Author Topic: Final jeopardy hypothetical (Read 4607 times)

toetyper · « **on:** November 23, 2009, 08:34:21 PM »

what if a player writes down the right answer..tries to cross it out. but is still legible. and doesnt put another answer. could alex accept it as correct ?

dale_grass · « **Reply #1 on:** November 23, 2009, 08:41:20 PM »

[quote name=\'toetyper\' post=\'231110\' date=\'Nov 23 2009, 09:34 PM\']what if a player writes down the right answer..tries to cross it out. but is still legible. and doesnt put another answer. could alex accept it as correct ?[/quote]
"Jean, your response... 'Who is Malcolm X?' Well, it kinda runs together, but we'll give it to you."

It is an interesting question... if students of mine cross out a correct solution on a homework or a test and write nothing else, I give them most of the credit.

jmangin · « **Reply #2 on:** November 23, 2009, 09:03:12 PM »

[quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'231112\' date=\'Nov 23 2009, 08:41 PM\']It is an interesting question... if students of mine cross out a correct solution on a homework or a test and write nothing else, I give them most of the credit.[/quote]
Out of pure unrelated curiosity, what do you do if they write something incorrect after crossing-out what had been a correct answer?

MrBuddwing · « **Reply #3 on:** November 23, 2009, 09:10:27 PM »

[quote name=\'toetyper\' post=\'231110\' date=\'Nov 23 2009, 08:34 PM\']what if a player writes down the right answer..tries to cross it out. but is still legible. and doesnt put another answer. could alex accept it as correct ?[/quote]

My dim recollection from the early years is that something like that did happen: A contestant wrote an answer, changed her mind, crossed it out, didn't write a different answer, the crossed-out answer turned out to be right - but it was counted wrong.

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #4 on:** November 23, 2009, 10:22:34 PM »

My feeling would be that a crossed-out answer, correct or not, is effectively the same as writing nothing. That's more or less what crossing out means.

It's a weird hypothetical, because I can't imagine it's likely that a player would cross out an answer without having another one ready. One of the strategies I've heard mentioned on the Jeopardy board is to write down the first thing that comes into your head right away, and then cross it out if you think of something better.

ClockGameJohn · « **Reply #5 on:** November 23, 2009, 10:30:25 PM »

[quote name=\'jmangin\' post=\'231114\' date=\'Nov 23 2009, 09:03 PM\']Out of pure unrelated curiosity, what do you do if they write something incorrect after crossing-out what had been a correct answer?[/quote]

You really don't know?

jmangin · « **Reply #6 on:** November 24, 2009, 01:01:55 AM »

[quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' post=\'231121\' date=\'Nov 23 2009, 10:30 PM\'][quote name=\'jmangin\' post=\'231114\' date=\'Nov 23 2009, 09:03 PM\']Out of pure unrelated curiosity, what do you do if they write something incorrect after crossing-out what had been a correct answer?[/quote]
You really don't know?
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Thanks, Dale. Ohhh...wait... I wasn't asking you.

Jeremy Nelson · « **Reply #7 on:** November 24, 2009, 01:26:55 AM »

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'231119\' date=\'Nov 23 2009, 09:22 PM\']My feeling would be that a crossed-out answer, correct or not, is effectively the same as writing nothing. That's more or less what crossing out means.[/quote]
And that, ladies and gentlemen, wraps up another edition of Words Have Meanings.

It's a gray area for me, because if it's the only thing on the board, it's still a registered guess. There's no second guess on the monitor to nullify the first. I look at this as a written version of what we dealt with in College Bowl-your first given response is the accepted one, regardless of how unsure your answer sounds. Even if a player says "Is it Jefferson? No, it can't be", Jefferson is still the registered answer.

On the other hand, I wouldn't want to be the second place player who gave the correct response, only to lose because the leader's sole crossed out answer was accepted.

[quote name=\'jmangin\' post=\'231114\' date=\'Nov 23 2009, 08:03 PM\']Out of pure unrelated curiosity, what do you do if they write something incorrect after crossing-out what had been a correct answer?[/quote]
I do recall an occasion or two where Alex said something along the lines of "You said Washington. That's wrong, and it looks like you crossed out Jefferson, which was the correct response. Oooh, sorry."

Dbacksfan12 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 24, 2009, 04:53:14 AM »

[quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' post=\'231121\' date=\'Nov 23 2009, 10:30 PM\'][quote name=\'jmangin\' post=\'231114\' date=\'Nov 23 2009, 09:03 PM\']Out of pure unrelated curiosity, what do you do if they write something incorrect after crossing-out what had been a correct answer?[/quote]
You really don't know?[/quote]Seems to me that would be up to the teacher. Perhaps some give partial credit.

As an aside, imagine if Barker was a teacher. "Give him an A+ anyway!"
(cue bells and win music)

MikeK · « **Reply #9 on:** November 24, 2009, 06:23:54 AM »

[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'231149\' date=\'Nov 24 2009, 04:53 AM\'][quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' post=\'231121\' date=\'Nov 23 2009, 10:30 PM\'][quote name=\'jmangin\' post=\'231114\' date=\'Nov 23 2009, 09:03 PM\']Out of pure unrelated curiosity, what do you do if they write something incorrect after crossing-out what had been a correct answer?[/quote]
You really don't know?[/quote]Seems to me that would be up to the teacher. Perhaps some give partial credit.[/quote]
...which is what I do, as well as circling the correct answer with a highlighter and "This is correct" in pen. But I'm not Dale so my answer doesn't count either.

jmangin · « **Reply #10 on:** November 24, 2009, 08:25:23 AM »

[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'231149\' date=\'Nov 24 2009, 04:53 AM\'][quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' post=\'231121\' date=\'Nov 23 2009, 10:30 PM\'][quote name=\'jmangin\' post=\'231114\' date=\'Nov 23 2009, 09:03 PM\']Out of pure unrelated curiosity, what do you do if they write something incorrect after crossing-out what had been a correct answer?[/quote]
You really don't know?[/quote]Seems to me that would be up to the teacher. Perhaps some give partial credit.
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And that's exactly what I wanted to know--I wasn't asking what would happen on Jeopardy!. I was curious about how Dale would handle it.

ClockGameJohn · « **Reply #11 on:** November 24, 2009, 01:56:59 PM »

I apologize for not properly reading into your sarcasm and wasted posting.

chrisholland03 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 24, 2009, 02:09:01 PM »

I'm trying to dig up my copy of the Jeopardy! rules from the late 90s...I seem to remember them addressing this scenario very clearly as an incorrect answer. I also recall it addressing illegible answers as well.

dale_grass · « **Reply #13 on:** November 24, 2009, 08:45:48 PM »

Settle down, fellas. Harumpf.
[quote name=\'jmangin\' post=\'231114\' date=\'Nov 23 2009, 10:03 PM\'][quote name=\'dale_grass\' post=\'231112\' date=\'Nov 23 2009, 08:41 PM\']It is an interesting question... if students of mine cross out a correct solution on a homework or a test and write nothing else, I give them most of the credit.[/quote]
Out of pure unrelated curiosity, what do you do if they write something incorrect after crossing-out what had been a correct answer?
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Same deal. I'll circle/bracket all the correct stuff and cross out the wrong stuff, then take a point or two off. I'm a pussycat when it comes to doling out points (because, honestly, it won't make or break anyone's grade considering how often it happens.)

jmangin · « **Reply #14 on:** November 24, 2009, 10:22:48 PM »

[quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' post=\'231167\' date=\'Nov 24 2009, 01:56 PM\']I apologize for not properly reading into your sarcasm and wasted posting.[/quote]
I was genuinely curious about what Dale did as a teacher based on his previous post.

Wasted posting? Just go away, John.