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gamed121683

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« on: January 19, 2008, 02:59:46 PM »
As most game show (and TV Trivia) lovers know, the longest running game show in American television is "The Price Is Right". Who's #2 on the list. I think it's either "Concentration" or "Wheel of Fortune" but I'm not too sure. Anyone here know?
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Robert Hutchinson

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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2008, 03:06:45 PM »
Even by the most generous accounting, Concentration was only continuously on the air for 20 years. Wheel has 25 continuous years in syndication, and 33 combined with daytime.
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2008, 03:12:07 PM »
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'175534\' date=\'Jan 19 2008, 02:06 PM\']
Even by the most generous accounting, Concentration was only continuously on the air for 20 years. Wheel has 25 continuous years in syndication, and 33 combined with daytime.
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Doesn't J! have that beat?  Just short of 11 years in its original format (March 1964 to January 1975), the five month revival (October 1978 to March 1979), and 24 continuous years in syndication.
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Robert Hutchinson

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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2008, 03:32:14 PM »
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'175535\' date=\'Jan 19 2008, 03:12 PM\']Doesn't J! have that beat?[/quote]
That's why I said "continuously". Going further, though, Wheel would (I believe) win back the 2nd place title if you count total number of seasons, counting daytime and syndicated separately.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2008, 03:36:07 PM »
That wasn't a continuous run though.  At least one version of Wheel has aired every single weekday (save for pre-emptions) since 1975.

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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2008, 04:20:02 PM »
[quote name=\'snowpeck\' post=\'175538\' date=\'Jan 19 2008, 02:36 PM\']
That wasn't a continuous run though.  At least one version of Wheel has aired every single weekday (save for pre-emptions) since 1975.
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At no point did the OP say the run had to be continuous.

And while I understand Robert's logic, you can't really say WoF's been on for 41 years if you combine the daytime run and nighttime run.  Then for TPiR you'd have to count James, Kennedy and Davidson's runs in with Barker, Carey and Cullen (plus the brief CBS Barker prime-time run).   By that count, TPiR's been on for 75 years.

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2008, 05:06:33 PM »
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'175541\' date=\'Jan 19 2008, 01:20 PM\']
TPiR's been on for 75 years.
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It just felt like it during those last 5 or so Barker years.
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Jimmy Owen

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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2008, 06:55:43 PM »
With Wof and TPIR there are many rerun weeks, so I assume you're counting those.  Most network games didn't have "seasons." It was 52 weeks of original production.
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2008, 07:00:27 PM »
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'175541\' date=\'Jan 19 2008, 04:20 PM\']
And while I understand Robert's logic, you can't really say WoF's been on for 41 years if you combine the daytime run and nighttime run.  Then for TPiR you'd have to count James, Kennedy and Davidson's runs in with Barker, Carey and Cullen (plus the brief CBS Barker prime-time run).   By that count, TPiR's been on for 75 years.[/quote]
More and more often, the terminology is getting blurred anyway.  I just heard that Survivor is about to start its seventeenth season.  Funny, I don't remember it debuting in 1991.

Ultimately, the most impressive count, and the best one to use as a comparison, is the total number of episodes produced.  Used to be that was pretty obscure information, but any more with all the resources at our disposal, we can make some pretty darned good estimates, if not know outright.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2008, 08:35:32 PM »
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'175552\' date=\'Jan 19 2008, 07:00 PM\']Ultimately, the most impressive count, and the best one to use as a comparison, is the total number of episodes produced.  Used to be that was pretty obscure information, but any more with all the resources at our disposal, we can make some pretty darned good estimates, if not know outright.
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Well, if you want numbers...Price hits 6,800 at the end of this coming week.

/That number used to be so obscure, the staff didn't know it.
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2008, 08:39:25 PM »
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'175557\' date=\'Jan 19 2008, 08:35 PM\']
Well, if you want numbers...Price hits 6,800 at the end of this coming week.

/That number used to be so obscure, the staff didn't know it.
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And as everyone knows, the Jeopardy! staff lost count of the number of episodes in Ken Jennings's run.

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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2008, 10:14:03 PM »
I abandoned it after a few minutes when I was writing my last response, but some thumbnail math gave me 9000-something total episodes ever of Wheel of Fortune, against 8000-something total episodes ever of Jeopardy!

. . . but J! is gaining on Wheel by 35 episodes a year (6 vs. 13 weeks of reruns).

(Wheel still has 13 weeks of reruns, right?)
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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2008, 11:08:11 PM »
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'175552\' date=\'Jan 19 2008, 06:00 PM\']
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'175541\' date=\'Jan 19 2008, 04:20 PM\']
And while I understand Robert's logic, you can't really say WoF's been on for 41 years if you combine the daytime run and nighttime run.  Then for TPiR you'd have to count James, Kennedy and Davidson's runs in with Barker, Carey and Cullen (plus the brief CBS Barker prime-time run).   By that count, TPiR's been on for 75 years.[/quote]
More and more often, the terminology is getting blurred anyway.  I just heard that Survivor is about to start its seventeenth season.  Funny, I don't remember it debuting in 1991.[/quote]
Yeah...Survivor considers every thirteen-episode 'game' to be a season.  They just happen to run two of those a year.  (Yes, I'm sure you know that.)  

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2008, 11:52:28 PM »
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'175563\' date=\'Jan 19 2008, 10:14 PM\']
I abandoned it after a few minutes when I was writing my last response, but some thumbnail math gave me 9000-something total episodes ever of Wheel of Fortune, against 8000-something total episodes ever of Jeopardy![/quote]
Pretty good thumbnailing when it comes to Jeopardy.  As I said, we have resources, and in this particular case we have:

Don Pardo telling us on the last episode that there were 2,753 shows produced, which probably did not count the one season of weekly syndication, so let's add 26 more.

Twenty-two weeks of the 1978-79 version, which were unlikely to have had any repeats.  Even though one or more may have been preempted, let's call it 110.

Friday's episode of Jeopardy was #5380.  Since the 65 season one repeats were given different episode numbers, the actual number of new episodes produced is 5315.  (Technically, one of those episodes was a retrospective and not a game.)

Add 'em up and Monday's episode will be the 8,205th episode of Jeopardy ever produced, give or take a very, very few.  If you count Bill's nine years of day & night episodes, Price probably still has more, but with fewer repeats, Jeopardy is gaining on it each season as well.
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2008, 06:04:04 AM »
May we add the 13 or so ABC "Super Jeopardy" episodes to the total?
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