Author Topic: How's your fall schedule stacking up? (Read 82702 times)

Ian Wallis · « **Reply #75 on:** August 19, 2007, 12:05:38 PM »

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Who among us remembers going to the library and looking at "Broadcasting & Cable" for the syndicated show ads with all the affiliates listed on them? Sigh. I've got some old issues around here somewhere with those ads. Is that even available nowadays at "finer newsstands"? Only place I ever bought it was "The News Room" on Pennsylvania Ave. in DC.

I used to see ads on my local stations well in advance of the premieres stating "new this fall", and they'd show clips of the shows. In the '70s and '80s I always seemed to know which game shows we'd be getting. Stations don't seem to do that for syndicated shows much anymore.

Ian Wallis · « **Reply #76 on:** August 19, 2007, 12:10:27 PM »

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I'll pick up a Fall Preview TV Guide next month for novelty's sake (this will make 40 years of consecutive Fall Previews in my collection), but it won't replace the joy of heading to the store on a Monday to buy the Fall Preview, admiring the artwork on the cover (back when they had it), and then sitting down to see how syndication had affected your local and adjacent markets. And the ads for new shows with station logos on them... and the staples in the middle... sigh.

I'll get it too - the only Fall Previews I'm missing are '53 and '54. Been outbid a few times on e-bay for them...but I'm sure I'll get them eventually!

While I loved the Fall Previews from the '70s and '80s (as they were pretty detailed when it came to new games), sometimes shows would be in syndication that wouldn't be listed in TVGuide. I can think of both runs of Celebrity Sweepstakes as examples. Niether was carried in my area and I never even knew about them until I got an out-of-town guide later that year.

Even the Fall Previews of the last few years of the digest-size edition were better than what they're putting out now...but it's fun to look back on the old issues!

aaron sica · « **Reply #77 on:** August 19, 2007, 12:55:56 PM »

[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'161240\' date=\'Aug 19 2007, 12:10 PM\']
While I loved the Fall Previews from the '70s and '80s (as they were pretty detailed when it came to new games), sometimes shows would be in syndication that wouldn't be listed in TVGuide. I can think of both runs of Celebrity Sweepstakes as examples. Niether was carried in my area and I never even knew about them until I got an out-of-town guide later that year.
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I just happen to have my 1983 Fall Preview sitting right by the computer, and in looking at the Syndication section, in the paragraph which starts off "For those who like to play games", it mentions Love Connection, The Pop 'n Rocker Game, and Star Search. No mention is made at all of Wheel, but then again in the fall of 1983 it started with a whimper, AFAIK. It wasn't until 1984 that it *really* started taking off. I remember it arriving on WNEP in Scranton amidst a lot of advertising around the time the Olympics started that summer, and in the fall, WHP in Harrisburg made it a part of its regular schedule. It's been their M-F 7pm show ever since (in Scranton, it moved on to WYOU a few years later and since 1992, WBRE has been the WoF/J! home).

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #78 on:** August 19, 2007, 04:35:14 PM »

There used to be a bunch of local display ads for stations in TVG pre-Murdoch due to a reciprocal agreement between the station and TVG where TVG would get spots on the station in exchange for display ads in the listings. That is why you would see at least one ad per station in every issue, usually an ad for non-network programming and lots of game shows. After News Corp. took over around 89 or so, that practice ended.

Murdoch has put the mag on the selling block, so hopefully a new owner can make TVG useful again.

mcsittel · « **Reply #79 on:** August 19, 2007, 05:23:42 PM »

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There used to be a bunch of local display ads for stations in TVG pre-Murdoch due to a reciprocal agreement between the station and TVG where TVG would get spots on the station in exchange for display ads in the listings. That is why you would see at least one ad per station in every issue, usually an ad for non-network programming and lots of game shows. After News Corp. took over around 89 or so, that practice ended.

Murdoch has put the mag on the selling block, so hopefully a new owner can make TVG useful again.
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And don't forget the local newspapers who have dropped their weekly TV magazines. If you're without PC, good luck on figuring out the schedule. And a secondary gripe to papers who put the TV magazine in a non-standard day, like Wednesday!? It's easier now to go to 7-Eleven and flip through the papers and see who has the magazine rather than finding the one bought off the rack with 2 pounds in quarters doesn't.

Omaha has the magazine on Sunday, but you can buy the paper in western Nebraska too and get the same Omaha listings... some use that is. You don't see much of the tailored listings any more. I recall when the Charlotte (NC) Observer had "Mountains" and "Piedmont" TV magazine editions for their readers in Asheville vs. say, Myrtle Beach SC. It was almost *better* than TV Guide in the 80s (save for the local ads).

There are still some exceptions: Casper Star-Tribune in Wyoming lists stuff like Billings MT in it. Those are fun, but it's so rare to get any out-of-market stuff even if the paper pushes for statewide coverage. I guess it's not important to most readers anymore.

1984Gameshowsfan · « **Reply #80 on:** August 19, 2007, 06:07:00 PM »

mcsittel, if you can find any of the magazines with those ads in them is there any way you can put them up on your website or anything like that? BTW up in my neck of the woods(Seattle-Tacoma) unles anything changes here's the fall schedule for syndicated game shows:
Millionaire: 7-8 PM on KONG 16
Family Feud: 11AM-12PM on MYQ2 KMYQ
Wheel and Jeopardy! back to back from 7-8 PM on KOMO 4 (it's been that way since at least 1986)
Temptation: either KCPQ or KMYQ
Crosswords: either KING 5 or KONG 16, no clue about the time slot though however someone e-mailed me from KING 5 a few months ago and said that it would be carried from 6-7 PM.

BrandonFG · « **Reply #81 on:** August 19, 2007, 06:29:58 PM »

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Crosswords: either KING 5 or KONG 16, no clue about the time slot though however someone e-mailed me from KING 5 a few months ago and said that it would be carried from 6-7 PM.
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I think Lemon said it would air at 7:30, I just can't remember what channel. Doesn't KING air "Evening Magazine" at that time?

clemon79 · « **Reply #82 on:** August 19, 2007, 06:37:09 PM »

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I think Lemon said it would air at 7:30, I just can't remember what channel. Doesn't KING air "Evening Magazine" at that time?
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Evening's at 7:00, I think. Yeah, I just looked, that's right. "Inside Edition" is going to be the big loser here. (which means the big winner will be the home viewing audience.)

This is how it went down when KING carried H2, as well.

Also, Temptation is going to be on KCPQ...I just didn't feel like correcting the post of someone being so authoritative while at the same time being so painfully under/misinformed. (As in, KING is NOT going to bump their 6:00P news, genius.)

mcsittel · « **Reply #83 on:** August 19, 2007, 07:28:16 PM »

[quote name=\'1984Gameshowsfan\' post=\'161297\' date=\'Aug 19 2007, 05:07 PM\']
mcsittel, if you can find any of the magazines with those ads in them is there any way you can put them up on your website or anything like that?
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I've limited my site to logos from TV Guide. Certainly there are/were other sources for logos, but the ones I feature come from my personal collection of 2,500+ TV Guides. My site with edition information and logos: http://www.mcsittel.com/html/tv_guide.html

I didn't save many of those old newspaper listings. But I do recall them well. Since there aren't TV Guide editions to collect anymore, newspaper magazines are about all that's left.

Ian Wallis · « **Reply #84 on:** August 19, 2007, 08:07:10 PM »

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I just happen to have my 1983 Fall Preview sitting right by the computer, and in looking at the Syndication section, in the paragraph which starts off "For those who like to play games", it mentions Love Connection, The Pop 'n Rocker Game, and Star Search. No mention is made at all of Wheel, but then again in the fall of 1983 it started with a whimper, AFAIK. It wasn't until 1984 that it *really* started taking off.

You raise a good point. Maybe TVGuide decided only to list those syndicated games which were going to be seen on the most stations. The case I mentioned, Celebrity Sweepstakes, and even Wheel of Fortune, weren't that heavily carried back then. Wheel wasn't even expected to be a hit - it caught everyone by surprise.

Still, in the '76 preview, Break the Bank wasn't listed, but looking at out-of-town issues for that period, that was carried in quite a number of cities.

Chelsea Thrasher · « **Reply #85 on:** August 22, 2007, 01:13:53 AM »

Nashville (Syndication):
Crosswords: FOX-WZTV: 12 PM CT
Who Wants to Be A Millionaire: (Primary) MyTV-WUXP: 5:30 PM CT. (Secondary) FOX-WZTV: 12:30 PM CT
Family Feud: (Primary) FOX-WZTV: 1:30 PM CT. (Secondary) FOX-WZTV: 1:00 PM CT.
Temptation: MyTV-WUXP: 5:00 PM CT
Jeopardy!: MyTV-WUXP: 6:00 PM CT
Wheel of Fortune: ABC-WKRN: 6:30 PM CT

TimK2003 · « **Reply #86 on:** August 23, 2007, 10:15:05 AM »

Western Colorado checking in (All Times Mountain):

9:00AM -- The Price Is Right (we run the East Coast Feed) -- KREX/Channel 5 (CBS)

10:00AM -- Temptation -- KKCO-DT2 (CW)

11:00AM -- Family Feud (First Run) -- KREX/Channel 5

11:30AM -- Crosswords -- KREX/Channel 5

4:30PM -- Family Feud (Second Run) -- KFQX/Channel 4 (FOX)

5:00PM -- Crosswords -- KFQX/Channel 4

6:00PM -- Millionaire -- KREX/Channel 5

6:00PM -- Jeopardy -- KKCO/Channel 11 (NBC)

6:30PM -- Millionaire -- KREX/Channel 5

6:30PM -- Wheel of Fortune -- KKCO/Channel 11

Have not heard anything regarding Temptation. I know that our trio of stations passed on the show. KJCT (ABC) is the only commercial open-air station that doesn't run a single non-network game show.

scottua1 · « **Reply #87 on:** August 23, 2007, 11:38:25 PM »

Finally got Albany, N.Y.'s complete syndie line-up.

Wheel and Jeopardy!, of course, stay where they are on WTEN 7-8pm (w/ J!'s 2nd run remaining at 12:30pm).
Millionaire moves from 10am to a double-run 2-3pm on WNYT, replacing Passions.
Feud moves from 10:30 to 11am on WNYT, leading into The Insider starring everyone's favorite guy
The 2 newbies, Crosswords and Temptation, will air back-to-back at 10/10:30am, respectively, on WTEN, knocking Martha off the channel (no double-run for either).

So all 6 syndie games will be split between 2 affiliates.

urbanpreppie05 · « **Reply #88 on:** August 24, 2007, 04:20:16 PM »

And Pittsburgh-

WBGN Ind 59
Temptation 6-7 p.m.
Which, thanks to Comcast's infinite wisdom of NOT carrying Indy stations for an additional CBS and NBC stations, I don't get...argh.

WPXI NBC 11
Family Feud- 12:30 p.m. (Second run was dropped for Crosswords)
Crosswords- 1:30 p.m.
Wheel and J!- 7-8 p.m.
Millionaire- 1:00 p.m.

KDKA CBS 2
Drew Carey's Price is Right- 11 a.m.

Joe Mello · « **Reply #89 on:** August 24, 2007, 05:24:15 PM »

[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' post=\'161899\' date=\'Aug 24 2007, 04:20 PM\']
WBGN Ind 59
Temptation 6-7 p.m.
Which, thanks to Comcast's infinite wisdom of NOT carrying Indy stations for an additional CBS and NBC stations, I don't get...argh.[/quote]
Funny. I have it on my Shadyside/Oakland cable under channel 3. Where in Pittsburgh are you?

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