What if...?

[GS Warehouse]

[quote name=\'Sodboy13\' post=\'164069\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 02:57 PM\']
[quote name=\'MSTieScott\' post=\'164068\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 01:52 PM\']
... There are many other game show formats that can be "borrowed," several of which are even owned by Fremantle.[/quote]Okay, so, hear me out on this: we set up a row of 7 playing cards...[/quote]
...and determine which one is telling the truth without going over by using only one-word clues.

[dzinkin]

[quote name=\'Jackpotman800\' post=\'164074\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 03:50 PM\']
In a word... 100%.
[/quote]
That's three words.

[tpirfan28]

[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' post=\'164078\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 03:58 PM\']
[quote name=\'Sodboy13\' post=\'164069\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 02:57 PM\']
[quote name=\'MSTieScott\' post=\'164068\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 01:52 PM\']
... There are many other game show formats that can be "borrowed," several of which are even owned by Fremantle.[/quote]Okay, so, hear me out on this: we set up a row of 7 playing cards...[/quote]
...and determine which one is telling the truth without going over by using only one-word clues.
[/quote]...Here's a Clip Chip to help you.

/Clip Chips: Worst thing since unsliced bread.
//EDIT: even worse when you can't spell the damn thing right
///EDIT2: and blow your own joke (see below)
////three edits later I get them right

[Sodboy13]

[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'164082\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 03:01 PM\']
/Chip Clips: Worst thing since unsliced bread.
[/quote]

I dunno... they keep my Fritos rather fresh.

Clip Chips, however, those things suck the chrome off a fender.

[TimK2003]

[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'164066\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 02:43 PM\']
If they're calling it "Temptation," shouldn't the Instant Bargains be somewhat tempting? He's trying to sway them with 100 lousy bucks![/quote]

Well at least he's offering $100 USDs instead of $100 TDs -- you can't take home Temptation Dollars!  

Giving up $x.xx and possibly the lead is not a bad deal when you consider that win or lose, you're going home with some cash & prizes.

[jalman]

[quote name=\'Jackpotman800\' post=\'164074\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 03:50 PM\']
In a word... 100%.
[/quote]
Fremantle could pick a better format, dude.  The thought of having Rossi playing the role of Casey Kasem is more frightening than the Rossi we have now.

[Joe Mello]

Getting back to the original question, I think the Aussie version has some issues, too.  I'm not that sold on the Vault as a good replacement for Instant Cash and there's something about their endgame that leaves something to be desired.  I'm also not really sure about what the big difference is between 3 or 4 more questions and a 20-second Sprint Round.

I can probably whip up a format myself, if people so desire to see it.

/Sidenote: Temptation has about 20-25 Speed Round questions per show.  Excluding Fame Games, Perry's $ale had about 30-35.

[BrandonFG]

[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'164109\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 07:57 PM\']
I'm also not really sure about what the big difference is between 3 or 4 more questions and a 20-second Sprint Round.[/quote]
Timing. Go ahead and spread four questions out, give Rossi time to even explain the background of some questions, instead of just breezing through everything.

With a regular question, including explanations and banter, you make about :15-20.

[TLEberle]

[quote name=\'Jackpotman800\' post=\'164074\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 12:50 PM\']In a word... 100%.[/quote]Congratulations, you've found the one format that would actually make Temptation less interesting.

It's not so much the incongruous nature of the added games that I find bothersome, it's their choice of material. They've made their bed, and I won't be sleeping in it. "Meat or Cheese" works on Remote Control or You Don't Know Jack because they're both parodies. It's hard to give off the air of a serious game show when you have people bleating out "Meat!" or "Cheese!" every two seconds.

[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'164109\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 04:57 PM\']Getting back to the original question, I think the Aussie version has some issues, too.  [/quote] I'm not surprised one bit.

I'm not that sold on the Vault as a good replacement for Instant Cash

Why not? I think it fixes both problems that Instant Cash had, making the dilemma interesting every single night. Jackpot too low? Then no one plays. Too big a lead? Don't even think about trying for it. A static $15 to play, and a chance at a known quantity of money makes it work.

and there's something about their endgame that leaves something to be desired.  

How so? I don't see anything wrong with it.

I'm also not really sure about what the big difference is between 3 or 4 more questions and a 20-second Sprint Round.

To break up the pacing a bit?

[BMaurice06]

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'164053\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 01:39 PM\']
-Open the show, have Rossi greet the contestants. (1:00)
-Keep the :30 speed round to warm the contestants up. (:30)
-Go ahead with the first Instant Bargain. (1:00)
-Formally meet the contestants. (:45)
-I then throw in six to eight questions, not timed, (1:30)
-Then the Fame Game, in its current format, except the contestant picks from the board from one of six faces. Behind three are dollar amounts ($5/10/15), two decent prizes, and a cash amount between $200-750. (1:30)
[/quote]

Why can't we just meet the contestants at the start?  Since Jeopardy, too many game shows over the years have followed an annoying trend of going straight into the game saving the contestant interviews for later.  And I still like the original Fame Game format because it's more challenging to have the players listen to the "mini-biography" than to dumb it down with a spike-word format.

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'164053\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 01:39 PM\']
-Another six to eight questions (1:30)
-Instant Bargain (1:00)
-Either Dis or Dat or Knock Off...it's one or the other, but can be played on alternate days (1:15)
-Four to six questions (1:00)
-Instant Cash (1:00)
[/quote]

Sigh.  Okay, keep Knock Off if you want, but I stubbornly say it drags down what is supposed to be a fast-paced front game.

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'164053\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 01:39 PM\']
-Four to six questions (1:00)
-Fame Game II...add three more spaces, one of which is $20, another prize, and one BURGLAR, to take $5 from an opponent (1:30)
-:60 speed round (1:00)
-Post Mortem (:45)
[/quote]

This is a little better....

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'164053\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 01:39 PM\']
Bonus game: I guess Super Knock Off could work, and have Rolonda introduce the prizes that can be bought that day, thus saving a little more game time.
[/quote]

I'm still skeptical about how you're going to win me over with that, but if you say so...

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'164053\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 01:39 PM\']
And not to look too cheap, allow the departing contestants to keep their paltry money and perhaps a very small prize. For some reason, those American Express or Visa gift cards seem appropriate for this show.
[/quote]

I agree.

Overall, your changes are a tad better that what is currently on the air, though I still would cling on to the Aussie edition.  Keep working on it.

P.S. Out of curiosity, what exactly don't you like about the current Aussie version?

[TLEberle]

[quote name=\'BMaurice06\' post=\'164122\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 07:36 PM\']Overall, your changes are a tad better that what is currently on the air, though I still would cling on to the Aussie edition.  Keep working on it.[/quote]Good grief. I'll just say it so we can move on.

"They ought to have brought the show over straight from Australia, lock, stock and barrel."

Never mind budget, time or talent constraints. We've given our input. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean we have to keep going until we find something that pleases Your Majesty.

[dzinkin]

[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'164126\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 10:44 PM\']
[quote name=\'BMaurice06\' post=\'164122\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 07:36 PM\']Overall, your changes are a tad better that what is currently on the air, though I still would cling on to the Aussie edition.  Keep working on it.[/quote]Good grief. I'll just say it so we can move on.

"They ought to have brought the show over straight from Australia, lock, stock and barrel."
[/quote]
I'm sorry, that answer is incorrect.  We were looking for "They ought to have brought the show over straight from Australia, lock, stock and barrel except with Todd Newton and Brooke Burke in place of Ed Phillips and Livinia Nixon."  We also would have accepted "They ought to have copied the show verbatim from 1980s Australia lock, stock and barrel except with Todd Newton and Brooke Burke in place of Tony Barber and Alyce Platt."

[BrandonFG]

[quote name=\'BMaurice06\' post=\'164122\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 10:36 PM\']
Overall, your changes are a tad better that what is currently on the air, though I still would cling on to the Aussie edition.  Keep working on it.
[/quote]
Glad to have your Seal of Approval...but Lemon already approved in on page 3. :-P

P.S. Out of curiosity, what exactly don't you like about the current Aussie version?

1) Who said I didn't?  

2) I'd just like to see something more than a carbon copy of what the Aussies did or what was done nearly 25 years ago. It's the aspiring producer in me; I like creativity. There's a difference between making alterations and changing just for the sake of change.

[Joe Mello]

Re: Travis' stuff

When comparing the Vault to Instant Cash, there's hardly any risk.  If a "good" payout is anything with at least four digits, there is a substantially greater chance of getting that than something less than good.  Yes, I know that you're just as likely to get $8 as you are $8,000, but there doesn't seem to be as much potential for Buyer's Remorse.

What I don't like about the endgame is that it's non-discriminatory.  I do like it has risk (unlike the Winner's Board), but if I'm averaging $100 a day, I should be able to get more than someone averaging $60 a day.  Also, I'd rather have a bonus game that serves me now rather than possibly serve me later.

[tpirfan28]

[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'164109\' date=\'Sep 17 2007, 07:57 PM\']
/Sidenote: Temptation has about 20-25 Speed Round questions per show.  Excluding Fame Games, Perry's $ale had about 30-35.
[/quote]Half the timing comes with the fact that Rossi is no Jim in regards to reading the questions.

(Wouldn't kill him to show some emotion either.)