Author Topic: TPiR Season 37 changes (Read 72153 times)

Mr. Armadillo · « **Reply #150 on:** August 15, 2008, 05:19:45 PM »

[quote name=\'KrisW73\' post=\'194206\' date=\'Aug 15 2008, 02:36 PM\']
3 Strikes played for Chevy Aveos? Interesting.

/sarcasm
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They don't have Chevy Aveos anymore. For much the same reason they do have Hondas now, occasionally.

WilliamPorygon · « **Reply #151 on:** August 15, 2008, 05:28:51 PM »

I wish they would just go ahead and retire 3 Strikes already.

Robert Hutchinson · « **Reply #152 on:** August 15, 2008, 10:19:49 PM »

Thought the first: Wasn't 3 Strikes regularly NOT played for expensive cars in its first years?

Thought the second: 4 numbers with 1 strike chip isn't THAT much easier than 5 numbers with 1 strike chip, especially since the first number is usually much easier to place. I don't see why they can't still play for more expensive cars, at least occasionally.

TroubadourNando · « **Reply #153 on:** August 15, 2008, 10:32:13 PM »

[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'194243\' date=\'Aug 15 2008, 10:19 PM\']
Thought the first: Wasn't 3 Strikes regularly NOT played for expensive cars in its first years?

Thought the second: 4 numbers with 1 strike chip isn't THAT much easier than 5 numbers with 1 strike chip, especially since the first number is usually much easier to place. I don't see why they can't still play for more expensive cars, at least occasionally.
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Isn't the first number pretty much trivial anyway? There never seem to be more than two good options for it unless the contestant is really out of it in regards to having a range.

I think the....letdown?....coming off this is just because we're used to 3 Strikes as a high-end game after so long.

Steve Gavazzi · « **Reply #154 on:** August 16, 2008, 12:01:40 AM »

[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'194243\' date=\'Aug 15 2008, 10:19 PM\']Thought the first: Wasn't 3 Strikes regularly NOT played for expensive cars in its first years?[/quote]
Yes, but given that the last time it happened was June of 1993, I'm not sure how important that really is.

rwalker · « **Reply #155 on:** August 16, 2008, 11:24:30 AM »

Ack, this change kind of sucks, but it sounds like it could be for a budget reason too. Even though it will probably be played more often. We'll have to see what the win loss record is with the new format.

Robert Hutchinson · « **Reply #156 on:** August 16, 2008, 05:02:36 PM »

[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'194253\' date=\'Aug 16 2008, 12:01 AM\'][quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'194243\' date=\'Aug 15 2008, 10:19 PM\']Thought the first: Wasn't 3 Strikes regularly NOT played for expensive cars in its first years?[/quote]Yes, but given that the last time it happened was June of 1993, I'm not sure how important that really is.[/quote]
Well, that's why I made it a thought and not a counterpoint to anyone's argument.

I do think there's a distinction to be made between thinking that 3 Strikes lost a little of its luster with this move and/or thinking that it might look cheap, as compared to "Cadillacs Cadillacs Cadillacs! If the car price starts with a 1, my day is ruined!" I am aiming, as it were, at the latter group.

NickintheATL · « **Reply #157 on:** August 17, 2008, 12:49:21 AM »

I for one won't mind the four digit version again. And I don't mind the lesser cars, 3 Strikes was indeed played for lesser cars for years, why shouldn't it work here?

Also, other games give away the first number for free (and if this has been said already, apologies...), so what's the problem?

Dbacksfan12 · « **Reply #158 on:** August 17, 2008, 02:42:05 PM »

People can't accept it because its one more change.

I hope the first car they play for is a Chevrolet Aveo.

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #159 on:** August 17, 2008, 03:10:53 PM »

[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'194346\' date=\'Aug 17 2008, 02:42 PM\']
People can't accept it because its one more change.
I hope the first car they play for is a Chevrolet Aveo.[/quote]
Heck, you want to REALLY freak them out? Don't play it for a car at all.

chad1m · « **Reply #160 on:** August 17, 2008, 03:17:24 PM »

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'194352\' date=\'Aug 17 2008, 03:10 PM\']Heck, you want to REALLY freak them out? Don't play it for a car at all.[/quote]They should play it for a huge jar of jellybeans, like at the fair.

Chelsea Thrasher · « **Reply #161 on:** August 17, 2008, 04:21:30 PM »

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'194354\' date=\'Aug 17 2008, 02:17 PM\']
They should play it for a huge jar of jellybeans, like at the fair.
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Yeah, but unless Jelly Belly actually pays for the plug, we'd get subjected to crap like "Jelly Beans make a delicious snack time treat!"

NickintheATL · « **Reply #162 on:** August 17, 2008, 06:26:27 PM »

[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'194361\' date=\'Aug 17 2008, 04:21 PM\']
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'194354\' date=\'Aug 17 2008, 02:17 PM\']
They should play it for a huge jar of jellybeans, like at the fair.
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Yeah, but unless Jelly Belly actually pays for the plug, we'd get subjected to crap like "Jelly Beans make a delicious snack time treat!"
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What next...

"A new car!" (pause for reaction) "This new car will get you to and from where you want to go!"

/The above is tongue-in-cheek

ClockGameJohn · « **Reply #163 on:** August 17, 2008, 08:39:05 PM »

[quote name=\'TroubadourNando\' post=\'194246\' date=\'Aug 15 2008, 10:32 PM\']
Isn't the first number pretty much trivial anyway?
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I say no. It adds an additional element of fun to the game. Playing along at home is what gets people hooked on a show. Screaming at your TV saying "It's not a 2, dumbass!" is why people watch. 'I can do better than they can.'

Many times a 3, 4, or 5 are used and most times, any could be possible.

Unrealtor · « **Reply #164 on:** August 19, 2008, 12:33:56 AM »

[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'194243\' date=\'Aug 15 2008, 09:19 PM\']
Thought the second: 4 numbers with 1 strike chip isn't THAT much easier than 5 numbers with 1 strike chip, especially since the first number is usually much easier to place. I don't see why they can't still play for more expensive cars, at least occasionally.
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I was bored of the Olympics this evening and had nothing better to do, so I wrote a simulator. In the simulator, guesses are random but no digit/position guess is repeated. Over a few million trials, I got:

5 digits, 1 strike ("old" format): 33% of games won
4 digits, 1 strike ("new" format): 44% won
5 digits, 3 strikes (never played, I think): 13% won
4 digits, 3 strikes (the original format, recently revived for one playing): 21% won

So the new probability is about 1/3 higher than it used to be. It's too bad it's apparently a part of the general "car game" rotation because an expected value of $16,000 per playing (a $48,000 car every third time under the old rules), would still work out to a pretty nice $36,000 car with the new win percentage.