Big news on the TPIR front...

[Jay Temple]

I had to chuckle at this passage from the link that urbanpreppie05 posted:

This was to make room for her pet project, "Jackpot", which she considered the new breed of shows, hosted by "young studs."

Geoff Edwards was a young stud?

[J.R.]

I know this isn't "big news", but has anyone else noticed they've added a sponsor to Drew's closing remarks? (9Lives pet food I believe)

[davemackey]

[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'189842\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 01:13 AM\']
I had to chuckle at this passage from the link that urbanpreppie05 posted:

This was to make room for her pet project, "Jackpot", which she considered the new breed of shows, hosted by "young studs."

Geoff Edwards was a young stud?
[/quote]
At the time, yes. The Lin Bolen ideal of emcee was youngish looking, more hair than you'd expect (think early Alex Trebek), maybe a mustache, and open shirts with leisure suits. Except for the mustache, Geoff Edwards fit the bill in 1974.

[chris319]

[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'189853\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 03:24 AM\']
[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'189842\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 01:13 AM\']
I had to chuckle at this passage from the link that urbanpreppie05 posted:

This was to make room for her pet project, "Jackpot", which she considered the new breed of shows, hosted by "young studs."

Geoff Edwards was a young stud?
[/quote]
At the time, yes. The Lin Bolen ideal of emcee was youngish looking, more hair than you'd expect (think early Alex Trebek), maybe a mustache, and open shirts with leisure suits. Except for the mustache, Geoff Edwards fit the bill in 1974.[/quote]
Then she turned around and hired Allen Ludden. I can tell you how much of a stud he was.

[mmb5]

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189855\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 07:26 AM\']
Then she turned around and hired Allen Ludden. I can tell you how much of a stud he was.
[/quote]
Dear God, G-T had a casting couch?  I feel so sorry for you.


--Mike

[chris319]

[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'189858\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 06:24 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'189855\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 07:26 AM\']
Then she turned around and hired Allen Ludden. I can tell you how much of a stud he was.
[/quote]
Dear God, G-T had a casting couch?  I feel so sorry for you.
[/quote]
Mike, I have a story I will tell you the next time I see you in person.

[ChrisLambert!]

[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'189842\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 01:13 AM\']
Geoff Edwards was a young stud?
[/quote]

Right you are!

[TimK2003]

Okay, I can live with a single Showcase that both contestants bid on -- it shaves off a couple of minutes and it could lead to better showcases (creativity- & value-wise).

I can also live with a few less pricing games -- if it means that there will be more legitimate branded prize sponsors, instead of these "Your family will be getting their vitamins by enjoying canned corm" statements.

But the Big Wheel and the phrase "Come On Down" are as much an institution and an integral part of the show as the Daily Double and the "What Is" phrasing on J!.  Take either of those 2 factors away, and it will be more than just the fanboiz that will be making noise.

TPiR is Fremantle's mothership:  They cause this show to crash and burn because of changes, then all that will be left to "tinker" with will be American Idol -- And yet they be damned if they were to even think of touching that format!

[Frank15]

[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'189865\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 09:42 AM\']I can also live with a few less pricing games -- if it means that there will be more legitimate branded prize sponsors, instead of these "Your family will be getting their vitamins by enjoying canned corm" statements.[/quote]
What's the big deal with generic non-sponsored prize plugs, anyway?  I don't see why reducing the number of games from 6 to 4 is better than the generic non-sponsored prize plugs at all.

If the show reduces the number of games from 6 to 4, it will have a ton of time they'll have to kill.  Does anyone really want to see the show moving at Deal or No Deal's pace?

[Chelsea Thrasher]

[quote name=\'Frank15\' post=\'189881\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 12:11 PM\']
If the show reduces the number of games from 6 to 4, it will have a ton of time they'll have to kill.  Does anyone really want to see the show moving at Deal or No Deal's pace?
[/quote]

For $1,000, and a chance at $2,000, are the Snack Cakes 99 cents?...Find out right after THIS, you're watching The Price is Right on CBS!

[Jimmy Owen]

I'm hoping for a return to the Cullen "Gosh, that area rug would look great in my den" format.

[DrJWJustice]

[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'189882\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 12:28 PM\']
[quote name=\'Frank15\' post=\'189881\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 12:11 PM\']
If the show reduces the number of games from 6 to 4, it will have a ton of time they'll have to kill.  Does anyone really want to see the show moving at Deal or No Deal's pace?
[/quote]

For $1,000, and a chance at $2,000, are the Snack Cakes 99 cents?...Find out right after THIS, you're watching The Price is Right on CBS!
[/quote]

What frightens me -- and after reading a few of these blogs, and they're all moving in the same direction -- is that this really could happen.  TPiR has always prided itself on being the fastest-paced show in daytime.  That pace kept it watchable, if not interesting.  

Lemme ask something else:  Why is CBS allowing this to happen?  Do they have the means to putting the kibosh on this?

[wheelloon]

Man this thread is like a roller coaster...

One page, it has me rofl-ing, the next page is so depressing it's like I need to watch a Lucinda Bassett commercial on "Attacking Anxiety and Depression." A bipolar game show fan would go SQUEEEE! and get a chubby going through this thread...

Anyhow, I'm very sorry to hear Dob is being let go, truly. When a person works for the same institution for that long, it's sad to hear that they're leaving on terms not by their own accord. I hope we see him in the production chair for another show very soon. He kept TPIR going strong through some tough times and ratings fluxes most producers couldn't have...

As for rumors, I won't believe anything until I see it in person. I mean, when a clip of "TNPIR 08" appears online, a commercial disclosing such events, or when I watch the season premiere in a couple months, then I'll believe the changes. If they are what the rumors are proposing, only then will I comment on what I see. I recommend others should do the same.

As for time limits, a proposition I've made before *and will likely be met with scorn*: have 5 pricing games, the one directly after the 1st SS being a 2 player game. Example? 2-player Bullseye from 197x.

This allows a number of possibilities. More pricing games can be developed (some could take the LMAD pricing game route or similar, which I think would be excellent), with some very novel and unique concepts resulting. If I've thought of a number of games that could work like this, there's no reason the TPIR crew couldn't.

This measure would also cut time by eliminating what it would take to do one full-pricing game, *do two IUFB's, then go to commercial, then bring the show back with intro-ing the prize then the game* which would be just enough time so Drew won't have a coronary from moving a mile a minute. The budget would be cheaper: only 1 prize given away instead of 2, potentially. Plus, this might allow it so that, depending on how it could be worked, at least one pricing game is won every show. OTOH, depending on how they wanna play it, they might get a pricing game with 2 winners, one a "moderate" winner, and one a "big" winner (also like LMAD), or a pricing game with 2 losers *cue a doubly-loud audience "AWWWWW"*. The same basic pacing of the show would still be very much the same...

I'm also interested to see what the CBS people and Moonves has to say on this. Others can provide more insight, but if CBS isn't happy with some of the stuff Fremantle is doing, can't they step in, themselves, and say "hell no?" It's airing on their network after all, and IF *only if* Fremantle wants the show to continue to air on CBS, they can't tick them off too badly. Don't bet either that if Fremantle tries to shop and sell the show to another network, if they disillusion CBS enough, that it'll get picked up just like that. About their only hope would be syndication...

[CarShark]

[quote name=\'Frank15\' post=\'189881\' date=\'Jul 6 2008, 01:11 PM\']If the show reduces the number of games from 6 to 4, it will have a ton of time they'll have to kill.  Does anyone really want to see the show moving at Deal or No Deal's pace?[/quote]Hey, it's better than what we have now, where Drew has to rush through a second half filled with dull one-prize games and yet another playing of Money Game. If there's anything that this show needed to get better, it's more time. More time for better, longer games. More time for interaction. When Barker said, "This is the fastest moving game show on television," he knew he wasn't true. Sure, it moved fast...until he met a contestant and had a long conversation about their unique name or whether he could guess their occupation or not. Everyone had a nice laugh, then back to action. That's why I find Adam Nedeff's posting of the "Salute to Roger Dobkowitz" Showcase so ironic. It's 3 1/2 minutes long. The show can't have any 3 1/2 minute long Showcases because of the time constraints making the format the staff clings to increasingly unsustainable.

As for changing the look, I say that it's been a long time coming. The show should have done a better job with updating the look of the props and set. I saw an MDS in HD, and it's just pathetic how old everything looks. Scratched. Worn. Faded. Deserving of the wrecking ball. I wouldn't be surprised if the staff's downright blinkered resistance to change led to the show's downfall in the near future, but I'd take no joy in it, because at the end of the day it doesn't really matter to me. Even if I find out tomorrow that this is all a hoax, and everything will go back to the same-ol' same-ol', I'll still watch. I don't watch game shows specifically for sets or music or models or announcers or contestants, or even hosts. I watch them for the same reason I started watching them when I was 7: because they make me happy. I get to watch an average person step up on a stage and have some fun and possibly change their lives. That's why even though I might stop watching DOND and Wheel for a while because I get tired of the gimmicks or Jeopardy and TPIR because they feel repetitive, I keep coming back to the genre. This is the only kind of programming that consistently puts a smile on my face. That's all I ask for.

[Justin Dyer]

I rarely post here. I am a lurker. But I think a lot of the posts here are really jumping the gun. We don't know what the changes are going to be or how drastic they will be. I think people are over-reacting. I think we should wait before we panic. It's possible the changes are going to be minor. On the other hand, some of the posts here about the video wall, four pricing games, eliminating the big wheel, no contestants row, etc. may be correct. I'm going to wait for more information before I panic. I'm going to get flamed for this, but I always found the Big Wheel kind of boring. I always fast forward through it.

Justin