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chad1m

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« Reply #150 on: December 21, 2009, 04:26:23 PM »
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'232670\' date=\'Dec 21 2009, 03:24 PM\']DOND contestants make their decisions in response to the banker's offer. PYL contestants base their decisions on hunch.[/quote]And Deal contestants do not? "I'm going on because I could hit $5,000 and a spin!" = "I'm going on because I could have $500,000 in here!"
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« Reply #151 on: December 21, 2009, 04:35:31 PM »
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'232676\' date=\'Dec 21 2009, 01:26 PM\']"I'm going on because I could have $500,000 in here!"[/quote]
jybt's head just asploded.
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« Reply #152 on: December 21, 2009, 04:38:28 PM »
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'232677\' date=\'Dec 21 2009, 04:35 PM\']jybt's head just asploded.[/quote]That's why I made it "could have" instead of "Hootie hoo! I'm positive I got me some half million in this shiny box." :)

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« Reply #153 on: December 21, 2009, 05:37:59 PM »
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'232676\' date=\'Dec 21 2009, 01:26 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'232670\' date=\'Dec 21 2009, 03:24 PM\']DOND contestants make their decisions in response to the banker's offer. PYL contestants base their decisions on hunch.[/quote]And Deal contestants do not? "I'm going on because I could hit $5,000 and a spin!" = "I'm going on because I could have $500,000 in here!"[/quote]
Yes, but in so doing the DOND contestant is turning down a $27,000 or whatever offer from the banker. No luck/chance there.

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« Reply #154 on: December 21, 2009, 05:40:47 PM »
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'232676\' date=\'Dec 21 2009, 04:26 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'232670\' date=\'Dec 21 2009, 03:24 PM\']DOND contestants make their decisions in response to the banker's offer. PYL contestants base their decisions on hunch.[/quote]And Deal contestants do not? "I'm going on because I could hit $5,000 and a spin!" = "I'm going on because I could have $500,000 in here!"[/quote]
The difference as I see it -- and it's definitely a nuanced thing here -- is that with DoND, you are looking at a static board and the probabilities are right up there staring you in the face.  If there's a million in one case, and four smaller amounts, then you know you have a one in five chance of hitting the "whammy" on your next pick.   Whether you use that information rationally is a different issue.  On Press Your Luck, you didn't really have explicit odds as to when the "whammy" might appear.  Hence, "hunch".  

(I seem to remember reading that a whammy came up about one time in six, but I can't remember if that was something they shared with contestants, or whether that's something that fans have calculated over time.)

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'232681\' date=\'Dec 21 2009, 05:37 PM\']Yes, but in so doing the DOND contestant is turning down a $27,000 or whatever offer from the banker. No luck/chance there.[/quote]
And on Press Your Luck, the player is gambling the money that he's accrued to that point.  I don't see a huge difference there.
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« Reply #155 on: December 21, 2009, 05:54:37 PM »
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'232683\' date=\'Dec 21 2009, 05:40 PM\'](I seem to remember reading that a whammy came up about one time in six, but I can't remember if that was something they shared with contestants, or whether that's something that fans have calculated over time.)[/quote]I think its just something fans noticed later on.  According to this diorama, there are 9 whammies on each board.  With 54 spaces; you get your 1 in 6 chance.
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« Reply #156 on: December 21, 2009, 11:34:10 PM »
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'232684\' date=\'Dec 21 2009, 05:54 PM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'232683\' date=\'Dec 21 2009, 05:40 PM\'](I seem to remember reading that a whammy came up about one time in six, but I can't remember if that was something they shared with contestants, or whether that's something that fans have calculated over time.)[/quote]I think its just something fans noticed later on.  According to this diorama, there are 9 whammies on each board.  With 54 spaces; you get your 1 in 6 chance.
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« Reply #157 on: December 22, 2009, 11:56:45 AM »
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'232670\' date=\'Dec 21 2009, 03:24 PM\']If you're comparing DOND to PYL, no. DOND contestants make their decisions in response to the banker's offer. PYL contestants base their decisions on hunch.[/quote]

Hunch, granted, but they also have the other players to contend with. They can't just say, "hey, I want to pocket my $2,700 and rug and go home." On DOND, they've won money the minute they're picked to play.

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« Reply #158 on: December 23, 2009, 05:40:34 AM »
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'232657\' date=\'Dec 21 2009, 01:20 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'232654\' date=\'Dec 21 2009, 02:07 PM\']the underlying format was adequate.[/quote]
OK, I'm good with 'adequate'.  So that one example, not so much.  But between the two of us, we've named several shows with weak formats that still managed to be decent TV shows.  So it can be done, it's just not as easy if the format isn't strong.
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Well look at slot machines. Down to the bare format they're just a random number generator that you push a button and hope you hit it at the right time. Not the most creative format but there's thousands in vegas with plenty of people playing.

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« Reply #159 on: December 23, 2009, 07:32:52 AM »
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there's thousands in vegas with plenty of people playing.
When was the last time you stood for an hour and watched someone else play a slot machine?

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« Reply #160 on: December 23, 2009, 09:05:55 AM »
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there's thousands in vegas with plenty of people playing.
When was the last time you stood for an hour and watched someone else play a slot machine?
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« Reply #161 on: December 23, 2009, 02:06:30 PM »
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I'm with Chris C.--I think friend or family pairs would be fine. The occasional inside reference might be charming
Would you also have no problem with the family or friend pairs coming up with their own code beforehand? If not, how would you draw the line between the two?
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« Reply #162 on: December 23, 2009, 02:14:57 PM »
They did 'family pair Pyramid' on Supermarket Sweep a few times. The results were not so watchable.
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« Reply #163 on: December 23, 2009, 02:35:45 PM »
[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'232845\' date=\'Dec 23 2009, 11:14 AM\']They did 'family pair Pyramid' on Supermarket Sweep a few times. The results were not so watchable.[/quote]
And yet, there are going to be people around here swearing up and down that it's a viable option until the day we die.
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« Reply #164 on: December 23, 2009, 02:43:34 PM »
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uh oh, time for Wapner
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