I guess nobody here reads Esquire magazine

[Matt Ottinger]

[quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' post=\'243954\' date=\'Jul 11 2010, 07:39 PM\']The goal of a contestant on The Price is Right is to guess prices correctly.  No one is going to lose their job if someone does.[/quote]
The goal of a contestant on Twenty-One was to answer questions correctly.  No one was going to....oh, wait a minute....

My point being that in the moment when this was all happening, nobody knew exactly how it had happened and precisely what they were dealing with.  The article does a good job of conveying that panic, and frankly helped me understand a lot better where Drew & company were coming from.  Once they understood the situation, no one lost their job over it, no one got arrested, the episode aired and everybody got their prizes.

I think the card-counting analogy from the article is a very good one.  When someone is good enough to take the game for a ride, there isn't anything illegal about it, and many of us can admire the effort that went into it, but the people who run the game might take a much dimmer view and put precautions in place to make sure it doesn't happen again.  I can see why they might do that, and I can also see why fans of the skillful players would find that distasteful.

Seeing both sides.  A GSF exclusive.

[MyronMMeyer]

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'243973\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 08:39 AM\']Seeing both sides.  A GSF exclusive.[/quote]

Actually reading the article. A Matt Ottinger exclusive.

-M

[TalkingHeadsFan]

The article is now available to read online:

http://www.esquire.com/features/impossible...erfect-bid-0810

-Doug

[Ian Wallis]

I think they should plant Ted Slauson in the audience but this time pay him $10,000 to give bogus signals.

The article mentioned Ted had been in the audience 37 times.  On the Oct 5, 2006 show that several of us attended, does anybody know if this guy was in the audience that day?  Something a little weird happened on one of the IUFBs.  Maybe I'm wrong...Doug?  Don?  Mike?

[SRIV94]

[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'243977\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 11:06 AM\']

I think they should plant Ted Slauson in the audience but this time pay him $10,000 to give bogus signals.

The article mentioned Ted had been in the audience 37 times.  On the Oct 5, 2006 show that several of us attended, does anybody know if this guy was in the audience that day?  Something a little weird happened on one of the IUFBs.  Maybe I'm wrong...Doug?  Don?  Mike?
[/quote]
I remember that too, but I don't think it was a bidding issue.  My recollection is that someone came on down when they were actually intending for someone else to come on down.  And if Ted was there that day, I wouldn't recognize him anyway--I haven't been to enough tapings (although I'm going to one on August 11).

[Dbacksfan12]

[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'243980\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 11:36 AM\'][quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'243977\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 11:06 AM\']

I think they should plant Ted Slauson in the audience but this time pay him $10,000 to give bogus signals.

The article mentioned Ted had been in the audience 37 times.  On the Oct 5, 2006 show that several of us attended, does anybody know if this guy was in the audience that day?  Something a little weird happened on one of the IUFBs.  Maybe I'm wrong...Doug?  Don?  Mike?
[/quote]
I remember that too, but I don't think it was a bidding issue.  My recollection is that someone came on down when they were actually intending for someone else to come on down.  And if Ted was there that day, I wouldn't recognize him anyway--I haven't been to enough tapings (although I'm going to one on August 11).[/quote]I seem to recall hearing an antidote that this Ted fellow was yelling out correct prices and the production staff thought it was the GSF people doing it.

[SRIV94]

[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'243981\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 11:47 AM\'][quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'243980\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 11:36 AM\'][quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'243977\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 11:06 AM\']

I think they should plant Ted Slauson in the audience but this time pay him $10,000 to give bogus signals.

The article mentioned Ted had been in the audience 37 times.  On the Oct 5, 2006 show that several of us attended, does anybody know if this guy was in the audience that day?  Something a little weird happened on one of the IUFBs.  Maybe I'm wrong...Doug?  Don?  Mike?
[/quote]
I remember that too, but I don't think it was a bidding issue.  My recollection is that someone came on down when they were actually intending for someone else to come on down.  And if Ted was there that day, I wouldn't recognize him anyway--I haven't been to enough tapings (although I'm going to one on August 11).[/quote]I seem to recall hearing an antidote that this Ted fellow was yelling out correct prices and the production staff thought it was the GSF people doing it.
[/quote]
How would they know?  It's not like we paraded ourselves as GSF members (at least, I don't think we did).

And just FYI, Mark, it's "anecdote", not "antidote."

[Ian Wallis]

I remember that too, but I don't think it was a bidding issue. My recollection is that someone came on down when they were actually intending for someone else to come on down.

That did happen, but here's what I remember re. the bidding:  I'm writing this from work so I can't access my DVD of the show from here, but I believe it was the first IUFB, the gentleman who was seated next to my wife, two seats from me and three from Don Howard yelled out something like "$1263" on the item.  The contestant furthest left (from the studio audience perspective) bid $1263.  The bell went off and that was a perfect bid.  It's a very odd amount to get a perfect bid on.  The winner knew some of the other people in our group - Jason Hernandez I believe was one of them.

In the line the guy didn't talk too much, but I'm pretty sure at one point he said he lived in Texas,  had been to quite a number of tapings before and knew the prices of a lot of the items.

To the best of my memory, he didn't help anyone else out that particular show, but after reading this article it made me think it might have been him.

[tvmitch]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'243970\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 02:43 AM\'][quote name=\'tvmitch\' post=\'243956\' date=\'Jul 11 2010, 05:46 PM\']It's important to know that everyone's quick-draw opinion of "15 minutes of fame" here isn't valid. I doubt that the author wrote this article because Terry came to him and said "hey, I have an interesting story to tell you, oh writer from Esquire." Mr. Jones sought him out, almost certainly, and he was happy to retell the story.[/quote]
A) you don't know that, and until you do, for certain, then and only then do you get to tell me that my opinion is invalid, and b) as you said, he was happy to retell the story, and it's still the same outright lie he's been telling from Day One.
[/quote]
Perhaps I worded it a bit too strongly about "everyone's opinion," but I still stand by that sentence. My experience in journalism has found that it very rarely works the other way around.

[WarioBarker]

Fascinating article. Notably, Drew is quoted as saying "We'd just fired Roger Dobkowitz, and all the fan groups were upset about it". Assuming the author doesn't have a bias, I'm surprised this statement even exists -- and the "we" implies Drew had a hand in it.

And, of course, the end of the show is referred to as the "Showcase Showdown".

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'tvmitch\' post=\'243988\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 12:09 PM\']Perhaps I worded it a bit too strongly about "everyone's opinion," but I still stand by that sentence. My experience in journalism has found that it very rarely works the other way around.[/quote]
You're probably right, but I stand by my point (b). He sure as hell didn't say "no" and I sure as hell still don't buy his story.

Here's my favorite line:

"It's just not much fun anymore," Ted says. "It's just guessing now."

You mean, like they intended it to be in 1972? Irony just doesn't get more delicious, kids.

[Hastin]

[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'243989\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 12:15 PM\']Notably, Drew is quoted as saying "We'd just fired Roger Dobkowitz, and all the fan groups were upset about it".[/quote]

I could care less about who runs TPiR, but this does bother me. I never really refer to someone as fired unless they actually we're fired, and the "we'd" really shows that he may have had a hand in it (unlike his "I liked Roger" quotes of the past). Still, there reasons for getting rid of Rodge could be valid. I've only ever heard one side of the story, the fan side.

It's interesting. I'm sad to see that they think that people knowing the Right Price of items makes the game broken, but if this was an issue - Ted shouldn't have been in the audience. I don't think having the prices so random is good, but as long as they are using ARP, then that's all that matters, IMHO.

[chad1m]

[quote name=\'Hastin\' post=\'243999\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 04:29 PM\']I could care less about who runs TPiR, but this does bother me. I never really refer to someone as fired unless they actually we're fired, and the "we'd" really shows that he may have had a hand in it (unlike his "I liked Roger" quotes of the past)[/quote]
To borrow from a G-R poster, have you never heard of the "royal we"?

[Hastin]

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'244001\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 01:43 PM\']To borrow from a G-R poster, have you never heard of the "royal we"?[/quote]

Fantastic point Chad, I didn't think to connect those things. I guess I just work well in a team and don't dictate over my other teammates.
Oh, and I actually had to earn my job too.

[J.R.]

[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'243989\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 02:15 PM\']/*slinks back into his self-imposed exile*[/quote]
Nobody cares about your posting habits.