Author Topic: TPiR Feburary 9th ratings (top 25 markets) (Read 25477 times)

Casey Buck · « **on:** February 12, 2009, 01:13:42 AM »

TVC at golden-road.net apparently had access to Monday's ratings for TPiR in the top 25 markets. Here they are (the ratings are separated into the first half and second half hours):

New York (WCBS): 1.2/1.4

Los Angeles (KCBS): 1.9/2.3

Chicago (WBBM): 2.5/3.3

Philladelphia (KYW): 2.6/3.4

Dallas-Fort Worth (KTVT): 2.6/2.4

San Francisco (KPIX): 1.3/1.9

Boston (WBZ): 4.5/4.3

Atlanta (WGCL): 1.6/1.5

Washington, D.C. (WUSA): 0.7/1.1

Houston (KHOU): 2.4/3.5

Detroit (WWJ): 2.0/3.3

Phoenix (KPHO): 2.0/1.9

Tampa (WTSP): 1.7/2.3

Seattle (KIRO): 2.1/2.5

Minneapolis (WCCO): 5.5/6.2

Miami (WFOR): 2.3/3.0

Cleveland (WOIO): 2.7/3.2

Denver (KCNC): 2.6/2.4

Orlando (WKMG): 3.3/3.6

Sacramento (KOVR): 3.1/3.8

Saint Louis (KMOV): 2.2/3.3

Portland (KOIN): 1.5/3.2

Pittsburgh (KDKA): 4.2/6.1

Charlotte (WBTV): 3.5/4.5

Indianapolis (WISH): 3.9/4.4

Craig Karlberg · « **Reply #1 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:15:09 AM »

If we're to believe that a rating of 2 is considered "decent" for a network show, then places like New York & San Fransisco are struggling while those like Pittsburgh & Minneapolis/St.Paul get very good ratings. Putting into perspective for my area, KYW here in Philly seems to be doing OK.

It's not just the TPIR numbers at KDKA that jump out at you. Their newscasts get even bigger numbrs than TPIR. In fact, their 11PM newscasts got a whopping 13.1. That's what happens when community loyalty rears its positive head here. Methinks more stations should "rediscover" this. Same affect may be occuring in places like Minneapolis & Boston too.

Joe Mello · « **Reply #2 on:** February 12, 2009, 04:23:39 AM »

My initial thoughts on the subject: Let's use statistics! So I did. (Not sure which is sadder; wanting to do stats first or actually doing it)

1st half-hour: Average, 2.56; St. Dev, 1.14
2nd half-hour: Average, 3.15; St. Dev, 1.29
Combined: Average, 2.854; St. Dev, 1.23

For what it's worth, you can do worse than Price.

Robair · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2009, 05:24:03 AM »

One thing to remember looking at those figures is that the show was not fully cleared in New York...there was a news conference televised so a lot of people probably bailed on Price that morning and went to seek solace in Cableville.

mmb5 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2009, 09:06:17 AM »

[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'207990\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 04:23 AM\']
My initial thoughts on the subject: Let's use statistics! So I did. (Not sure which is sadder; wanting to do stats first or actually doing it)

1st half-hour: Average, 2.56; St. Dev, 1.14
2nd half-hour: Average, 3.15; St. Dev, 1.29
Combined: Average, 2.854; St. Dev, 1.23

For what it's worth, you can do worse than Price.
[/quote]
You really can't do that. The market sizes aren't equal. For example, New York has more viewers than the last six markets (Sacramento through Indianapolis) combined.

--Mike

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #5 on:** February 12, 2009, 10:04:55 AM »

What did "The View" get?

BrandonFG · « **Reply #6 on:** February 12, 2009, 01:58:17 PM »

In Market 44 (Norfolk/Newport News/Virginia Beach), the show pulls a 3.04/3.35, behind The View and narrowly beating The 700 Club on the ABC and NBC affiliates, respectively. On average for February, the show averages about a mid-3 rating.

FWIW, the February numbers show a sizable increase compared to that of Feb. 2008...

Joe Mello · « **Reply #7 on:** February 12, 2009, 08:05:33 PM »

[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'207995\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 09:06 AM\']You really can't do that. The market sizes aren't equal.[/quote]
I thought about that this afternoon, but hey, it's not bad for 4 in the morning, right?

If I wanted a full dissection, I would probably need ratings for everything that airs between 10:30 and 12:30 in each market as well as weighting for each market.

clemon79 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 12, 2009, 08:38:10 PM »

[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'208044\' date=\'Feb 12 2009, 05:05 PM\']
I thought about that this afternoon, but hey, it's not bad for 4 in the morning, right?[/quote]
If by "not bad" you mean "utterly worthless data", then sure, "not bad."

TimK2003 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 12, 2009, 09:05:12 PM »

Here in Colorado, TPIR airs at either 9AM, 10AM or 11AM MT depending on which part of the state you live in:

9AM: Grand Junction/NW Colorado*: against Regis & Today

10AM: Denver/NE Colorado: against The View and Colorado & Company (a local "Today")

10AM: Colorado Springs/Pueblo/SE Colorado: against the View & Today

11AM: Albequerque/Santa Fe/SW Colorado*: against Bonnie Hunt and Good Day, NM (another local "Today")

Without the help of the ratings books I would make a guess that TPIR is #1 west of Colorado's Continental Divide (-*), and The View probably edges out Price on the east.

tpirfan28 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 13, 2009, 09:04:17 AM »

The South Bend/Elkhart, IN market (DMA 108) got TPIR nearly fully pre-empted for President Obama's visit to Elkhart. The other stations broke in for a few minutes (his landing at the airport) and then went back to programming.

CarShark · « **Reply #11 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:57:56 PM »

I'm more interested in seeing if the young female demo ratings have increased since the introduction of more designer label fashions. Isn't that more important for a daytime TV show?

JasonA1 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 14, 2009, 01:49:10 PM »

[quote name=\'CarShark\' post=\'208129\' date=\'Feb 13 2009, 08:57 PM\']
I'm more interested in seeing if the young female demo ratings have increased since the introduction of more designer label fashions. Isn't that more important for a daytime TV show?
[/quote]

I don't hate the designer stuff categorically, but it's clear nobody can price it. When they did a bunch of designer stuff as a "designer wardrobe" prize package in one of the grocery/small prize games, it was cool. As a random item in Danger Price, it'd be cool (the Danger Price is something small, and you find out the designer boots are $3000 - shock and awe!). But as IUFBs where nobody bids close, it's getting old.

Maybe even have them as part of a showcase where the models come down a runway, and it pulls apart to show off a sleek/luxury car as the last prize. It'd be severely underbid on, but it wouldn't be a horrible theme.

-Jason

CarShark · « **Reply #13 on:** February 14, 2009, 08:13:52 PM »

[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'208161\' date=\'Feb 14 2009, 01:49 PM\']I don't hate the designer stuff categorically, but it's clear nobody can price it. When they did a bunch of designer stuff as a "designer wardrobe" prize package in one of the grocery/small prize games, it was cool. As a random item in Danger Price, it'd be cool (the Danger Price is something small, and you find out the designer boots are $3000 - shock and awe!). But as IUFBs where nobody bids close, it's getting old.[/quote]Actually, it doesn't seem to be just the designer duds. The IUFBs have been quite expensive the last couple weeks, including a $5K+ dude ranch vacation and a $5K+ wicker lounger. It seems that more and more of them are above $2000 in price...which strikes me as odd, because I thought the show was facing a bit of a budget crunch. I would think that one of the easiest ways to save money would be to cheapen the six items you know are going to be awarded to someone. The prizes given to contestants not appearing on stage seem to be much better than the standard fare I'd gotten used to, but since those are always plugged it's probably a wash.

Fedya · « **Reply #14 on:** February 14, 2009, 09:04:15 PM »

A $5K wicker lounger?

Perhaps the producers were budgeting in the hope that the prize was going to be declined. You could probably buy a decent wicker lounger (or one in a material you prefer) for less than you'd pay in taxes on the TPIR schlock.