"Backtimed" Themes

[TimK2003]

First off, to those not in the radio &/or TV biz, "Backtiming" is when a piece of music or song starts at a certain time in order to finish at an exact time, or "mark".  

In radio, some songs (especially on satellite-fed networks) are backtimed so the songs end EXACTLY at the top of the hour, or 5-10 seconds before to allow for a legal ID.

Anyhoo, back to game shows:

What shows would start rolling their theme music so that the music's ending would match the official ending of the show?  And which shows did it "all-natural" -- without switching to a second music source which provided the last few seconds of the theme, like "Bullseye" often did?

[Jimmy Owen]

The original "Jeopardy" and "Who, What or Where"

[BrandonFG]

All of the current syndie games backtime their themes...at least I think all of them do, not sure about TP: AP.

From memory:
-Pitfall
-The Gary Kroeger season of Newlywed Game
-TTTT00
-Russian Roulette

And I think most British shows do so as well. Personally, I'm not a fan of the practice, but that's just me.

[Chief-O]

Most of the Nick shows. I know DD and "Make the Grade" for sure. Believe "Finders Keepers" did it as well.

[Jeremy Nelson]

[quote name=\'Chief-O\' post=\'218124\' date=\'Jun 15 2009, 10:41 PM\']Most of the Nick shows. I know DD and "Make the Grade" for sure. Believe "Finders Keepers" did it as well.[/quote]
Wait...I'm pretty sure they just played the Finders Keepers theme in a loop until the credits were done, and even then, the credits' ending didn't match up with the theme's "ending"

But then again, I could be wrong.

[BrandonFG]

[quote name=\'Chief-O\' post=\'218124\' date=\'Jun 15 2009, 11:41 PM\']Most of the Nick shows. I know DD and "Make the Grade" for sure. Believe "Finders Keepers" did it as well.[/quote]
I seem to remember that as well, but it's been 20 years since I've seen Finders Keepers. Add Get the Picture, Arcade, and Guts to the list.

[CarShark]

From the many episodes I saw on Nick Games and Sports, the Eure episodes were backtimed, but the syndie Toffler episodes weren't.

[Joe Mello]

[quote name=\'Chief-O\' post=\'218124\' date=\'Jun 15 2009, 11:41 PM\']Most of the Nick shows.[/quote]
I'm pretty sure you can exclude Legends of the Hidden Temple

/ObGS: You can probably still hear Dee Bradley Baker (voice of Olmec) on Nick somewhere doing voices for another show

[WhammyPower]

[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'218137\' date=\'Jun 16 2009, 02:20 AM\']/ObGS: You can probably still hear Dee Bradley Baker (voice of Olmec) on Nick somewhere doing voices for another show[/quote]
He does a few voices on SpongeBob (Wiki says Squilliam Fancyson and Bubble Bass).

/Also, he's Klaus the fish on American Dad

[ChuckNet]

I'm told Trebek HR did this for a few weeks in the summer of 1979, as well.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")

[Robair]

The last few weeks of "The Big Showdown" did. "Hollywood's Talking" also did. And I believe "Take a Good Look" also was a culprit with its original swingtime theme.

[Ian Wallis]

The last episode of Dream House in '84 did!  Too bad NBC had to cut most of it off with their "coming up next" voice-over promos and background music.

Most of the Canadian shows produced in Montreal for CTV did, but the ones from Toronto and Vancouver usually didn't.

[GrandMasterGalvatron]

Ouicksilver and Free 4 All both did this IIRC.

If Merv Griffin's Crosswords hasn't been mentioned, that's one as well.

[Gus]

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'218111\' date=\'Jun 15 2009, 08:08 PM\']not sure about TP: AP.[/quote]
It does, but I wouldn't be surprised if they add it in post on that one because IIRC there're no audience nats during it.

Speaking of editing in post, they once had to re-send an episode because it was originally sent with a few seconds of it, that was supposed to have been a cutaway shot, reading "MEDIA OFFLINE".

[Ian Wallis]

I guess this thread begs another question:

which bugs you more - never hearing the end of a theme; or never hearing the beginning?