Author Topic: password judges (Read 5799 times)

toetyper · « **on:** November 02, 2009, 08:36:24 PM »

the password is

PHILADELPHIA

the Clue

phillies

buzz or ding

Kevin Prather · « **Reply #1 on:** November 02, 2009, 08:37:01 PM »

[quote name=\'toetyper\' post=\'229717\' date=\'Nov 2 2009, 05:36 PM\']the password is
PHILADELPHIA
the Clue
phillies
buzz or ding[/quote]
Buzz.

chad1m · « **Reply #2 on:** November 02, 2009, 08:44:25 PM »

If this was Pyramid I wouldn't allow it (because it conveys the "essence of the word") but I would accept it for Password. Here is what the Million Dollar Password rules say:

It is allowable to repeat a small part of the Password as part of a clue, as long as it is not the entire main root. For example, although "foot" and "ball" would not be allowed as clues for the Password "football", the clue "baseball" would be allowed. "Day" would not be allowed as a clue for "Monday", but "Sunday" would be allowed. "Strawberry" would be allowed as a clue for "blackberry", since the repeated part "berry" is not the entire main root of "blackberry".

So, I take this to mean that "Phil" or "Delphia" (if that was a real word) wouldn't work but "Phillies", an established proper noun, is acceptable.

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #3 on:** November 02, 2009, 08:46:36 PM »

I don't think it would be a good clue anyway because sounds like "fillies" which would lead to something equine.

Don Howard · « **Reply #4 on:** November 02, 2009, 08:49:56 PM »

Ding! 'Tisn't a form of the word.
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'229722\' date=\'Nov 2 2009, 08:46 PM\']I don't think it would be a good clue anyway because sounds like "fillies" which would lead to something equine.[/quote]
Everything fun usually does.

TLEberle · « **Reply #5 on:** November 02, 2009, 09:09:07 PM »

With my group, the agreed upon arbiter of clues was dictionary.com. I just looked. No joy.

[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'229722\' date=\'Nov 2 2009, 05:46 PM\']I don't think it would be a good clue anyway because sounds like "fillies" which would lead to something equine.[/quote]This is also a fine reason to not give the clue.

NickintheATL · « **Reply #6 on:** November 02, 2009, 10:46:12 PM »

[quote name=\'toetyper\' post=\'229717\' date=\'Nov 2 2009, 08:36 PM\']the password is

PHILADELPHIA[/quote]

If this were the original version of Password, this wouldn't even be a Password. It is a proper name.

Yes, yes, I know that changed slightly in the later versions, but it's still a valid argument.

Jay Temple · « **Reply #7 on:** November 03, 2009, 01:12:13 AM »

Excellent point, Nicholas. My hunch is that SP would have allowed it, but not P+. My only reason on the second is that "Phillies" is more nearly a form of "Philadelphia" than "French" is of "France". Indeed, Philly is a form of "Philadelphia".

BrandonFG · « **Reply #8 on:** November 03, 2009, 01:17:34 AM »

My question is, why would someone even take the chance of going for something that close? Even if it's considered legal, it just sounds too close to the main word to take that chance. I'd go for "76ers" or "Sixers" first, but are team names like that even allowed? The former is technically a hyphenated word, which counts as one word.

clemon79 · « **Reply #9 on:** November 03, 2009, 01:31:01 AM »

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'229741\' date=\'Nov 2 2009, 10:17 PM\']The former is technically a hyphenated word, which counts as one word.[/quote]
In Password I do not believe this to be the case.

(In fact I can say this with certainty, as the Milton Bradley Password rules always used "well-to-do" as an example of a clue that is illegal because of its hyphenation.)

TLEberle · « **Reply #10 on:** November 03, 2009, 01:37:04 AM »

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'229741\' date=\'Nov 2 2009, 10:17 PM\']My question is, why would someone even take the chance of going for something that close? Even if it's considered legal, it just sounds too close to the main word to take that chance. I'd go for "76ers" or "Sixers" first, but are team names like that even allowed? The former is technically a hyphenated word, which counts as one word.[/quote]Sixer would pass, albeit barely: as slang for a six-pack of a beverage. But again, that goes back to will your partner make the connection that you want "Philadelphia" and not "seventy"?

Craig Karlberg · « **Reply #11 on:** November 03, 2009, 03:59:28 AM »

I'd probably buzz it based on the form of the word aspect. And besides, how many contestants would actually figure that out if they don't follow any sports at all? A better way to go about it is to try Pennsylvania(if we go by SP rules) first, then city.

/At least this topic's appropiate since my Phillies just staved off elimmination last night.

Kevin Prather · « **Reply #12 on:** November 03, 2009, 04:49:31 AM »

Honestly, I'd just give something like "Pittsburgh?". I think they'd get it easier that way anyway, unless they go with Harrisburg.

Neumms · « **Reply #13 on:** November 03, 2009, 12:15:08 PM »

[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'229723\' date=\'Nov 2 2009, 08:49 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'229722\' date=\'Nov 2 2009, 08:46 PM\']I don't think it would be a good clue anyway because sounds like "fillies" which would lead to something equine.[/quote]
Everything fun usually does.
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Kudos for that!

alfonzos · « **Reply #14 on:** November 03, 2009, 09:14:34 PM »

Buzz. The clue contains the essence of the password.