Author Topic: Wheel of Fortune wheel configurations (Read 33663 times)

jbrocato · « **Reply #15 on:** July 04, 2007, 09:09:14 PM »

[quote name=\'wheelloon\' post=\'156553\' date=\'Jul 2 2007, 06:54 PM\']
[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'156530\' date=\'Jul 2 2007, 02:00 PM\']On another note, isn't it about time that the configuration of the current Wheel is modified? Game show fandom arguments ("No one except YOU notices that! tee hee) aside, why haven't the wedges been changed for so long? Wouldn't hurt to see a $650 or $850 space out there, or more spaces >$1000.
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2 reasons:

1: It'll cost money (though, I don't think it'll be a budget breaker, nevertheless...)

2: Are the general WOF viewers complaining? Not at all, only the hardcore pro-WOF GS fans and the general Wheel loons (heh), would be inclined to say anything.

However, it is my hope that for their 25th syndie anniversary, Friedman and the gang will change up the configs a bit. This doesn't necessarily mean increasing the budget, for those that would be concerned, but I, for example, wouldn't mind seeing the reemergence of the 1500 space on the Wheel, especially in Round 4, possibly even a 2k or 2500 space instead. Also, any way to reduce the bevy of 300 dollar spaces (maybe with an additional underused 350, 450, 550, or 700, as opposed to 650 or 850) would be nice.

However, I'm not holding my breath...
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I agree that there should be $1000 or $1500, but I also believe there should be amounts less than the cost of a vowel. Bring back $150, $100, even $50, or my personal favorite $175. I felt the problem with the Goen wheel wasn't the presence of $50 and $75, but that the entire wheel was cheap. There's nothing wrong with a few low numbers, offset by a couple of raised amounts.

John Brocato

Kevin Prather · « **Reply #16 on:** July 04, 2007, 09:19:19 PM »

I personally liked the way they did the wheel in the early 90s.

Start off with a TDV of $1,000.
2nd round, replace $1,000 with $2,500. Everything else stays sub-$1,000.
Round 3, second half of the game. New wheel with bigger amounts. $3,500 shows up and $1,000 comes back.
Finally, round 4. $5,000 makes its appearance with $1,500 bringing up the rear.

The point is to have enough lower spaces ($150, $200, etc) that you can afford to have two or three sizable spaces. This way, $900 isn't second place to $5,000.

tvmitch · « **Reply #17 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:53:08 AM »

Maybe we'll see an all-video wheel in he not-too-distant future. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility...would make changing configurations, etc. very cheap.

clemon79 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 05, 2007, 11:47:17 AM »

[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'156697\' date=\'Jul 5 2007, 07:53 AM\']
Maybe we'll see an all-video wheel in he not-too-distant future. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility...would make changing configurations, etc. very cheap.
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I would suggest that the INCREDIBLE added expense (and make no mistake, it would be VERY expensive) would be extremely unlikely to make up for the way they do it now, which isn't expensive at all.

I will also try one more time to get through to the fanb0is: Joe Sixpack doesn't notice this AT ALL. Joe Sixpack sees the colorful spinning wheel and says "ooooh, shiny!" That's it. So don't hold your breath on it changing.

J.R. · « **Reply #19 on:** July 05, 2007, 01:39:15 PM »

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'156703\' date=\'Jul 5 2007, 10:47 AM\']
I will also try one more time to get through to the ~~fanb0is~~ fanb0iz: Joe Sixpack doesn't notice this AT ALL. Joe Sixpack sees the colorful spinning wheel and says "ooooh, shiny!" That's it. So don't hold your breath on it changing.
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Fixed. I don't want you to get in trouble with the moderators! :-)

clemon79 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 05, 2007, 01:52:36 PM »

[quote name=\'JRaygor\' post=\'156724\' date=\'Jul 5 2007, 10:39 AM\']
~~fanb0is~~ fanb0iz
Fixed. I don't want you to get in trouble with the moderators! :-)
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Frankly, that annoys the hell out of me. If I want to spell it "fanb0is", that's how I will spell it. The mods can bloody well deal.

I know you're just trying to fun a little, Joe, so it's not personal in the least, but I did find that irksome.

tpirfan28 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 05, 2007, 03:17:18 PM »

I'm totally in favor of a greater stair step up to higher values on the wheel. If they want to keep the current pattern of 2500-3500-3500-5000 as top dollar in the rounds, then I propose the following:

- Round 1: $2,500 top with $1,000 second value
- Round 2: $3,500 top with $1,500 second value
- Round 3: $3,500 top with $1,500 second value, plus $1,000 Mystery Wedges
- Round 4: $5,000 top with $2,000 second value and $1,000 third value
- Rounds 5+: $5,000 top with $2,500 second value and $1,000 third value

It adds a little more money, but nothing too severe.

BrandonFG · « **Reply #22 on:** July 05, 2007, 03:29:11 PM »

[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'156697\' date=\'Jul 5 2007, 10:53 AM\']
Maybe we'll see an all-video wheel in he not-too-distant future. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility...would make changing configurations, etc. very cheap.
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I had that thought one time, along with a video wall Hollywood Squares, similar to what Scattergories or Small Talk did. The Squares thing was my biggest fear prior to the '98 version. I think in both cases, the producers realize just how crappy that would look to the viewers.

Some things can be made easier with new technology, i.e. monitors instead of trilons (Pyramid, Win Ben Stein's Money, Debt), or the new puzzle board. The virtual wheel would just look BAD. I mean, leave a horrible aftertaste bad.

clemon79 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 05, 2007, 03:45:03 PM »

[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'156734\' date=\'Jul 5 2007, 12:17 PM\']
It adds a little more money, but nothing too severe.
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But here's the thing: does adding that money (and therefore that expense) really improve the show, in the eyes of 99% of their viewers? Would they even NOTICE it? No. So why do it?

Spending money in ways in which you receive no tangible benefit is a good way to go out of business.

/Unless you're Micros&#@%^%^@&^^&^@!@!@NO CARRIER

MSTieScott · « **Reply #24 on:** July 05, 2007, 07:23:20 PM »

I do think that slapping a $1,500 space on the wheel somewhere opposite the $5,000 would be noticed by the viewers -- the four-digit number sounds more impressive, and if there are even two of a letter in the puzzle, it's worth $3,000 (which is an impressive enough number).

But they only need to do it for the fourth round. In the first three rounds, the wheel is littered with, at various times, $10,000, a nice trip, a Jackpot space, and mystery wedges. There are already large values other than the top dollar value in those rounds. By the fourth round, though, the wheel is naked (except for maybe the trip), so they need something to keep the $5,000 from being the only worthwhile value.

--
Scott Robinson

Robert Hutchinson · « **Reply #25 on:** July 05, 2007, 07:30:49 PM »

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'156740\' date=\'Jul 5 2007, 03:45 PM\']But here's the thing: does adding that money (and therefore that expense) really improve the show, in the eyes of 99% of their viewers? Would they even NOTICE it? No. So why do it?[/quote]
Did making the Jackpot space count as a $500 space (increasing expense) really improve the show etc.?

Occasionally, a game show will make a change, even one that increases their budget a bit, just for the sake of a new game wrinkle, or aesthetics (the Jackpot space before being the one space that could give a player nothing despite getting a consonant in the puzzle). Considering that, as well as the recent desire of the producers to have fewer speed-up rounds seem pointless (adding $1000 to the spun amount) ... I just don't think it can be dismissed with the Joe Sixpack argument.

clemon79 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 05, 2007, 07:31:13 PM »

[quote name=\'MSTieScott\' post=\'156749\' date=\'Jul 5 2007, 04:23 PM\']
I do think that slapping a $1,500 space on the wheel somewhere opposite the $5,000 would be noticed by the viewers
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"noticed by the viewers" <> "attract a bigger audience."

Steve McClellan · « **Reply #27 on:** July 05, 2007, 10:31:50 PM »

[quote name=\'MSTieScott\' date=\'Jul 5 2007, 04:23 PM\']By the fourth round, though, the wheel is naked (except for maybe the trip)[/quote]
Nope, the trip gets stripped after round 3. The only movable spaces on the wheel in round 4 and beyond are the $5,000 space, the second Bankrupt (unless round 4 starts as a speed-up), and the Wild Card if still present.

Steve Gavazzi · « **Reply #28 on:** July 05, 2007, 11:15:09 PM »

[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' post=\'156760\' date=\'Jul 5 2007, 10:31 PM\']
[quote name=\'MSTieScott\' date=\'Jul 5 2007, 04:23 PM\']By the fourth round, though, the wheel is naked (except for maybe the trip)[/quote]
Nope, the trip gets stripped after round 3.[/quote]

Really? When did they start doing that?

I guess even I didn't realize how little attention I pay to Wheel these days.

Steve McClellan · « **Reply #29 on:** July 05, 2007, 11:48:55 PM »

[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Jul 5 2007, 08:15 PM\'] [quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' post=\'156760\' date=\'Jul 5 2007, 10:31 PM\']
Nope, the trip gets stripped after round 3.[/quote]

Really? When did they start doing that?

I guess even I didn't realize how little attention I pay to Wheel these days. [/quote]
I'm nearly certain they've been doing it that way for at least the past two seasons, when I started paying attention again (being in the contestant pool tends to have that effect).