The Game Show FANS 50 Greatest List

[TimK2003]

[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'127056\' date=\'Aug 11 2006, 10:29 AM\']
Hey, it's your list, but i'm not sure i agree with lumping hs/ss with tattletales, and especially WWW with challengers...yes, they were revivals, but there were enough rule differences that made them quite different.... I liked WWW a LOT more than Challengers....
[/quote]

I concur with the lumping together of HS/SS and TT as a no-no.  The majority of HS/SS players were civilians, while TT was all celebs.  

that said, I almost want to propose separation of some "Celebrity _________" shows from their original civilian versions.  

Cases in point, "Celebrity Millionaire" pretty much was unlimited "ask-the audience" questions up to the $32K level -- the audience being the rest of the celebs in the fastest finger seats.   And in Celebrity J!, you could bet and lose big in the main game finishing in the hole, yet still getting money to play with in Final J!".

 

But again, it's your list.

[Matt Ottinger]

[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'127424\' date=\'Aug 14 2006, 09:03 PM\']
I concur with the lumping together of HS/SS and TT as a no-no.  The majority of HS/SS players were civilians, while TT was all celebs.  [/quote]
This, to the best of my knowledge, is not true.

[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'127424\' date=\'Aug 14 2006, 09:03 PM\']
that said, I almost want to propose separation of some "Celebrity _________" shows from their original civilian versions.  [/quote]
There wouldn't be much point to that.  I believe I'm safe in saying that most people consider the 'celebrity' versions of regular-contestant shows to be vastly inferior to the originals.  Since Celebrity Jeopardy or Celebrity Hot Potato would have no chance of making the Top 50 (or probably even the Top 100), separating them just adds needless confusion.

In general, if you like a game, lumping it together with its revivals and remakes and, yes, celebrity versions is only going to help your cause.  If you feel that a show was diminished by such moves, you should adjust your personal list accodingly.

[TimK2003]

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'127425\' date=\'Aug 14 2006, 08:17 PM\']
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'127424\' date=\'Aug 14 2006, 09:03 PM\']
I concur with the lumping together of HS/SS and TT as a no-no.  The majority of HS/SS players were civilians, while TT was all celebs.  [/quote]
This, to the best of my knowledge, is not true.
[/quote]

Mea Culpa on the HS/SS if that is the case.  I was basing my comparison of the one B&W ep on the trading circuit where the only celebs on the show were M/M Gene Rayburn -- the rest were civilians.

I do remember hearing that the show switched to all celebs somewhere in the run, but I still thought the majority of the eps were like the Rayburn ep. -- a civilian/celebrity mix.

BTW Matt, keep an eye out for Emilie Voss (very easy on the eyes).  She's leaving our station and heading up to Lansing this week to work at the NBC affiliate.

[rialtus]

I'm just waiting for someone to ask if The Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour would be considered a potential double duplication on the list...  *smirk*

[Chuck Sutton]

[quote name=\'rialtus\' post=\'127447\' date=\'Aug 15 2006, 12:45 AM\']
I'm just waiting for someone to ask if The Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour would be considered a potential double duplication on the list...  *smirk*
[/quote]


Would anyone even admit to considering it?

[Dbacksfan12]

[quote name=\'Chuck Sutton\' post=\'127463\' date=\'Aug 15 2006, 06:53 AM\']
Would anyone even admit to considering it?
[/quote]
Better than Studs, now isn't it?

[cweaver]

[quote name=\'rialtus\' post=\'127447\' date=\'Aug 14 2006, 11:45 PM\']
I'm just waiting for someone to ask if The Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour would be considered a potential double duplication on the list...  *smirk*
[/quote]

Of course anyone who mentioned both The Hollywood Squares and Match Game would have this one covered anyway I think.

[ITSBRY]

[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'127317\' date=\'Aug 14 2006, 07:29 AM\']
Just to bump this up and remind people...

I did my list over the weekend, and lemme tell ya it wasn't easy -
[/quote]

You ain't kiddin! After eliminating versions and revivals, just coming up with 50 different shows that I've actually SEEN was a challenge. I didn't feel it was fair to include something that I had no opinion whatsoever on.

I was able to come up with 51 "greatest" (one was 'iffy', so I added an extra just in case). I did have to include one show that I personally didn't think deserved a spot to reach 50 though.

Thank goodness for Page O' Clips and the wonderful folks who've let me take a look at some of the gems in their personal collections...otherwise, my list would have been very small.

[ITSBRY]

[quote name=\'Chuck Sutton\' post=\'127463\' date=\'Aug 15 2006, 07:53 AM\']
[quote name=\'rialtus\' post=\'127447\' date=\'Aug 15 2006, 12:45 AM\']
I'm just waiting for someone to ask if The Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour would be considered a potential double duplication on the list...  *smirk*
[/quote]

Would anyone even admit to considering it?
[/quote]
I'll admit to it. Having seen 4 or 5 episodes now, I am totally fascinated with this show. Yes, there were some things about it that didn't work, but it wasn't horribly broken. The idea was a good one...it's just the execution that was a bit 'off'.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'ITSBRY\' post=\'127475\' date=\'Aug 15 2006, 07:37 AM\']
I'll admit to it. Having seen 4 or 5 episodes now, I am totally fascinated with this show.
[/quote]
Considering you were the one who took me to task when I suggested watching more than one episode before passing judgement, I find this statement terribly amusing.

[Don Howard]

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'127425\' date=\'Aug 14 2006, 09:17 PM\']
There wouldn't be much point to that.  I believe I'm safe in saying that most people consider the 'celebrity' versions of regular-contestant shows to be vastly inferior to the originals.[/quote]
For the record, my vote for Bullseye was not for Celebrity Bullseye.

[Jimmy Owen]

Would the votes for "Snap Judgment" be rolled into "Password" as the shows had the same format for a portion of SJ's run, or....

I know. I'm not helping.

[uncamark]

[quote name=\'ITSBRY\' post=\'127475\' date=\'Aug 15 2006, 09:37 AM\']
[quote name=\'Chuck Sutton\' post=\'127463\' date=\'Aug 15 2006, 07:53 AM\']
[quote name=\'rialtus\' post=\'127447\' date=\'Aug 15 2006, 12:45 AM\']
I'm just waiting for someone to ask if The Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour would be considered a potential double duplication on the list...  *smirk*
[/quote]

Would anyone even admit to considering it?
[/quote]
I'll admit to it. Having seen 4 or 5 episodes now, I am totally fascinated with this show. Yes, there were some things about it that didn't work, but it wasn't horribly broken. The idea was a good one...it's just the execution that was a bit 'off'.
[/quote]

The problem was that it always sounded more like some network exec's idea of a great show than a producer's.  Knowing the fact that the "Squares" format was alien to Goodson and his distaste for what made "Squares" work, I wouldn't have even suggested it to him.  Seems to me that anyone who worked for Goodson like Jake Tauber would've never even bothered (unless it was someone other than Tauber's idea).

[ITSBRY]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'127480\' date=\'Aug 15 2006, 11:14 AM\']
Considering you were the one who took me to task when I suggested watching more than one episode before passing judgement, I find this statement terribly amusing.
[/quote]
First of all...what I said above was no different than what I had originally said about this show. In that thread, I did concede that you were right and that perhaps I shouldn't make assumptions based on one show.

I have seen more episodes since and I still contend that Bauman was part of the "what didn't work". Criticisms of Bauman aside, I have been fascinated by the show since the first episode I saw. After seeing more, I still feel the same way. Simply put, I feel like the show could have been much better with a great host on the HS end.

Second...after re-reading that old post, I'm embarassed at the tone in my response to you. I did over-react and I'm sorry for being so rude. Musta been a bad day.

[SRIV94]

[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'127486\' date=\'Aug 15 2006, 10:52 AM\']
Would the votes for "Snap Judgment" be rolled into "Password" as the shows had the same format for a portion of SJ's run, or....

I know. I'm not helping.
[/quote]
Only if we can roll votes for $1.98 into GONG.  :-D

/No, $1.98 didn't make my list.  Nor should it have.

Doug