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« Reply #75 on: October 07, 2009, 09:10:12 PM »
One of the things that made it tough to select a B&E show (almost forgot Back That Fact, which ABC dropped after just a couple of airings, and You're On Your Own was forced to make a format switch), was that the shows Joker316 picked (which I agree with) were, if I recall, totally under Dan's supervision. IIRC, Hot Potato was the last project Barry oversaw, and it's tough to throw blame on Barry when he had little or no input with them. Jack has always struck me as the developer/refiner, and Dan was the director/facilitator to make the project run smoothly. I'd like to know if Dan had a major hand in inventing when he was working with Screen Gems in Canada, or if he took other peoples' ideas and shaped them.

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« Reply #76 on: October 07, 2009, 10:19:33 PM »
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'228014\' date=\'Oct 7 2009, 08:27 PM\'][quote name=\'joker316\' post=\'228001\' date=\'Oct 7 2009, 02:37 PM\']Griffin: Ruckus, just because it stole Reach for the Stars as the end round! Which made it go from bad to worse![/quote] How can you steal from yourself?

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Fremantle: CS'01 - Just for the audacity of reviving CS in name only!
I don't know who started the "Card Sharks in Name Only" thing, but I'd love to go back in time and give that person a strongly wagged finger for it.
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* Runs and finds a hiding place *

/ *pout* Well it WAS in name only... *pout*
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« Reply #77 on: October 08, 2009, 05:14:56 AM »
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« Reply #78 on: October 08, 2009, 05:20:54 AM »
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« Reply #79 on: October 08, 2009, 05:42:36 PM »
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'228014\' date=\'Oct 7 2009, 08:27 PM\'][quote name=\'joker316\' post=\'228001\' date=\'Oct 7 2009, 02:37 PM\']Griffin: Ruckus, just because it stole Reach for the Stars as the end round! Which made it go from bad to worse![/quote] How can you steal from yourself?

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Fremantle: CS'01 - Just for the audacity of reviving CS in name only!
I don't know who started the "Card Sharks in Name Only" thing, but I'd love to go back in time and give that person a strongly wagged finger for it.
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Fine Travis, I accept that (after all Words Have Meanings!). I meant to say that when you have a bad idea, and you add another bad idea to it, you get an even worse idea!

/Now I'm gonna pout too, because CS'01 was in name only!
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« Reply #80 on: October 08, 2009, 07:57:18 PM »
G-T/MGP: Body Language - the ratings began to decrease really quickly after the regular game resume with the $500 bonus being added to Round 2 and the scoring system was weird. That $500 bonus in Round 2 was what caused the cancellation and didn't make it beyond December 1985.

B&E: All About The Opposite Sex - somehow it's more of a relationship game show that's perfect for Chuck Barris but not for this company.

Chuck Barris Enterprises: $1.98 Beauty Show - Somehow it's more like the Miss America Pageant. I don't know why Barris come up with the idea to have a pageant. Also, Camouflage, it's more like Where's Waldo with the outline tracing.

Merv Griffin Enterprises: Headline Chasers - Well, simply too little going on, but the Winkster and his producing debut here was the best it can have.

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« Reply #81 on: October 08, 2009, 10:29:41 PM »
[quote name=\'joker316\' post=\'228080\' date=\'Oct 8 2009, 02:42 PM\']Fine Travis, I accept that (after all Words Have Meanings!). I meant to say that when you have a bad idea, and you add another bad idea to it, you get an even worse idea![/quote] OK, now I have something to work with here. :)

I really didn't think it was that horrible, is all. And when you have a choice between what became the main game for Click, or Monopoly or ....Crosswords, I really didn't think it was more than a two horse race. What didn't you like about Ruckus?

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/Now I'm gonna pout too, because CS'01 was in name only!
And this is what I don't get. The bit that people remember (the cards) was there. I only saw the show once or twice because it was on a UHF station at one or two in the afternoon, but the jist of the game was there. (Yeah, I suppose they cut out everything ELSE, but it was still Card Sharks.)
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« Reply #82 on: October 09, 2009, 02:05:34 PM »
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'228100\' date=\'Oct 8 2009, 09:29 PM\'][quote name=\'joker316\' post=\'228080\' date=\'Oct 8 2009, 02:42 PM\']Now I'm gonna pout too, because CS'01 was in name only![/quote]And this is what I don't get. The bit that people remember (the cards) was there. I only saw the show once or twice because it was on a UHF station at one or two in the afternoon, but the jist of the game was there. (Yeah, I suppose they cut out everything ELSE, but it was still Card Sharks.)
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Now there's something here *I* dont' get...

You say that you only saw CS'01 once or twice (in lovely fuzzy UHF - I mean, it must have been nearly unwatchable if that is what made it one of the stated factors for you only being able to see one or two episodes in total).  I believe it is safe to suggest that the vast majority of the others who have made a point to express their disaapointment and dismay in the revival were extremely likely to have seen significantly more than one or two episodes themselves, putting them, in my estimation anyway, in a much better (and even more credible even) position to compare the revival to the previous incarnations and just how it stacked up.  The overwhelming majority (in fact, the closest to an unanimous opinion I've ever seen around here or previously on a.t.g-s) believed that, although the show in question did indeed incorporate large decks of cards in gameplay, the resemblances to any of the previous versions evaporated quickly.  From my own personal recollection, the only thing about the show that even came close to being even close to the original was the end game, yet it still was f*cked around with just enough to make it the final turd in this game show punch bowl.  The front game certainly didn't even come close to the same as the previous versions.  Just having big-assed cards on-set does not "CARD SHARKS" make.  First of all, the CS main game had always been played with each player having their own decks of cards to work from.  The '01 producers must have thought that having two decks were two costly or too much work for the lovely hostesses so they just slashed that to one single deck for the players to go through, making it possible for a player to win a round with only one correct high-low guess, as oppossed to the original rules having each player work their way across the board using their individual deck of cards and the player who actually succeeds in completing that task won the game (except in Sudden Death situations).  Perhaps it is just me but that's certainly a different game.  Also by removing the mechanism that gave contestant proper control of the cards (and the game and their ultimate fate), that being the survey questions, virtually anything resembling skill or knowledge needed to play the game was stripped away and what little did remain relied almost entirely on dumb luck for the contestants.  I mean, control of the cards in the first round was determined by a coin toss backstage?  Are you kidding me?

Bottom line for me is this...would this revival EVER have met the standards of Mark Goodson or his trusted staff and made it on-air?  No way.  It simply isn't reasonable to believe that having a mere "jist" of the original is enough to make it a true revival of said original.  I mean, didn't you yourself say that other than there being cards there that they "cut out everything ELSE"?  Actually, it almost sounds like you made my arguement for me with those few words alone.

But then again, what do I know about turds in game show punch bowls?  I'm sorry...I gotta go now...those evil-doers have found me and are gonna drag me back to the home...hmmmmm...wonder how long they'll be able to contain me this time...maybe if I bribe them with a "clip chip", they'll deny ever seeing me and let me remain free...ohhhhh, the agony...:)

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« Reply #83 on: October 09, 2009, 02:23:11 PM »
[quote name=\'irismason42\' post=\'228086\' date=\'Oct 8 2009, 07:57 PM\']G-T/MGP: Body Language - the ratings began to decrease really quickly after the regular game resume with the $500 bonus being added to Round 2 and the scoring system was weird. That $500 bonus in Round 2 was what caused the cancellation and didn't make it beyond December 1985.[/quote]

While the scoring system left much to be desired, your logic about the second round is baseless.  I actually liked that $500 bonus for getting all the words in Round 2.  And the show barely made it into January 1986, the 3rd of January to be exact.

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Agreed on MG '98.  100% never made it to air in this country.

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« Reply #84 on: October 09, 2009, 02:27:54 PM »
[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'228129\' date=\'Oct 9 2009, 02:23 PM\']
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Pearson Television: 100%, Match Game '98.

Agreed on MG '98.  100% never made it to air in this country.
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Yes it did.  Casey Kasem was the Disembodied Voice Emcee. Twas boring.

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« Reply #85 on: October 09, 2009, 02:56:23 PM »
[quote name=\'jalman\' post=\'228130\' date=\'Oct 9 2009, 02:27 PM\'][quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'228129\' date=\'Oct 9 2009, 02:23 PM\']
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Pearson Television: 100%, Match Game '98.

Agreed on MG '98.  100% never made it to air in this country.
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Yes it did.  Casey Kasem was the Disembodied Voice Emcee. Twas boring.
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Oh, it did?  My bad.  (Researches)  Limited trial run in only seven markets.

Never saw it, probably don't want to.
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« Reply #86 on: October 09, 2009, 03:38:35 PM »
[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'228131\' date=\'Oct 9 2009, 02:56 PM\'][quote name=\'jalman\' post=\'228130\' date=\'Oct 9 2009, 02:27 PM\'][quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'228129\' date=\'Oct 9 2009, 02:23 PM\']
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Pearson Television: 100%, Match Game '98.

Agreed on MG '98.  100% never made it to air in this country.
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Yes it did.  Casey Kasem was the Disembodied Voice Emcee. Twas boring.
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Oh, it did?  My bad.  (Researches)  Limited trial run in only seven markets.

Never saw it, probably don't want to.
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I remember the limited markets, and that Dallas was one of them, airing at like 3am. I wanted to check it out while I visited family there back in winter '99, but couldn't stay up late enough. Seems like I didn't miss much. :-P
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« Reply #87 on: October 09, 2009, 04:24:45 PM »
[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'228129\' date=\'Oct 9 2009, 02:23 PM\'][quote name=\'irismason42\' post=\'228086\' date=\'Oct 8 2009, 07:57 PM\']G-T/MGP: Body Language - the ratings began to decrease really quickly after the regular game resume with the $500 bonus being added to Round 2 and the scoring system was weird. That $500 bonus in Round 2 was what caused the cancellation and didn't make it beyond December 1985.[/quote]

While the scoring system left much to be desired, your logic about the second round is baseless.  I actually liked that $500 bonus for getting all the words in Round 2.  And the show barely made it into January 1986, the 3rd of January to be exact.

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Agreed on MG '98.  100% never made it to air in this country.
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I thought BL went weird when all of a sudden, every week was teen week.
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« Reply #88 on: October 09, 2009, 07:49:12 PM »
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'228135\' date=\'Oct 9 2009, 04:24 PM\']I thought BL went weird when all of a sudden, every week was teen week.[/quote]

Oh, don't forget that whole Teen Month in the summer of '85!

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« Reply #89 on: October 10, 2009, 02:35:47 PM »
[quote name=\'gamed121683\' post=\'228016\' date=\'Oct 7 2009, 09:05 PM\']TLEberle said, "How can you steal from yourself?"

I don't know...Ask this guy![/quote]

For once, someone actually makes an obscure joke that I actually get. Well played.
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