Developing a game show mock video

[Don Howard]

I'm thinking I've misunderstood this whole endeavour.
I believed this project to be a game with a live homo sapiens host and actual persons as contestants with scoring and such as (props to Lauren Caitlin Upton) displayed upon a projection device.
Am I correct in presuming now that this is to be an entirely computer-generated presentation?

[comicus]

[quote name=\'JamesVipond\' post=\'203378\' date=\'Dec 10 2008, 06:42 PM\']
Having watched game show mock videos created by Michael Tiller and a couple of other YouTube users, I've decided to create at least one of my own. I'm starting with Super Pay Cards!, as it's a rather simple format.

I'm using a Mac mini with Poser 5, iMovie HD and NeoOffice. I already have the "contestants" and the first-round board. I'd be grateful for any sensible advice regarding this project.
[/quote]
Only if you allow Seanbaby to ruthlessly dissect it for lulz on his website.  (Does he even update that thing anymore?)

Seriously, though, this is the sort of thing that will destroy the Internet.  The day will come when we upload one homebrew game show or ranting whiny teenage idiot or middle-aged woman videotaping her cat or hastily recorded shot of someone's TV playing tonight's episode of Family Guy or college flash mob clip too many, and then we wind up with crashes, complete server breakdown, a global communications collapse and bloodbath riots in the street due to the immediate loss of the world's supply of free digital pornography.

It'll make 1929 and the Dust Bowl look like an afternoon at Chuck E. Cheese.

And why on earth would anyone want to emulate Michael Tiller?  It's going to look something like this, isn't it?  Perhaps shinier, since you're using newer software.  Yeah, still, no thanks.

[JamesVipond]

[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'203453\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 03:17 PM\']
[quote name=\'JamesVipond\' post=\'203378\' date=\'Dec 10 2008, 06:42 PM\']
Having watched game show mock videos created by Michael Tiller and a couple of other YouTube users, I've decided to create at least one of my own. I'm starting with Super Pay Cards!, as it's a rather simple format.

I'm using a Mac mini with Poser 5, iMovie HD and NeoOffice. I already have the "contestants" and the first-round board. I'd be grateful for any sensible advice regarding this project.
[/quote]
Only if you allow Seanbaby to ruthlessly dissect it for lulz on his website.  (Does he even update that thing anymore?)

Seriously, though, this is the sort of thing that will destroy the Internet.  The day will come when we upload one homebrew game show or ranting whiny teenage idiot or middle-aged woman videotaping her cat or hastily recorded shot of someone's TV playing tonight's episode of Family Guy or college flash mob clip too many, and then we wind up with crashes, complete server breakdown, a global communications collapse and bloodbath riots in the street due to the immediate loss of the world's supply of free digital pornography.

It'll make 1929 and the Dust Bowl look like an afternoon at Chuck E. Cheese.

And why on earth would anyone want to emulate Michael Tiller?  It's going to look something like this, isn't it?  Perhaps shinier, since you're using newer software.  Yeah, still, no thanks.
[/quote]

So it wasn't such a good idea. Is an administrator available to lock this thread?

[Don Howard]

[quote name=\'JamesVipond\' post=\'203456\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 04:26 PM\']
Is an administrator available to lock this thread?
[/quote]
iris'll take care of it by the end of the week.
If you were actually hosting the thing and the game happenings were being played out live, then I'd be in the tent with this.

[comicus]

[quote name=\'JamesVipond\' post=\'203456\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 04:26 PM\']
So it wasn't such a good idea. Is an administrator available to lock this thread?
[/quote]

And that's my good deed done for the week.

[PYLdude]

[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'203453\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 03:17 PM\']
[quote name=\'JamesVipond\' post=\'203378\' date=\'Dec 10 2008, 06:42 PM\']
Having watched game show mock videos created by Michael Tiller and a couple of other YouTube users, I've decided to create at least one of my own. I'm starting with Super Pay Cards!, as it's a rather simple format.

I'm using a Mac mini with Poser 5, iMovie HD and NeoOffice. I already have the "contestants" and the first-round board. I'd be grateful for any sensible advice regarding this project.
[/quote]
Only if you allow Seanbaby to ruthlessly dissect it for lulz on his website.  (Does he even update that thing anymore?)
[/quote]

I'd have picked these guys, no offense.

[Joe Mello]

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'203424\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 10:24 AM\']I truly have a hard time wrapping my brain around any of it, because he's clearly got some real amount of functional skill....But just as clearly, this is somebody with significant mental problems.[/quote]
From these comments and my past personal experiences, it sounds like it could be Asperger syndrome.  Granted, I have pretty much no background in the medical sciences, so my 2 cents are devalued here, but that's what I can infer.

/There were a couple of kids in my high school who had Asperger's.
//They were nice, but annoying.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'203469\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 04:52 PM\']
From these comments and my past personal experiences, it sounds like it could be Asperger syndrome.  Granted, I have pretty much no background in the medical sciences, so my 2 cents are devalued here, but that's what I can infer.[/quote]
Dr. Mello, ladies and gentlemen.

[JayDLewis]

[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'203469\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 08:52 PM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'203424\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 10:24 AM\']I truly have a hard time wrapping my brain around any of it, because he's clearly got some real amount of functional skill....But just as clearly, this is somebody with significant mental problems.[/quote]
From these comments and my past personal experiences, it sounds like it could be Asperger syndrome.  Granted, I have pretty much no background in the medical sciences, so my 2 cents are devalued here, but that's what I can infer.

/There were a couple of kids in my high school who had Asperger's.
//They were nice, but annoying.
[/quote]

People with Asperger Syndrome and Autism tend to range from very high functioning (like a number of members of this board) to catatonic states. Of those who are "normal," a lack of social awareness is prevalent and their mental age is much lower than their chronological age.

Essentially, the mundane things we recognize (such as someone walking away at the end of a conversation) goes unrecognized (they follow and continue the conversation anyway). It's the little cues that most people pick up on they they just don't see.

But, hey, why let something like a mental or physical impairment stop us from making fun and casting judgment?

[TLEberle]

[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'203459\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 01:28 PM\']If you were actually hosting the thing and the game happenings were being played out live, then I'd be in the tent with this.[/quote]Naw. It would be as if I had pulled out my wooden blocks, built a set, found some Lego mens, got a camera and went to town.

I agree, if you had actual people playing an actual game, and not a guy reading from a script, typing in answers for the people who aren't there, and whatever else Michael does that I've forgotten, that would be great. (Of course, that also depends on the level of effort put into creating the game, the technical skill to operate the camera, and other things, but in general, it's an improvement.)

[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'203469\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 04:52 PM\']From these comments and my past personal experiences, it sounds like it could be Asperger syndrome.  Granted, I have pretty much no background in the medical sciences, so my 2 cents are devalued here, but that's what I can infer.[/quote]Why can't it just be "that annoying kid"? Why tag the medical evaluation there? If I were to do that sort of thing, I wouldn't classify it as a condition, it would just be me being a dink. I don't understand why there has to be a classification.

I'll set this off with another comment. If I were to introduce you to three different kids and they said:
1) "I can name the last twenty American League batting champions in order with their corresponding averages."
2) "I can name each member of Captain Napalm's Thermonuclear League of Liberty along with his super power, Achilles heel and main villain."
3) "I can recite the questions, answers and response for everyone who has ever reached the $1 million question on Who Wants to be a Millionaire,

How would you rank them in terms of strangeness, or geekiness, or what have you? For whatever reason, it is deemed "normal" or "acceptable" to have an interest in sports or comic books as a youth, but things like game shows must mean that there's some sort of deficiency going on and it must be addressed. And I don't buy it. Some people can just retain that kind of tabular information, and they choose to do geeky things instead of good or evil.

[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' post=\'203473\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 05:58 PM\']But, hey, why let something like a mental or physical impairment stop us from making fun and casting judgment?[/quote]You fail at logical reasoning. The judgment is because of the behavior, not because of the "impairment," if indeed one exists.

[comicus]

[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'203468\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 07:36 PM\']
[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'203453\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 03:17 PM\']
[quote name=\'JamesVipond\' post=\'203378\' date=\'Dec 10 2008, 06:42 PM\']
Having watched game show mock videos created by Michael Tiller and a couple of other YouTube users, I've decided to create at least one of my own. I'm starting with Super Pay Cards!, as it's a rather simple format.

I'm using a Mac mini with Poser 5, iMovie HD and NeoOffice. I already have the "contestants" and the first-round board. I'd be grateful for any sensible advice regarding this project.
[/quote]
Only if you allow Seanbaby to ruthlessly dissect it for lulz on his website.  (Does he even update that thing anymore?)
[/quote]

I'd have picked these guys, no offense.
[/quote]
I only mentioned Seanbaby because he has, shall we say, a pre-existing relationship with Mr. Vipond.  A Google search will tell the story.

[chris319]

People with Asperger Syndrome and Autism tend to range from very high functioning (like a number of members of this board)

Why, oh why?

Do boards devoted to wrestling or race car driving or souffle baking face the same situation?

[CarbonCpy]

I don't really have a problem with the idea of 'staging' something like this.  I mean, if the pitchfilm for Merv Griffin's Crosswords is any indication, there's a lot of it about.  My problem is that the people who are doing this are doing shows that have already existed.  Shows that weren't really that good to begin with.  I mean, Jesus, if you're going to put forth the effort to do something like this, at least go the extra mile and come up with your own show.

We're dealing with people who got out the chessboard and all of a sudden started playing wack-a-mole...

[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' post=\'203473\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 08:58 PM\']
But, hey, why let something like a mental or physical impairment stop us from making fun and casting judgment?
[/quote]

"[Asperger's] was introduced into the official classification systems in 1994 and has grown in popularity as a diagnosis, even though its validity has not been clearly established. It is interesting to note that it was introduced not so much as an indication of its status as a 'true' disorder, but more to stimulate research ... its validity is very much in question."

Asperger's is only in the limelight because that's currently the fashionable disease to diagnose ones' self and ones' children as having.

But hey, INTERNET, amirite?

[parliboy]

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'203479\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 10:09 PM\']

People with Asperger Syndrome and Autism tend to range from very high functioning (like a number of members of this board)

Why, oh why?

Do boards devoted to wrestling or race car driving or souffle baking face the same situation? [/quote]

Yes, they do.  (Speaking on wrestling -- I'll just assume on souffle baking).

Remember, we're talking about people who would, pre-internet, have kept their interests largely to their immediate area.  It's the difference between pretending you're emceeing a game show with your action figures as a kid and entertaining yourself for an afternoon versus making a video of Lego Joker's Wild for YouTube.

[ChrisLambert!]

[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'203474\' date=\'Dec 11 2008, 09:20 PM\']
 For whatever reason, it is deemed "normal" or "acceptable" to have an interest in sports or comic books as a youth, but things like game shows must mean that there's some sort of deficiency going on and it must be addressed.
[/quote]

I question this. Granted, my game show geekiness hampered my social life considerably in school (as in, I let it be my focus rather than a geekiness category that might have allowed me a larger social circle), but nobody in authority thought my basing as many projects (essays, art class, et al) under a game show umbrella as I could was something that needed to be addressed.

/Sure wish they'd've been realistic about my chances at a TV career, though