Reply #69 on: April 17, 2006, 08:51:27 AM »
When I saw the final product of the 2001 version of "Card Sharks," I was suprised to see that the show was so bastardized. Even "Match Game" stuck with filling in the blank, and the Audience/Head-to-Head Match.

With a little creativity, "Card Sharks" can easily run as a half hour program, with the match ending at 22:00 or wherever they need it, and it can be done with no returning champions. And it can be done the way we remember it: with two decks of cards, survey questions, the works. I don't understand why they went with the shortened game of one line of cards, which is really silly. How much sense does it make for me to win the game without having done anything except watch the other guy miss the sixth call?

I'm not getting my hopes up yet, we're a long way off, but "Card Sharks" deserves another chance to shine.
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« Reply #70 on: April 17, 2006, 08:59:04 AM »
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Apr 17 2006, 05:51 AM\']With a little creativity, "Card Sharks" can easily run as a half hour program, with the match ending at 22:00 or wherever they need it, and it can be done with no returning champions. And it can be done the way we remember it: with two decks of cards, survey questions, the works.[/quote]
Might take more than a little creativity if the match lasts all of two questions.

(Please tell me you wouldn't encourage them to Lingo-ize it and give 25 points a card and 50 for clearing the row. Please?)
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« Reply #71 on: April 17, 2006, 10:48:53 AM »
[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' post=\'116327\' date=\'Apr 17 2006, 07:59 AM\']
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Apr 17 2006, 05:51 AM\']With a little creativity, "Card Sharks" can easily run as a half hour program, with the match ending at 22:00 or wherever they need it, and it can be done with no returning champions.[/quote]
Might take more than a little creativity if the match lasts all of two questions.

(Please tell me you wouldn't encourage them to Lingo-ize it and give 25 points a card and 50 for clearing the row. Please?)
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*I* surely wouldn't.  Rather than a 2-out-of-3 match, how 'bout we play as many games as possible, first game worth $100, each additional game worth $50 more; after each game, a two-card double-or-nothing Money Card pick?  Most cash at the end of the show plays the Traditional Money Cards.

Or borrow the "Special Deck" from the TPiR Card Game, and the winner of each game cuts that deck to determine her/his prize; again, high score when time's called plays Money Cards...
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« Reply #72 on: April 17, 2006, 10:56:28 AM »
Why must it increase as the show progresses? Winning one game is just as hard as winning another. I wouldn't mind the first game at $100 as a practice, and the remaining ones at $200, but there's no compelling reason to increase the stakes like that just because we're later in the show. (My idea was almost the same; keeping it at $100 per win, though.)

The "Card Game" idea makes that even worse. You're introducing a huge variable in the amount of the prize, plus it determines the winner. If you want to award a prize to the winner like "Concentration" did, that would be fine.
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« Reply #73 on: April 17, 2006, 11:40:42 AM »
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'116341\' date=\'Apr 17 2006, 07:56 AM\']
Why must it increase as the show progresses? Winning one game is just as hard as winning another. I wouldn't mind the first game at $100 as a practice, and the remaining ones at $200, but there's no compelling reason to increase the stakes like that just because we're later in the show. (My idea was almost the same; keeping it at $100 per win, though.)
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Ya know, I had noticed this and was gonna say something, and Travis's comments here reminded me.

We have a lot of people here who get all up in arms about a scoring system for a given show being "unfair". And they're not wrong, but it shows, with all due respect, why they don't work in the business. Because it's not about being "fair" most of the time, it's about making good TV. And a scoring system where someone runs away with the game in the first half and we have to plod through the rest of it does not make for a good TV, whereas one where the other player can make a quick burst and catch right back up does.

(And the idea of playing Card Sharks until we hear the Time's Up Bell hits me the same place it hits Steve. Which is to say, a very tender location.)
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« Reply #74 on: April 17, 2006, 11:53:03 AM »
I don't think that having the match turn on one game is that good of TV, either. Even as a youngster, I noticed that a 1000-1000 tie on Hollywood Squares meant that one person won two games to the other's one. Sure, it's exciting to have the game hinge on a single question, but it's counterintuitive. The one guy won two games, and yet he's going home. That's my beef. I thought it was stupid then, I think it's stupid now. I don't see how that disqualifies me from a career in the industry any more than the fact that I'm 2,000 miles away from LA does. A producer that thinks outside the box could come up with a happy medium. Sometimes you can't work around that. The ninth guy to get called on down will not have as many chances as the first four. Sometimes the Big Wheel is capricious, and the showcase is full of furniture. TPIR is never going to be close to fair, and that's OK. A Jeopardy! contestant could be rolling along, while another person gets one right, bets big on a Daily Double, and it's now a ball game. Nature of the beast, there. I don't think that's necessary for "Card Sharks," though I concede that it's less bothersome because the whole game is revolved around the luck of the cards.

I was merely voicing my displeasure with the idea that the stakes must march up the scale every game. If you're going to do that, go whole hog and make the first game worth $100, and re-double it every time. That way you're guaranteed that whoever wins the last game goes to the Money Cards, and that's exciting because either player can win that last game. Or make a total mockery of the whole thing like "The Cheap Show" did, and have the first two rounds worth $100, and all rounds after that worth $2000.

Personally, I don't understand why producers are so against the idea that games can continue through to the next show anyway. "Card Sharks" was at its best in the original NBC incarnation, I'm merely trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. ANY results are going to be unsatisfactory.
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