CBS Cancels Guiding Light

[Scrabbleship]

[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'211513\' date=\'Mar 30 2009, 01:55 PM\']
[quote name=\'SteveR\' post=\'211511\' date=\'Mar 30 2009, 01:31 PM\']
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'211508\' date=\'Mar 30 2009, 01:17 PM\']
In today's economy, a station might consider a network show to a syndicated one that they have to purchase, especially if local advertisers are not as buying as many spots as they used to.
[/quote]Isn't there a barter aspect to most syndicated acquisitions? That allows the station to keep 100% of the revenues from the local ad avail spots in the show.

The network show might not make that kind of arrangement offer.
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Way back when (the 70's at least) CBS gave a minute of local avails in the 10 or 10:30 show.  IIRC, it usually came in the first break of the show.  If your station didn't sell it, you'd see network-fed PSAs.  Maybe they could make that sort of deal again.
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I think this continued into at least the early 80's. I remember seeing some $25K Pyramid and PYL episodes with PSA blocks and/or local ads in the first break.

[TroubadourNando]

I can't help but wonder just a little if this has any kind of relation to that thing Fremantle was talking about regarding the Goodson properties...

[weaklink75]

I'd think the givebacks to the stations is most likely, but it does make the syndication market interesting for early 2010. WWTBAM doesn't have an affiliate in Baltimore for example- the CBS affiliate there might pick it up (they're airing GL at 10AM as has been mentioned).

If CBS does want to keep the hour, they might want to go one revival/one new format- I think a good new format might be "Perfect Recall": players have to go through several rounds of questions- but although the questions change each round, the answers don't.

[comicus]

Hold your breath, please, if you think there's any chance that the hour will be programmed with network game shows instead of being given back to the affiliates.

Seriously.

[TroubadourNando]

[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'211556\' date=\'Mar 30 2009, 09:02 PM\']
Hold your breath, please, if you think there's any chance that the hour will be programmed with network game shows instead of being given back to the affiliates.

Seriously.
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I wouldn't call it totally impossible, just unlikely. Impossible would be if the article didn't mention 'game shows' and 'under consideration' in the same sentence.

[chris319]

Game shows still carry with them the "older demographic" baggage.

[Loogaroo]

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'211565\' date=\'Mar 30 2009, 10:29 PM\']
Game shows still carry with them the "older demographic" baggage.
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Exactly what sorts of people do they expect to be watching TV at that time of day anyway? The 25-39ers out there are either at work making the disposable income necessary to spend on whatever the advertisers would be selling, or don't have that sort of income to begin with.

[Jamey Greek]

WKMG in Orlando airs Guiding Light at 10 AM every day before TPIR.  If it gets cancelled I am sure it could be replaced with a daytime game show.  It sure would make up for WKMG preempting $25k Pyramid, PYL, Eubanks CS, and Combs Family Feud 10-20 years ago.

[SteveR]

I think one key thing to consider is that, regardless of what the affiliates do, CBS is going to make its decision based on 3:00 being the hour that's being vacated. On CBS's schedule, 10:00 is already a 'local' hour.

That's what makes me think that it's going to be returned, not re-programmed.

[aaron sica]

[quote name=\'SteveR\' post=\'211592\' date=\'Mar 31 2009, 01:48 PM\']
I think one key thing to consider is that, regardless of what the affiliates do, CBS is going to make its decision based on 3:00 being the hour that's being vacated. On CBS's schedule, 10:00 is already a 'local' hour.

That's what makes me think that it's going to be returned, not re-programmed.
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Although it hasn't been mentioned yet, and as much as I'd like to see an extra hour of TPIR classic shows, I also wonder something else. Maybe this is the opportunity Bill Bell has been waiting for -  to finally expand B&B to an hour. CBS would give the 12:30-1pm (EST) half hour back to affiliates, bump Y&R to 1pm, and air B&B where GL was, from 3-4pm or 10-11am or whatever.

[calliaume]

[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'211594\' date=\'Mar 31 2009, 12:59 PM\']
Although it hasn't been mentioned yet, and as much as I'd like to see an extra hour of TPIR classic shows, I also wonder something else. Maybe this is the opportunity Bill Bell has been waiting for -  to finally expand B&B to an hour. CBS would give the 12:30-1pm (EST) half hour back to affiliates, bump Y&R to 1pm, and air B&B where GL was, from 3-4pm or 10-11am or whatever.
[/quote]
Well, was waiting for, anyway -- Bill Bell died almost four years ago.  Somebody mentioned eons ago that he had the next commitment, but judging by this article I think that's gone by the boards.

[colonial]

Given the state of the daytime drama genre, I doubt B&B will get an additional 30 minutes.  Without Y&R as a lead-in, B&B would be in the same ratings shape as most of the remaining sudsers.  If we had this conversation 4-5 years ago, it would be a different story.

JD

[aaron sica]

[quote name=\'calliaume\' post=\'211598\' date=\'Mar 31 2009, 02:13 PM\']
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'211594\' date=\'Mar 31 2009, 12:59 PM\']
Although it hasn't been mentioned yet, and as much as I'd like to see an extra hour of TPIR classic shows, I also wonder something else. Maybe this is the opportunity Bill Bell has been waiting for -  to finally expand B&B to an hour. CBS would give the 12:30-1pm (EST) half hour back to affiliates, bump Y&R to 1pm, and air B&B where GL was, from 3-4pm or 10-11am or whatever.
[/quote]
Well, was waiting for, anyway -- Bill Bell died almost four years ago.  Somebody mentioned eons ago that he had the next commitment, but judging by this article I think that's gone by the boards.
[/quote]

Wow, I guess I should stick to game shows then - I had no idea he had passed. Yes, definitely scratch B&B off the board.

[gsgalaxy82]

Also, B&B has a much smaller cast compared to other daytime soaps. It's been said that's why it has stuck to a half hour rather than an hour for all these years. If they had wanted to expand it ,they probably would have at this point.

[Neumms]

The B&B scenario sounds most plausible to me. Expanding a show would sure be cheaper and a safer bet than mounting a new one. And giving half an hour to the affiliates will pacify them while letting CBS keep half an hour.

But, golly, it would be neat to see "Two-Thousand Dollar Password."