Author Topic: Developing a game show mock video (Read 10302 times)

JamesVipond · « **on:** December 10, 2008, 06:42:32 PM »

Having watched game show mock videos created by Michael Tiller and a couple of other YouTube users, I've decided to create at least one of my own. I'm starting with Super Pay Cards!, as it's a rather simple format.

I'm using a Mac mini with Poser 5, iMovie HD and NeoOffice. I already have the "contestants" and the first-round board. I'd be grateful for any sensible advice regarding this project.

clemon79 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 10, 2008, 06:52:08 PM »

[quote name=\'JamesVipond\' post=\'203378\' date=\'Dec 10 2008, 03:42 PM\']
I'd be grateful for any sensible advice regarding this project.[/quote]
Rethink it.

/and yes, that's sensible advice

Don Howard · « **Reply #2 on:** December 10, 2008, 07:52:23 PM »

No, no, I think James' ambition should be encouraged.
Your contestants do talk and move, don't they, James?

clemon79 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 10, 2008, 08:07:08 PM »

[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'203386\' date=\'Dec 10 2008, 04:52 PM\']
No, no, I think James' ambition should be encouraged.[/quote]
I'd agree on the condition that the inevitable "look at what I did and tell me how great it is!" post never happens. And to that end, I am not confident.

rjaguar3 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 10, 2008, 11:47:09 PM »

I think you should go ahead.

I'm indifferent to the graphics/sound of Tiller's videos, as I know that it is very time consuming to create one of those shows. As an example, I'm still in the process of adapting an episode of Mike Klauss's "The Big Decision" (first played on a.t.g-s) that was played on BigJon's forums in March 2008. I spent several hours constructing the set. If I want to have actual motion, I'd have to keyframe all the characters and the scoring displays. The way the game was played, the contestants do not speak at all. Sound and animation are not trivial to do, and I comment Tiller for putting forth an effort.

On the other hand, I think the material to the games blows. For example, the question on his episode of Hall's "Split Second" that weren't taken from episodes on Youtube still sucked. For example, one question could not possibly be answered without having expert knowledge of "Masters of the Maze," while another required similar levels of familiarity with "Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego?" The questions have been so bad that it is painful to get through an entire episode. On top of that, Tiller is not a very good host either, and he has all the time in the world to rerecord his voice if he should mess up. Yet he still seems like he has no idea what he's doing when he's hosting.

In summary, if you have good questions and are at least a capable host, I'd say go for it.

PYLdude · « **Reply #5 on:** December 11, 2008, 12:01:05 AM »

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'203379\' date=\'Dec 10 2008, 06:52 PM\']
[quote name=\'JamesVipond\' post=\'203378\' date=\'Dec 10 2008, 03:42 PM\']
I'd be grateful for any sensible advice regarding this project.[/quote]
Rethink it.

/and yes, that's sensible advice
[/quote]

I agree.

But whatever you decide to do, don't do something like this.

DoorNumberFour · « **Reply #6 on:** December 11, 2008, 12:05:36 AM »

[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'203395\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 12:01 AM\']
But whatever you decide to do, don't do something like this.
[/quote]
This is basically a good rule of thumb to follow in life, let alone the internet.

clemon79 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 11, 2008, 12:41:59 AM »

[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'203395\' date=\'Dec 10 2008, 09:01 PM\']
But whatever you decide to do, don't do something like this.[/quote]
That was the most wonderfully surreal thing I have ever seen. Someone could deliver a flaming phone book to my door in the next five minutes, and it wouldn't be as surreal as that.

tvwxman · « **Reply #8 on:** December 11, 2008, 08:44:29 AM »

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'203398\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 12:41 AM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'203395\' date=\'Dec 10 2008, 09:01 PM\']
But whatever you decide to do, don't do something like this.[/quote]
That was the most wonderfully surreal thing I have ever seen. Someone could deliver a flaming phone book to my door in the next five minutes, and it wouldn't be as surreal as that.
[/quote]
Oh. My. God.

In case you want more, there are 301 other videos that he has lovingly produced.

Jeremy Nelson · « **Reply #9 on:** December 11, 2008, 09:44:42 AM »

At least you won't be like the guy producing game shows with his lego sets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7No1ITs8HU

JamesVipond · « **Reply #10 on:** December 11, 2008, 10:18:18 AM »

[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'203386\' date=\'Dec 10 2008, 06:52 PM\']
No, no, I think James' ambition should be encouraged.
Your contestants do talk and move, don't they, James?
[/quote]

Yes, I plan to record my own voice as the host, and use the trial versions of Cepstral voices for the contestants.

chad1m · « **Reply #11 on:** December 11, 2008, 10:19:46 AM »

I'm going to try to use the phrase "Let's pay and go home" more in my daily conversations.

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #12 on:** December 11, 2008, 10:24:51 AM »

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'203398\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 12:41 AM\']
That was the most wonderfully surreal thing I have ever seen. [/quote]
Exactly my thought. In fact, quite frankly, Erik's efforts have been surreally fascinating to me for years now. In addition to the 301 YouTube videos and the 39 (probably more by now) Yahoo groups, there are also his parody song lyrics and my personal favorite, his message board.

I truly have a hard time wrapping my brain around any of it, because he's clearly got some real amount of functional skill. These videos and groups and boards just don't spring up out of thin air. But just as clearly, this is somebody with significant mental problems. It could be considered creepy (some people do find it so) but I think it's fascinating.

dale_grass · « **Reply #13 on:** December 11, 2008, 10:49:51 AM »

[font=\"Arial\"][color=\"#CC0000\"]RICHIE: HEY FONZ, WE HAVE GUESTS COMING OVER. WHERE CAN WE GET 10 CANS OF COFFEE AT A REASONABLE PRICE?

FONZ: WHY NOT BRADLEES?

RICHIE: BUT I'M LOW ON COFFEE FILTERS!

FONZ: NO PROBLEM. BRADLEES HAS THE LOWEST PRICES IN TOWN.

RICHIE: COME TO THINK OF IT, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A COFFEE POT.

FONZ: AY, NO SWEAT RICHIE. BRADLEES HAS EVERY SMALL HOME APPLIANCE YOU COULD EVER WANT.

RICHIE: AND A JUICER.

FONZ: SURE, THAT TOO.

DALE: (loads shotgun, turns on self)[/color][/font]

PYLdude · « **Reply #14 on:** December 11, 2008, 03:07:09 PM »

[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'203426\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 10:49 AM\']
[font=\"Arial\"][color=\"#CC0000\"]RICHIE: HEY FONZ, WE HAVE GUESTS COMING OVER. WHERE CAN WE GET 10 CANS OF COFFEE AT A REASONABLE PRICE?

FONZ: WHY NOT BRADLEES?

RICHIE: BUT I'M LOW ON COFFEE FILTERS!

FONZ: NO PROBLEM. BRADLEES HAS THE LOWEST PRICES IN TOWN.

RICHIE: COME TO THINK OF IT, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A COFFEE POT.

FONZ: AY, NO SWEAT RICHIE. BRADLEES HAS EVERY SMALL HOME APPLIANCE YOU COULD EVER WANT.

RICHIE: AND A JUICER.

FONZ: SURE, THAT TOO.

DALE: (loads shotgun, turns on self)[/color][/font]
[/quote]

Oh great, I'm responsible for a suicide.

(Coulda been worse...I coulda picked one of his other ones...)