Author Topic: Syndie Outlook (Read 8897 times)

calliaume · « **Reply #15 on:** January 11, 2009, 11:36:42 AM »

[quote name=\'GS Guy\' post=\'206001\' date=\'Jan 11 2009, 03:47 AM\']
Interesting how some people are interested in watching reruns of classic game shows. You do realize that in so doing, the odds of selling new game shows in syndication dwindle because it looks like people don't want new products. I would think there would be support for the new game shows so that there would be more.
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Depends on how good they are. One of the reasons Goodson-Todman started brining back classics in the '70s was, frankly, they were running out of ideas for new shows. Some they had to start from scratch, others didn't require any tinkering at all. But it was a lot more fun to watch those than, say, Joe Garagiola's Memory Game or Blank Check.

In today's economic market, virtually every syndicated program is double run (triple runs are new to me). I'm simply arguing that, if this is going to happen, let's get the product that we like and that might help build up more demand for it than another daily episode of Judge Whoever.

rugrats1 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 11, 2009, 12:02:05 PM »

[quote name=\'calliaume\' post=\'206011\' date=\'Jan 11 2009, 11:36 AM\']One of the reasons Goodson-Todman started brining back classics in the '70s was, frankly, they were running out of ideas for new shows. Some they had to start from scratch, others didn't require any tinkering at all.
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No doubt they had to retool the classics to compete with the game shows on the other networks -- "The Price Is Right" became G-T's response to "Let's Make a Deal"; the 70s "Match Game" was G-T's "Hollywood Squares"; even "Tattle Tales" (formerly "He Said She said") was practically "The Newlywed Game" with bells and whistles.

rugrats1 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 11, 2009, 12:05:40 PM »

[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' post=\'206002\' date=\'Jan 11 2009, 04:21 AM\']
Ack! First CBS has the gumshoe to pull M$P from its schedule, now we hear talk of stations TRIPPLE-RUNNING some shows next fall?
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Maybe Fremantle should consider putting Password into syndication -- at least it'll be one less judge show on the schedule. Or at the least, put "Crosswords" out of its misery.

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #18 on:** January 11, 2009, 12:31:44 PM »

[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' post=\'206002\' date=\'Jan 11 2009, 04:21 AM\']
Ack! First CBS has the gumshoe to pull M$P from its schedule[/quote]
One of the more entertaining recent losers on Words Have Meanings.

chad1m · « **Reply #19 on:** January 11, 2009, 12:46:31 PM »

[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' post=\'206002\' date=\'Jan 11 2009, 04:21 AM\']gumshoe[/quote]Not a big Carmen Sandiego fan, eh?

MikeK · « **Reply #20 on:** January 11, 2009, 01:16:53 PM »

[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' post=\'206002\' date=\'Jan 11 2009, 04:21 AM\']Ack! First CBS has the gumshoe to pull M$P from its schedule[/quote]
Gumption! *CLANG!*

LEVEL 6, FIVE HUNDRED!

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What a way to start 2009 for me. YUCK!

If this is the worst thing to happen to you this year, you've had a mighty fine year thus far.

Yuck indeed.

Kniwt · « **Reply #21 on:** January 11, 2009, 01:30:13 PM »

[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'206021\' date=\'Jan 11 2009, 10:16 AM\']
Gumption! *CLANG!*

LEVEL 6, FIVE HUNDRED!
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A combination guaranteed to make me say ... hahahahahahaha. Winner!

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #22 on:** January 11, 2009, 02:14:22 PM »

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'205977\' date=\'Jan 10 2009, 07:58 PM\']
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'205972\' date=\'Jan 10 2009, 06:51 PM\']In my market, J! runs on the CBS affil at night and on the co-owned MYTV affil in the daytime. The ep on the MY station is one from the previous season.[/quote]
Aside from it being on two different stations, that's pretty much the standard for the Jeopardy package. Many stations that carry the show also air reruns from same-time-last-year in another time slot. I don't know any that run them back to back, since most stations pair it with Wheel.

Frankly, I've always felt that double-runs cheapen a show, and there very well may be a clause in the KingWorld contracts that says you can't do it with Wheel or Jeopardy. If not, it seems like we'd see a lot of stations air, say, an hour of Wheel before the news and an hour of Jeopardy after.
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I also don't see the value of the double run. The DOND station in my market runs it at 5 and 5:30. It's early January. If you watched it everyday for an hour, wouldn't you have seen most of the run by now?

clemon79 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 11, 2009, 02:32:17 PM »

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'206018\' date=\'Jan 11 2009, 09:31 AM\']
One of the more entertaining recent losers on Words Have Meanings.[/quote]
I actually bothered to Google the phrase to see if *I* was missing something. When I discovered I wasn't, a small part of me died inside, despite knowing who the OP was.

clemon79 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 11, 2009, 02:33:19 PM »

[quote name=\'GS Guy\' post=\'206001\' date=\'Jan 10 2009, 11:47 PM\']
Ratings aside...[/quote]
Really? I mean, REALLY?

I can't possibly see why I would care if I lost my job. I mean, loss of income aside...

NickintheATL · « **Reply #25 on:** January 11, 2009, 02:35:13 PM »

Let me reiterate for all of the people in this thread commenting on MDP's cancellation... that is not 100% official yet.

/Just some clarification
//Stay tuned for the triple-run ep of "Words Have Meanings" next over most of these stations

Unrealtor · « **Reply #26 on:** January 11, 2009, 02:35:28 PM »

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'205977\' date=\'Jan 10 2009, 06:58 PM\']
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'205972\' date=\'Jan 10 2009, 06:51 PM\']In my market, J! runs on the CBS affil at night and on the co-owned MYTV affil in the daytime. The ep on the MY station is one from the previous season.[/quote]
Aside from it being on two different stations, that's pretty much the standard for the Jeopardy package. Many stations that carry the show also air reruns from same-time-last-year in another time slot. I don't know any that run them back to back, since most stations pair it with Wheel.

Frankly, I've always felt that double-runs cheapen a show, and there very well may be a clause in the KingWorld contracts that says you can't do it with Wheel or Jeopardy. If not, it seems like we'd see a lot of stations air, say, an hour of Wheel before the news and an hour of Jeopardy after.
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Here in Central time, where there's only half an hour of prime access after the local news, our local station airs a J! double run at 4:00 (old) and 4:30 (new) and Wheel at 6:30.

GS Guy · « **Reply #27 on:** January 11, 2009, 02:48:46 PM »

The point of the post was to get people's feedback on the shows themselves, not the "well, the ratings are not great so why should we support it". There have been MANY good shows which have been canceled prematurely due to bad ratings or other factors. I think we can all think of shows that we thought were good but did not have a long shelf life. For me, Now You See It comes to mind, and that was tried twice. Lest we forget how close to cancellation WOF was in the 70s. There have been many cases where shows which had not so great ratings were kept alive (Cheers) and prospered. I am simply asking if this group believes that both, either, or neither of the new syndie offerings of this year deserves it, which is why I included ratings aside remark.

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #28 on:** January 11, 2009, 03:25:45 PM »

Fun thread!
[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'206027\' date=\'Jan 11 2009, 02:35 PM\']//Stay tuned for the triple-run ep of "Words Have Meanings" next over most of these stations[/quote]Our plan is to run the same episode three times in a row, so the content sinks in, people!

[quote name=\'GS Guy\' post=\'206030\' date=\'Jan 11 2009, 02:48 PM\']There have been MANY good shows which have been canceled prematurely due to bad ratings or other factors. ....which is why I included ratings aside remark.[/quote]Fair enough. I think Trivia Pursuit moves too slowly and has too few questions to engage a trivia fan, especially one who has Jeopardy already, and though there seem to be some people who like the purity of the basic game, I find DOND without the prime time frills to be dull and redundant.

[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'206021\' date=\'Jan 11 2009, 01:16 PM\'][quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' post=\'206002\' date=\'Jan 11 2009, 04:21 AM\']Ack! First CBS has the gumshoe to pull M$P from its schedule[/quote]
Gumption! *CLANG!*

LEVEL 6, FIVE HUNDRED![/quote]
That. Was. Awesome. I laughed aloud.

NickintheATL · « **Reply #29 on:** January 11, 2009, 03:33:23 PM »

[quote name=\'GS Guy\' post=\'206030\' date=\'Jan 11 2009, 02:48 PM\']
The point of the post was to get people's feedback on the shows themselves, not the "well, the ratings are not great so why should we support it".
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<Bzzzzz!> No, sorry, the correct answer was "breaking news."

Author Topic: Syndie Outlook (Read 8897 times)

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