Author Topic: Progressive Jackpots (Read 14402 times)

Tony Peters · « **Reply #30 on:** February 02, 2009, 11:28:48 AM »

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Aw geez, (you know the rest...)

As for the topic, the best such jackpot implementation I've ever seen is Aussie Temptation's (I detest having to qualify this: why, FMNA, did you have to make our version such garbage?) Ten Right cash jackpot format. My ideal $ale of the Century revival would use this bonus format combined with the classic shopping endgame (theoretically an excellent champion could win over $1,000,000 without cheapening the spirit of the game as we know and love it).

clemon79 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 02, 2009, 11:35:33 AM »

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As for the topic, the best such jackpot implementation I've ever seen is Aussie Temptation's (I detest having to qualify this: why, FMNA, did you have to make our version such garbage?) Ten Right cash jackpot format.[/quote]
Personally, I liked the climbing money ladder in Ten In A Row better, but I understand how people might have thought it was broken, seeing as you bomb one at the end and you're screwed.

The Ten Right format with the climbing money ladder would have been ideal to me.

PYLdude · « **Reply #32 on:** February 02, 2009, 02:12:26 PM »

[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'207397\' date=\'Feb 2 2009, 08:06 AM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'207352\' date=\'Feb 1 2009, 04:33 PM\']Craig could've found it out...what with this big thing called the Internet and all...[/quote]Anything can be found out using the internet.

I'm fairly certain you've asked a few questions in your time on the board, and I don't think anyone has hopped on your case for doing so.
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Mark defending Karlberg. Wow. Never thought I'd see the day.

My point was that yeah, I'll ask a question, but I don't usually ask unless I can't find the info out somewhere else OR there's someone here with specific knowledge on what I want to know. Craig never seems to want to be bothered to do so.

fishbulb · « **Reply #33 on:** February 02, 2009, 02:22:19 PM »

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What about the way Hot Potato did it, by having the jackpot progress only for returning champions? That removed the "swooping in" part, though the jackpot never grew that high.
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Maybe this hasn't been mentioned because we're just assuming everyone knows it, but $20K Pyramid also reset the jackpot for each champion. First game was $10K, second $15K, and $20K after that.

PYLdude · « **Reply #34 on:** February 02, 2009, 02:25:56 PM »

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[quote name=\'CarShark\' post=\'207237\' date=\'Jan 30 2009, 03:57 PM\']
What about the way Hot Potato did it, by having the jackpot progress only for returning champions? That removed the "swooping in" part, though the jackpot never grew that high.
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Maybe this hasn't been mentioned because we're just assuming everyone knows it, but $20K Pyramid also reset the jackpot for each champion. First game was $10K, second $15K, and $20K after that.
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I'm a little surprised someone didn't mention it...but hey.

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I distinctly remember a story about a Classic Concentration contestant who plowed through 6 of the necessary 7 matches in the bonus round and basically said "I'm going to stop here so I can win more prizes."

Three guesses as to how this story ends, and the first two don't count. (Hint: He lost the next game.)

Karma's a bitch, I guess.

Why do that? Unless the car he would've had left was a complete and utter POS (Yugo) I couldn't grasp that concept.

Jeremy Nelson · « **Reply #35 on:** February 02, 2009, 02:54:43 PM »

[quote name=\'fishbulb\' post=\'207418\' date=\'Feb 2 2009, 01:22 PM\']
Maybe this hasn't been mentioned because we're just assuming everyone knows it, but $20K Pyramid also reset the jackpot for each champion. First game was $10K, second $15K, and $20K after that.
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Yeah, but on $20K Pyramid, didn't you retire after a Winner's Circle win? If so, then I would have inverted the money system, and given the $20K for a win the first time out, and then gone down from there. But then again, it's not my prize budget.

Or just keep both players on for the entire show, playing both WCs for $10K.

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #36 on:** February 02, 2009, 03:03:46 PM »

[quote name=\'fishbulb\' post=\'207418\' date=\'Feb 2 2009, 02:22 PM\']Maybe this hasn't been mentioned because we're just assuming everyone knows it, but $20K Pyramid also reset the jackpot for each champion. First game was $10K, second $15K, and $20K after that.[/quote]
That also goes to the point about rewarding players who don't do as well. If you're the greatest Pyramid player in the world, then you win your first Winner's Circle and you "only" go home with $10,000. If you're not quite as good, you struggle and eventually win, for which you earn twice as much. Something about that struck me as wrong even in 1976. I'm not sure I'd go so far as to call it "unfair", just "wrong".

PYLdude · « **Reply #37 on:** February 02, 2009, 03:06:31 PM »

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Yeah, but on $20K Pyramid, didn't you retire after a Winner's Circle win?
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Yes.

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If so, then I would have inverted the money system, and given the $20K for a win the first time out, and then gone down from there. But then again, it's not my prize budget.

And it's also the stupidest idea I've ever heard.

Why are you going to PENALIZE someone for going to the Winner's Circle and losing? That may be the worst possible thing you could do, and good luck getting contestants to agree to that.

clemon79 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 02, 2009, 03:19:44 PM »

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and good luck getting contestants to agree to that.[/quote]
Huh?

Dbacksfan12 · « **Reply #39 on:** February 02, 2009, 03:27:58 PM »

[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'207419\' date=\'Feb 2 2009, 02:25 PM\']Why do that? Unless the car he would've had left was a complete and utter POS (Yugo) [/quote]I think it was just for the reason he stated--he wanted to win more stuff, which obviously backfired.

I personally think Scrabble did it in one of the best ways, but it wouldn't compel me to watch more.

PYLdude · « **Reply #40 on:** February 02, 2009, 03:37:43 PM »

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and good luck getting contestants to agree to that.[/quote]
Huh?
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You're joking, right?

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #41 on:** February 02, 2009, 03:43:18 PM »

[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'207429\' date=\'Feb 2 2009, 03:37 PM\']You're joking, right?[/quote]
No, he's not. Contestants agree to the rules of the game, whatever those rules are. If I wanted to play Pyramid, and the payouts got worse over time, I'd think to myself "wow, that's a screwy way to do it" but I'd still want to play. There isn't a shortage of contestants who want to be on game shows. "Getting them to agree" to the rules isn't an issue.

PYLdude · « **Reply #42 on:** February 02, 2009, 03:50:21 PM »

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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'207429\' date=\'Feb 2 2009, 03:37 PM\']You're joking, right?[/quote]
No, he's not. Contestants agree to the rules of the game, whatever those rules are. If I wanted to play Pyramid, and the payouts got worse over time, I'd think to myself "wow, that's a screwy way to do it" but I'd still want to play. There isn't a shortage of contestants who want to be on game shows. "Getting them to agree" to the rules isn't an issue.
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Well, then, I believe we differ.

I'm one of the non-shortage, so to speak, but there's no way in hell that I'd agree to be on a game show that reduces the potential prize I'd play for every time I went back if I was unsuccessful.

clemon79 · « **Reply #43 on:** February 02, 2009, 04:24:11 PM »

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Well, then, I believe we differ.[/quote]
I am Jack's lack of surprise.

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I'm one of the non-shortage, so to speak, but there's no way in hell that I'd agree to be on a game show that reduces the potential prize I'd play for every time I went back if I was unsuccessful.

So you're in it for the money. Your choice, of course, but this should provide a pretty good illustration of why you've flamed out at the game-show auditions you've gone to.

Don Howard · « **Reply #44 on:** February 02, 2009, 04:30:06 PM »

[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'207428\' date=\'Feb 2 2009, 03:27 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'207419\' date=\'Feb 2 2009, 02:25 PM\']Why do that? Unless the car he would've had left was a complete and utter POS (Yugo) [/quote]I think it was just for the reason he stated--he wanted to win more stuff, which obviously backfired.
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He needed only one more match and had about seven seconds to make it with just three numbers of the fifteen on the board. At this point, the oaf said, "I have to wait because I want some more PRIZES! (giggle) (clap)". He said a few more things along the same theme but I missed them because I was too busy saying, "You're an ass" and didn't feel like backing up to hear them. Alex did say that if he'd made the match, he'd have been in line for the Tournament Of Champions where he may have indeed won some more PRIZES!
The original rule was the champion wasn't retired until the fifth win, regardless whether a car or cars was won. That later changed to win a car and you're goneski.
These are the types of players who think they're bigger than the game (that annoying Wendy woman is another who comes to mind...I'd like to take a hot iron to the wench) who make me want to grab an axe and do some bludgeoning.