Author Topic: Host/Announcer parings (Read 4640 times)

Jay Temple · « **on:** February 21, 2008, 11:08:50 PM »

Here's something I've been pondering: Which announcer introduced the same host the most different times? Pat Sajak's and Bob Barker's tenures on WoF and TPIR were split among different announcers, and the panel shows with long runs only did one show a week. I'm thinking Johnny Gilbert announcing Alex Trebek may be tops.

Terry K · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2008, 11:47:54 PM »

Don Pardo announcing Art Fleming perhaps?

Jay Stewart introing Monty Hall?

Kenny and Peter Marshall?

PYLdude · « **Reply #2 on:** February 21, 2008, 11:55:43 PM »

[quote name=\'Terry K\' post=\'178487\' date=\'Feb 21 2008, 11:47 PM\']
Don Pardo announcing Art Fleming perhaps?

Jay Stewart introing Monty Hall?

Kenny and Peter Marshall?
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None of which top the Gilbert-Trebek pairing.

My count: 12, 14, and 16 years each? Don't feel like Googling right now.

clemon79 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 21, 2008, 11:57:34 PM »

[quote name=\'Terry K\' post=\'178487\' date=\'Feb 21 2008, 08:47 PM\']
Don Pardo announcing Art Fleming perhaps?

Jay Stewart introing Monty Hall?

Kenny and Peter Marshall?
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None of those three shows have run as long as Trebekardy, though. I think Gilbert/Trebek pretty much wins by default.

Terry K · « **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2008, 02:27:48 AM »

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'178490\' date=\'Feb 22 2008, 12:57 AM\']
[quote name=\'Terry K\' post=\'178487\' date=\'Feb 21 2008, 08:47 PM\']
Don Pardo announcing Art Fleming perhaps?

Jay Stewart introing Monty Hall?

Kenny and Peter Marshall?
[/quote]
None of those three shows have run as long as Trebekardy, though. I think Gilbert/Trebek pretty much wins by default.
[/quote]

Although..Weren't most of those 52 year a week shows vs. the 39 or so that J! does? Also...in the case of J! and HS there were night time syndie versions?

mmb5 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 23, 2008, 09:29:31 AM »

[quote name=\'Terry K\' post=\'178571\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 02:27 AM\']
Although..Weren't most of those 52 year a week shows vs. the 39 or so that J! does? Also...in the case of J! and HS there were night time syndie versions?
[/quote]
Let's do the math...

As of last night, J!'s current incarnation has had 5,405 shows. The Fleming + Pardo incarnation would be 2,753 (mentioned on the final episode) + 39 (one year of syndication) = 2,792. Don Pardo didn't do the '79 revival, that was John Harlan.

Wikipedia (grr) says all incarnations of Hollywood Squares total to 3,536 episodes. I can't buy that figure, since the non-Marshall figure alone is around 2,000 (9 seasons of 195 episodes each). Assuming no reruns and no preemptions, the daytime version should have had 3,570 episodes, the primetime version had at most 30, four years of one-a-week syndication (39 x 4 = 156), four years of two-a-week syndication (39 x 8 = 312) and one year of five-a-week syndication (195) still leave it in the low 4,000 range.

No hard figure for LMAD yet, but same math:
3,270 daytime (at most)
148 primetime (at most)
273 1-or-2-a-week syndie (at most)
195 5-a-week syndie
equals 3,886. Jay Stewart didn't do any LMAD after Las Vegas

--Mike

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #6 on:** February 23, 2008, 01:00:17 PM »

What about Don Pardo introing Bill Cullen over different shows(not always regularly) between '52 and '75?

Kevin Prather · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2008, 04:59:51 PM »

[quote name=\'Terry K\' post=\'178571\' date=\'Feb 22 2008, 11:27 PM\']
Weren't most of those 52 year a week shows...
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I lol'd.

/One hell of a week.

davemackey · « **Reply #8 on:** February 23, 2008, 09:32:03 PM »

[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'178587\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 09:29 AM\']
No hard figure for LMAD yet, but same math:
3,270 daytime (at most)
148 primetime (at most)
273 1-or-2-a-week syndie (at most)
195 5-a-week syndie
equals 3,886. Jay Stewart didn't do any LMAD after Las Vegas
[/quote]
You're still a little short - there were two seasons of syndicated LMAD from 1984-1986. And Jay wasn't involved - Brian Cummings did the first season, Dean Goss the second.

PYLdude · « **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:51:07 PM »

[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'178666\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 09:32 PM\']
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'178587\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 09:29 AM\']
No hard figure for LMAD yet, but same math:
3,270 daytime (at most)
148 primetime (at most)
273 1-or-2-a-week syndie (at most)
195 5-a-week syndie
equals 3,886. Jay Stewart didn't do any LMAD after Las Vegas
[/quote]
You're still a little short - there were two seasons of syndicated LMAD from 1984-1986. And Jay wasn't involved - Brian Cummings did the first season, Dean Goss the second.
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Dave, I think we're just counting the Stewart-announced episodes.

calliaume · « **Reply #10 on:** February 24, 2008, 09:22:25 PM »

[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'178600\' date=\'Feb 23 2008, 02:00 PM\']
What about Don Pardo introing Bill Cullen over different shows(not always regularly) between '52 and '75?
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I think they only worked together on the NBC version of TPIR (Pardo was under contract to NBC, so Johnny Gilbert replaced him when it moved to ABC), and pretty regularly on Eye Guess, Three on a Match and Winning Streak). Even if Pardo announced every episode, I still think he'd be behind the Trebek-Gilbert combo.

Don Howard · « **Reply #11 on:** February 24, 2008, 10:34:01 PM »

Agreed on the Alex Trebek-Johnny Gilbert pairing having the record for game shows.
But to up the ante for overall television host-announcer pairings, that winning pair would be the team of Johnny Carson and Ed McMahon.

calliaume · « **Reply #12 on:** February 25, 2008, 10:47:04 AM »

[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'178831\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 11:34 PM\']
Agreed on the Alex Trebek-Johnny Gilbert pairing having the record for game shows.
But to up the ante for overall television host-announcer pairings, that winning pair would be the team of Johnny Carson and Ed McMahon.
[/quote]
Possibly -- but would there be any way to figure in the number of reruns and/or guest hosts? Plus Doc would switch over to Ed's spot every once in a while.

Don Howard · « **Reply #13 on:** February 25, 2008, 11:40:21 AM »

[quote name=\'calliaume\' post=\'178871\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 10:47 AM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'178831\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 11:34 PM\']
Agreed on the Alex Trebek-Johnny Gilbert pairing having the record for game shows.
But to up the ante for overall television host-announcer pairings, that winning pair would be the team of Johnny Carson and Ed McMahon.
[/quote]
Possibly -- but would there be any way to figure in the number of reruns and/or guest hosts? Plus Doc would switch over to Ed's spot every once in a while.
[/quote]
Don't forget to include their four years together on Who Do You Trust?

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #14 on:** February 25, 2008, 11:48:10 AM »

[quote name=\'calliaume\' post=\'178871\' date=\'Feb 25 2008, 10:47 AM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'178831\' date=\'Feb 24 2008, 11:34 PM\']
Agreed on the Alex Trebek-Johnny Gilbert pairing having the record for game shows.
But to up the ante for overall television host-announcer pairings, that winning pair would be the team of Johnny Carson and Ed McMahon.
[/quote]
Possibly -- but would there be any way to figure in the number of reruns and/or guest hosts? Plus Doc would switch over to Ed's spot every once in a while.[/quote]
The number of Carson Tonight Show episodes that's quoted all over the internet is 4531, which isn't anywhere close to the still-climbing number of Trebek-Gilbert pairings. The question is where that number comes from. There would be more than 7500 weeknights between 1962 and 1992, and while Carson's light schedule and frequent vacations became legendary, they really didn't rerun episodes very often.

If the 4531 number is real, then it makes the most sense (to me anyway) that it's the number of unique episodes Carson hosted, the rest being guest hosts or the occasional rerun. Remove from that the number of times Doc subbed for Ed, and not even adding the Johnny-Ed combos for stuff like Who Do You Trust? gets us near what Trebek and Gilbert have accomplished together.