GSN doing new 1 vs 100...

[tvwxman]

[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'248980\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 05:39 PM\'][quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'248971\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 01:45 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'248956\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 01:13 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'248955\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 09:48 AM\']If the mob is pre-taped, can't the producers "control" how far a "one" can get?[/quote]"No."[/quote]Wrong. The rest of the forum splits your winnings.[/quote]Beg pardon? The One player controls how far the One can get by providing correct answers.
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Sorta. But the argument doesn't lie with how smart the one is.....

Here's my beef w/ taped players. Producers no longer have to stack tough questions against one player. If they want someone to win 50K, they load up 100 players with the knowledge that at some (early) point, they all get stumped. If they want someone to win nothing, they throw in a player that, cause the questions were taped in advance, they already know can't be stumped. And who's to say that the stack won't be a set different number of questions each time? Not fair.

This reeks of fixing outcomes.

[TLEberle]

[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'248982\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 02:55 PM\']Here's my beef w/ taped players. Producers no longer have to stack tough questions against one player. If they want someone to win 50K, they load up 100 players with the knowledge that at some (early) point, they all get stumped. If they want someone to win nothing, they throw in a player that, cause the questions were taped in advance, they already know can't be stumped. And who's to say that the stack won't be a set different number of questions each time? Not fair.

This reeks of fixing outcomes.[/quote]I would think that the producers would stack the questions so that if the One answers correctly enough times, he'll win. If he's wrong at some point, it doesn't matter because he's done. At some point, there has to be a winning side, doesn't there?

But the more I think about it, and the way you explain it...it really doesn't pass the sniff test.

[Joe Mello]

Speaking of the mob, almost all of them will be pre-recorded and added to the game digitally, with a handful of them actually live and interacting with the contestants.

Yes, there's going to be pre-taped Mob, but not all of it (I'm guessing the "headliners" are going to be live), thus reducing the ability to control the outcome by shuffling the stack.

[WarioBarker]

[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'248983\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 06:13 PM\']At some point, there has to be a winning side, doesn't there?[/quote]
If my understanding of the show's rules is correct, no. It is entirely possible for both the One and the Mob to answer a question incorrectly, hence awarding no money.

[TLEberle]

[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'248988\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 04:23 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'248983\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 06:13 PM\']At some point, there has to be a winning side, doesn't there?[/quote]If my understanding of the show's rules is correct, no. It is entirely possible for both the One and the Mob to answer a question incorrectly, hence awarding no money.
[/quote]Which isn't really the point I was going for, and would be a happy little side affect for GSN, if they prefer doling out no money to having a winner.

Barring the fluke that everybody misses on a question, somebody has to win; either because the One goofs, or the Mob has all struck out. Back in the "good old days," no one knew beforehand when that would be, because only the question stack was known. Now the production team can decide whether the maximum length of the game will be five questions or forty.

[parliboy]

I suppose it's expecting too much that there might be a firewall, so the people who decide on the questions in a stack don't know what responses were given.

Just hoping against hope.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'249043\' date=\'Oct 11 2010, 06:58 PM\']I suppose it's expecting too much that there might be a firewall, so the people who decide on the questions in a stack don't know what responses were given.[/quote]
Expecting WAY too much, I suspect.

[chad1m]

Just a reminder that the new series premieres this Monday at 7 pm ET (same day rerun at 10 pm). If you haven't noticed my signature, I will be one of the rotating mob members throughout the season so I'll be having fun throughout the next few weeks trying to spot myself in the mob and see if I won any money. I encourage everyone to give the show a chance. Even though the top prize isn't as extravagant as it used to be, it's still the same game that many people enjoyed. I really think you'll be impressed.

[weaklink75]

Buzzerblog has some clips up.....I will give them this, the video wall looks great. I share the concern that others have said about the producers gaming the question stack since they'll know how the mob did on each question..If they randomized the questions somehow, I'd feel a little more comfortable with it. They could have the contestants pick questions either randomly- tell them to hit A,B, or C to pick the question- or do what they do in some other versions; give them a choice of categories or give them the choice of an easier or a harder question in a specific category..

[Steve Gavazzi]

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'250502\' date=\'Nov 9 2010, 12:58 AM\']Just a reminder that the new series premieres this Monday at 7 pm ET (same day rerun at 10 pm). If you haven't noticed my signature, I will be one of the rotating mob members throughout the season so I'll be having fun throughout the next few weeks trying to spot myself in the mob and see if I won any money. I encourage everyone to give the show a chance. Even though the top prize isn't as extravagant as it used to be, it's still the same game that many people enjoyed. I really think you'll be impressed.[/quote]
I must admit I'm confused here.  You seem to be implying that you weren't in the studio during the actual shows, yet you're saying that you think we'll be impressed by them.  Were you guys shown clips of the program when you taped your mob appearances?

[chad1m]

[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'250565\' date=\'Nov 9 2010, 10:32 PM\']Were you guys shown clips of the program when you taped your mob appearances?[/quote]I'm speaking from clips that have been posted from GSN, seeing the material that will be used plus interacting with people who really care about replicating the success of the NBC program. Many of the same people from Saget's show worked on this one.

[MTCesquire]

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'250567\' date=\'Nov 9 2010, 10:41 PM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'250565\' date=\'Nov 9 2010, 10:32 PM\']Were you guys shown clips of the program when you taped your mob appearances?[/quote]I'm speaking from clips that have been posted from GSN, seeing the material that will be used plus interacting with people who really care about replicating the success of the NBC program. Many of the same people from Saget's show worked on this one.
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Without going into detail about gameplay, what exactly took place during your session?  Were you in front a camera answering questions a producer asked you?  Piggybacking on Steve's question, were you shown anything at all regarding the show as far as the set, etc.?

[chad1m]

To be as vague as possible, the answering of questions did not take place in front of a camera. The answering of questions and recording of reactions were two different occurrences. (You'll see all about the reactions when the show airs.) We had no knowledge of anything program-wise except for the rules we signed.

[Steve Gavazzi]

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'250573\' date=\'Nov 9 2010, 11:37 PM\']We had no knowledge of anything program-wise except for the rules we signed.[/quote]
Then what would lead you to believe we will or won't be impressed?

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'250594\' date=\'Nov 10 2010, 10:24 AM\']Then what would lead you to believe we will or won't be impressed?[/quote]
He did say that GSN's posted clips, didn't he?

(Yes, I realize this smacks of self-promotion. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt here.)