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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2008, 12:00:31 PM »
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'197716\' date=\'Sep 19 2008, 03:28 PM\']
[quote name=\'Gus\' post=\'197712\' date=\'Sep 19 2008, 12:20 PM\']
Who said I can't be excited about something even though it's not the absolute best thing evar?[/quote]
Certainly not I. I was just saying that I just don't see much in there to get excited about.
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Based on the initial review, I would say the stuff to get excited about it a reasonably unbroken game that features actual competition. When was the last time that happened?

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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2008, 12:23:41 PM »
[quote name=\'JackSpader\' post=\'197753\' date=\'Sep 20 2008, 11:24 AM\'][quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'197741\' date=\'Sep 19 2008, 11:22 PM\']This format seems like it could lead to a looooot of stretching if you get a couple of smart players.[/quote]How is that a problem?  Two smart players would actually turn the game into a nail-biter.[/quote]
This is episodic television and the entire half hour has to be filled.  The game might be exciting with two smart players, but it would also be short, and that's what Robert is saying.  If I'm reading it right, there could theoretically be as few as 18 questions asked in a game, compared to the 61 that Jeopardy can get through.
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2008, 03:00:17 PM »
[quote name=\'GameShowFan\' post=\'197755\' date=\'Sep 20 2008, 09:00 AM\']
Based on the initial review, I would say the stuff to get excited about it a reasonably unbroken game that features actual competition. When was the last time that happened?[/quote]
If I stuck two people up on stage and alternated asking them questions until someone got to 10, that would also be unbroken and feature actual competition., but it wouldn't be very original. That's what I'm seeing here. The whole thing strikes me as very pedestrian.
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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2008, 04:03:24 PM »
[quote name=\'JackSpader\' post=\'197753\' date=\'Sep 20 2008, 08:24 AM\']My only gripe is that they should change the name of the team of internet players to something like the "Web".  That might remove the problem of labeling the outside players as "America" because some viewers at home might see that as offensively labeling America as a bad guy.  Other than that, I'm watching Monday.[/quote]Who is this 'some'? Raise your hand if when you heard about this, you thought "Oh no! They're making "America" the spoiler! People in Europe won't like this a bit!" or some similar nonsense.

And that's what this is. Anyone who sees America's Team as anything more than the opposition (the Spoilers from Double Dare, even?) is not worth my time, and I'm tired of having to put bubble wrap around every single expression because it might offend someone somewhere.
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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2008, 04:30:17 PM »
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'197765\' date=\'Sep 20 2008, 03:00 PM\']
That's what I'm seeing here. The whole thing strikes me as very pedestrian.
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I see what you mean, but that's when it comes down to the execution. Some of the most popular games are derived from very pedestrian concepts. Millionaire is nothing more than a multiple-choice quiz. Add the lifelines, and you actually have an interesting strategic trivia game.

Ditto for Jeopardy!, in that, it's nothing more than a reverse Q&A over and over, but the Daily Doubles and other factors add strategy to what is a very simple concept.

I'd rather see a well-executed pedestrian concept, than a poorly broken concept with potential (i.e. Temptation or Crosswords).
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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2008, 04:52:56 PM »
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'197771\' date=\'Sep 20 2008, 01:30 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'197765\' date=\'Sep 20 2008, 03:00 PM\']
That's what I'm seeing here. The whole thing strikes me as very pedestrian.
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I see what you mean, but that's when it comes down to the execution. Some of the most popular games are derived from very pedestrian concepts. Millionaire is nothing more than a multiple-choice quiz. Add the lifelines, and you actually have an interesting strategic trivia game.

Ditto for Jeopardy!, in that, it's nothing more than a reverse Q&A over and over, but the Daily Doubles and other factors add strategy to what is a very simple concept.[/quote]
Agreed on both counts. But "keep control on a right answer" is pretty much the only angle this game has, and that only in the first round. And that doesn't do it for me. The "America's Team" crap is chrome and no more.

I dunno. I don't see it. I'd be thrilled to be wrong.
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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2008, 07:23:38 PM »
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'197756\' date=\'Sep 20 2008, 12:23 PM\']This is episodic television and the entire half hour has to be filled.  The game might be exciting with two smart players, but it would also be short, and that's what Robert is saying.[/quote]
Yes, that was it. (Matt, you really get me.)

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If I'm reading it right, there could theoretically be as few as 18 questions asked in a game, compared to the 61 that Jeopardy can get through.
I had it down to as few as 15, but I realize now that I was making an assumption about the first round wedges "going through" to the second round.
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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2008, 07:33:23 PM »
[quote name=\'JackSpader\' post=\'197753\' date=\'Sep 20 2008, 10:24 AM\']
I mean I feel that this game will be one of the better new formats I have seen in years.  So far the format definitely blows the Family Channel show out of the water.  
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Maybe, but the announcer on that FAM show blows everybody out of the water.

/Well, everybody except maybe Pat O'Brien.
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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2008, 07:36:22 PM »
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'197780\' date=\'Sep 20 2008, 07:33 PM\']
/Well, everybody except maybe Pat O'Brien.
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He's not immune anymore.
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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2008, 07:59:02 PM »
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'197772\' date=\'Sep 20 2008, 04:52 PM\']
 The "America's Team" crap is chrome and no more.
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That's what I've been saying about the Dallas Cowboys for the last 30-some years!

:)
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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2008, 08:43:27 PM »
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'197782\' date=\'Sep 20 2008, 07:59 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'197772\' date=\'Sep 20 2008, 04:52 PM\']
 The "America's Team" crap is chrome and no more.
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That's what I've been saying about the Dallas Cowboys for the last 30-some years!

:)
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Watch it, pal! >:o      ;-)

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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2008, 09:03:36 PM »
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'197781\' date=\'Sep 20 2008, 06:36 PM\']
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'197780\' date=\'Sep 20 2008, 07:33 PM\']
/Well, everybody except maybe Pat O'Brien.
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He's not immune anymore.
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But he's still great.
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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2008, 01:19:35 AM »
Well, I know it's still a day and a half away, and digital programming guides are always subject to change.  But while the TP:AP site lists the show as airing in a double-run on WPWR starting at 3pm, the Comcast guide shows a double-run of Tyler Perry's House of Payne in that slot through the whole week.

/if true, that's 4 local airings a day of Tyler Perry
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2008, 02:22:42 AM »
[quote name=\'Gus\' post=\'197685\' date=\'Sep 19 2008, 10:29 AM\']
Premiere ep of Trivial Pursuit came down this morning. Here's the gameplay rundown:

Computer randomly picks a category and value (seemed to be about $300-$600 in increments of $50) for each question.

Correct answers by the studio contestants put the value into the studio bank; triple-stumpers put it in America's bank.
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My understanding from the taping I attended is that the values are $250-$500 in the first round.  Also, I believe that any question which is answered incorrectly -- whether it is answered correctly by another player or not -- goes into America's bank.  Did you see any examples to the contrary on the premiere ep?

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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2008, 02:26:10 AM »
[quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' post=\'197736\' date=\'Sep 19 2008, 10:16 PM\']
A couple of other notes:  If America wins, they split - if the Contestant wins, they get the chance to go double or nothing on one last question.  You could be looking at a theoretical $40k payday.  Doubtful, but it could happen.
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Again, this is not what I understand from the taping I saw.  If the Studio player wins, they win whatever is in the Studio bank... UNLESS they win before the game is completely over (i.e. the outcome of the last question or two in the endgame would not affect who the winner is).  In that case, they may answer the next question for double or nothing if they so choose.  (They may not answer more than one question for double or nothing should there be more than one that is unused.)