1 vs. 100 coming to NBC...

[TLEberle]

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'117059\' date=\'Apr 26 2006, 12:03 PM\']Criminey sakes, how many different packagers have come up with a rip-off of The $64,000 Question?[/quote]I don't get it. The whole point of most game shows is risking what you have to win more. Let's Make a Deal, Hollywood Showdown, Sale of the Century, The Joker's Wild (originally, and I thought the Joker's Jackpot was very clever).

Just because a new game show uses the 'take it or leave it' mechanic as their main game element doesn't mean they're ripping off anything. The reason it's used is because it's compelling. Will the champion risk $150,000 in prizes to win $800,000 more in cash? If she DOES, will she win the lot, or go home with pocket change? Will the Dran-o be in the $16,000 bag, or should the contestant have quit with $8,000. If there's no risk, there's no drama.

It sound interesting, but the vibe I get from a show synopsis ending with "Produced by Endemol" is that it's a neat idea blown way out of proportion. I think "100 to 1" would be a neat game if played for $10,000 a question. It sounds like a fun game. I would not be against having another game show airing here in the United States.

[zachhoran]

[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' post=\'117072\' date=\'Apr 26 2006, 05:12 PM\']



There were just 50 audience members in The Better Sex bonus round.

[/quote]

30, not 50.

[MikeK]

[quote name=\'zachhoran\' post=\'117088\' date=\'Apr 26 2006, 08:03 PM\']
[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' post=\'117072\' date=\'Apr 26 2006, 05:12 PM\']There were just 50 audience members in The Better Sex bonus round.[/quote]

30, not 50.
[/quote]
OH DEAR LORD, I MADE AN ERROR.  Forgive me Father Zach for I have sinned.

There were 70 on the pilot.  Put that in your mental rolodex of minutiae and smoke it, Zachariah.

[Gus]

[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' post=\'117072\' date=\'Apr 26 2006, 05:12 PM\']
I don't think this would work well as a half hour show.  The Dutch format is time-consuming, between video questions and the presentation of Postcode Loterij checks to lottery winners.
[/quote]

Well, when you cut out the video questions and the Loterij checks and whatnot and just get to the questions, I think it would run along at a nice clip.

On a slightly unrelated note, I had always thought that a better title for an English-language version of the game than the literally-translated "1 vs 100" would be "1-on-100", as a play off the phrase "one-on-one".

[NickS]

[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'117065\' date=\'Apr 26 2006, 03:27 PM\']
First off, i'm a fan of Ein Tegen 100, and have waited for this to come overseas.

But, i'm a little curious to see how this show is going to look after NBC adds models, hyperactive contestants, their families, ponies, Hummers, WWE-family related players, the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders, an overcaffeniated audience, a choir, and a puppy.

If they can get past all of that, this should be a great game. And, looking farther into the crystal Storm Team 8 Skymax Doppler 8-Ball, a good companion for D/nD when they introduce them both as an hour combo in syndication for Fall 2007.

(Yes, I do get paid well to make predictions.)
[/quote]

If NBC adds models, cheerleaders and hummers, then you've got a 70's porn movie... and not a game.

(No, I don't get paid a dime to make bad jokes.)  Besides, in reality, it sounds like you really can't go crazy on the cheez whiz with this show -- it's Q/A in a competition (albeit mild) format.

[TLEberle]

[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'117034\' date=\'Apr 26 2006, 06:33 AM\']1 VS 100 is a terrific show and is what the main game of Winning Lines should have always been.  [/quote] How exactly would that go? I think the British version of the game would have been an improvement (Well, anything would be an improvement over six fastest finger first questions)

How many people are going to cry Millionaire-clone?

Because it has four-option questions and piles of money? Just because "Millionaire" was the first to offer $1,000,000 in a Q/A show doesn't mean that every big money quiz show is going to be a clone of it.

[Craig Karlberg]

Boy, 2006 certainly is the year of the game show "turnaround".  Not only DoND is a hit, but now it looks like we'll se 1 vs. 100(1/100 is a better looking title to me anyway) & maybe Take It Or Leave It(That's The Question).

The bailout option here sure reeks of Millionaire in that sense, but it also adds strategy.  It depends how long a good player can outlast 100 audience members over a series of questions especially if there are a few "stalwart" members keeping him/her from winning it all.  Just like DoND, there's also timing involved(Does the player have the patience to continue on or will s/he wilt under pressure?).  I wouldn't mind seeing this in place of DoND during the summer, but if it becomes a hit, then what?

[Brig Bother]

[quote name=\'Gus\' post=\'117095\' date=\'Apr 27 2006, 02:23 AM\']
On a slightly unrelated note, I had always thought that a better title for an English-language version of the game than the literally-translated "1 vs 100" would be "1-on-100", as a play off the phrase "one-on-one".
[/quote]

I see what you've done with it, but that doesn't sit right with me at all.

I prefer "One Against One Hundred", which I believe is the literal translation anyway.

[BrandonFG]

I'd honestly prefer 100-to-1, kind of a play on words (100:1).

[Clay Zambo]

[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'117065\' date=\'Apr 26 2006, 04:27 PM\']
And, looking farther into the crystal Storm Team 8 Skymax Doppler 8-Ball, ...[/quote]

Does your boss know you're using office technology for non-meterological purposes?

[Clay Zambo]

Very interesting, this.  Though I wish I'd read the thread from the beginning and noticed the English description of the rules before trying to suss it out from watching streaming video.

(Why I am watching streaming video of a Dutch game show--in Dutch!--rather than, say, trying to change the face of the American Musical Theatre is a question worth many, many Euros.)

It's a gorgeous production.  The scoring system is indeed rather complicated.  I think the worst part, for me, is that I've been tinkering with a player-vs-100-challengers format...I guess there's no point in thinking about that any more.

Caroline Tensen: Ellen DeGeneris in 10 years?

[Matt Ottinger]

[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'117084\' date=\'Apr 26 2006, 07:39 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'117059\' date=\'Apr 26 2006, 12:03 PM\']Criminey sakes, how many different packagers have come up with a rip-off of The $64,000 Question?[/quote]I don't get it. The whole point of most game shows is risking what you have to win more. Let's Make a Deal, Hollywood Showdown, Sale of the Century, The Joker's Wild (originally, and I thought the Joker's Jackpot was very clever).[/quote]
Actually, the idea of risking money you've already won for the chance at even more is a relatively unusual model for game shows to follow, which is one of the many things that made Millionaire appear so novel when it first arrived.  I don't think this one is a "rip-off" of The $64,000 Question any more than shows with returning champions are a "rip-off" of Winner Take All.  Still, thre's no doubt people will be comparing this show to Millionaire, and Chris just pointed out that the real progenitor of these sorts of formats is even older.  (The fact that the $64K format harkens back to radio days and Take It Or Leave It is less relevant because the TV show introduced the monster payouts.)

[chris319]

"Most" TV game shows play a match to a finish and, if there is a returning champion, he or she plays until defeated. I didn't see where Ken Jennings was risking his prior winnings to continue playing, nor was he afforded the opportunity to stop playing, take his money and go home. I never saw a WML? contestant get up from the desk and say, "Thanks, Mr. Daly, $20 is enough for me. I'm leaving."

The way this show was originally described was "answer questions for money" and "the player can choose to quit the game and go home with his winnings". That describes the crux of The $64,000 Question and WWTBAM. I will go back and reread this thread to see if there's more to this game that sets it apart from those shows.

(MOMENTS LATER)

I went back and read the post describing the rules, and yes, it's The Better Sex end game. I was tinkering with an idea along these lines back in 2000 and ultimately discarded it as lacking suspense. It certainly didn't do The Better Sex any good.

Footnote: In the G-T offices there used to be a videotape of Bobby Sherman playing The Better Sex end game with the banana section of a Tattletales audience, as a trial run of The Better Sex end game.

[uncamark]

Here's Variety's article on the show (which supposedly NBC greenlit the same day Endemol pitched it to them):

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117942076?cs=1&s=h&p=0

It does mention that the show could have a summer start--it's very likely that Scott St. John could keep the "DOND" staff and use them for "1 vs. 100."  If it clicks, he'll have to move the staff around.  If it doesn't, they still have a job on "DOND" and they aren't laid off for the summer.

I know, wishful thinking.

[NickS]

So my question is -- what other game formats does endemol have for Goldberg to spear?