TPiR Season 37 changes

[Steve Gavazzi]

[quote name=\'Unrealtor\' post=\'194453\' date=\'Aug 19 2008, 12:33 AM\']5 digits, 3 strikes (never played, I think)[/quote]
On the contrary, played for about 15 years.

[tpirfan28]

If this is true, this is probably the most brainless move yet.  Source

As I understand it, when playing Make Your Mark, the $500 now has little to do with game play.
If the contestant loses, they will still keep the $500.
Basically, if you play Make Your Mark, you win $500 minimum.  This once again takes away an integral part of the game.

The $500 was given up if the contestant decided to change the marker after two prices were revealed.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'194489\' date=\'Aug 19 2008, 11:38 AM\']
The $500 was given up if the contestant decided to change the marker after two prices were revealed.[/quote]I don't remember: before, if you decided not to switch and failed, did you still get the five hundy?

I wonder if that's what they're doing now, but it still costs you the $500 to make the switch.

[tpirfan28]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'194491\' date=\'Aug 19 2008, 02:42 PM\']
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'194489\' date=\'Aug 19 2008, 11:38 AM\']
The $500 was given up if the contestant decided to change the marker after two prices were revealed.[/quote]I don't remember: before, if you decided not to switch and failed, did you still get the five hundy?

I wonder if that's what they're doing now, but it still costs you the $500 to make the switch.
[/quote]No switch + marker in wrong spot in the olden days meant you also lost the $500.

No switch + marker in the wrong spot now means you keep the $500.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'194493\' date=\'Aug 19 2008, 11:46 AM\']
No switch + marker in the wrong spot now means you keep the $500.[/quote]
My question is: what happens when you switch and a marker is in the wrong spot? Do you keep the $500 then? Because, if so, that makes the OP's statement patently false.

[Kevin Prather]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'194495\' date=\'Aug 19 2008, 12:05 PM\']
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'194493\' date=\'Aug 19 2008, 11:46 AM\']
No switch + marker in the wrong spot now means you keep the $500.[/quote]
My question is: what happens when you switch and a marker is in the wrong spot? Do you keep the $500 then? Because, if so, that makes the OP's statement patently false.
[/quote]
Because I'm not 100% sure what you mean, here are all the outcomes...

Correctly leave the marker alone = prizes and $500
Correctly move the marker = prizes, no $500
Incorrectly leave the marker alone = no prizes, no $500
Incorrectly move the marker = no prizes, no $500

[CJBojangles]

The $500 was essentially a bonus for picking out the 3 right prices on the first try.

[Robert Hutchinson]

While I liked the old Make Your Mark rules (you could literally see the thought "but I can't give up $500 that's in my greedy little hands!" written on so many contestants' faces), I don't think it's an integral part of the game--that is, there's nothing wrong with the new rules, and no one would have batted an eye had they been the rules from day one.

I do think it's not the best move, however, to give contestants a cash safety net, even one as small as $500, in a non-car game. If they were trying to give me a hovercraft and a gumball machine, for instance, I'd be telling Drew not to switch the last price before they even revealed the first two.

(I originally wrote "pinball machine", a prize which would actually have me paying attention.)

[TroubadourNando]

I am not struck by the feeling that this was thought out very well.

[tpirfan28]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'194534\' date=\'Aug 19 2008, 07:20 PM\']
I'm not asking about *then.* I know how it worked then. I want to know what the rule is *now.*

'Cuz it sounds like the Chicken Littles over at G-R are getting all riled up saying "the least you can win is $500 now!!!!!!111!!!" when that doesn't sound like it's the case at all, if you still have to fork it over to make the switch.
[/quote]
I do not know yet...and that really wasn't that clear on that post.  If the $500 still has to be sacrificed for the switch, then it's a odd change.  If the $500 isn't even dealt with in the switch, then it's definitely a WTF change.

[TroubadourNando]

[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'194535\' date=\'Aug 19 2008, 07:55 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'194534\' date=\'Aug 19 2008, 07:20 PM\']
I'm not asking about *then.* I know how it worked then. I want to know what the rule is *now.*

'Cuz it sounds like the Chicken Littles over at G-R are getting all riled up saying "the least you can win is $500 now!!!!!!111!!!" when that doesn't sound like it's the case at all, if you still have to fork it over to make the switch.
[/quote]
I do not know yet...and that really wasn't that clear on that post.  If the $500 still has to be sacrificed for the switch, then it's a odd change.  If the $500 isn't even dealt with in the switch, then it's definitely a WTF change.
[/quote]

If it is still used to buy the switch on the third mark....then what IS the change? I'm actually a fan of this game and I still get the feeling I'm missing something.

[Unrealtor]

[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'194454\' date=\'Aug 19 2008, 12:00 AM\']
[quote name=\'Unrealtor\' post=\'194453\' date=\'Aug 19 2008, 12:33 AM\']5 digits, 3 strikes (never played, I think)[/quote]
On the contrary, played for about 15 years.
[/quote]

D'oh. For some reason, when I posted last night, I was convinced that they hadn't ever played that way, but now I remember that they did. The dismal win rate with five digits and three strikes is probably why it got to be a luxury car game in the first place.

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'194534\' date=\'Aug 19 2008, 06:20 PM\']
'Cuz it sounds like the Chicken Littles over at G-R are getting all riled up saying "the least you can win is $500 now!!!!!!111!!!" when that doesn't sound like it's the case at all, if you still have to fork it over to make the switch.
[/quote]

I have to imagine the $500 bribe only applies if you don't change. The new regime over at Studio 33 may be changing things for sake of change, but I don't think they're going to start handing out money just for making it up on stage. (EDIT: It's my interpretation that the only change is that if you don't switch and hace the third marker wrong, you keep the $500 now, but lost it before.)

Then again, there are currently at least two games where it's impossible to win absolutely nothing (Let 'Em Roll and Any Number) and it would take a monumental act of stupidity not to win the two-digit prize in Ten Chances.

[SRIV94]

[quote name=\'Unrealtor\' post=\'194543\' date=\'Aug 19 2008, 07:19 PM\']
Then again, there are currently at least two games where it's impossible to win absolutely nothing (Let 'Em Roll and Any Number) and it would take a monumental act of stupidity not to win the two-digit prize in Ten Chances.
[/quote]
Money Game would also count.  Either you're gonna win a couple hundred bucks or the car (or possibly both).

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'Unrealtor\' post=\'194543\' date=\'Aug 19 2008, 05:19 PM\']
(EDIT: It's my interpretation that the only change is that if you don't switch and hace the third marker wrong, you keep the $500 now, but lost it before.)[/quote]
That is my interpretation as well.

Which is a long way from "Basically, if you play Make Your Mark, you win $500 minimum."

[TroubadourNando]

I do wonder why the change was made, but at worst it's just a little bit convoluted. Not a biggie.