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clemon79

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« Reply #165 on: September 06, 2010, 11:50:39 PM »
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'247037\' date=\'Sep 6 2010, 08:15 PM\']I completely see Tim's point: if I'm the contestant, I want my safety net to be whatever I carried into Original Recipe.[/quote]
Well, yeah, and if I'm the contestant, I want the four Original Recipe questions to ask me the first four numbers of the Fibonacci sequence.
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But if I'm the show, and I did the math
What, are you suggesting that the show *actually thought out* this angle? Perish the thought! :)
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« Reply #166 on: September 07, 2010, 02:49:10 AM »
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'247040\' date=\'Sep 6 2010, 08:50 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'247037\' date=\'Sep 6 2010, 08:15 PM\']I completely see Tim's point: if I'm the contestant, I want my safety net to be whatever I carried into Original Recipe.[/quote]
Well, yeah, and if I'm the contestant, I want the four Original Recipe questions to ask me the first four numbers of the Fibonacci sequence.[/quote]
But what's the point of offering $68K in the first 11? Why not finagle the numbers to have them add up to $50K? At least then it matches up with the previous money ladder.

"But Tim! They want to be able to offer the players more money without actually giving it to them!"
Hence my "But Not Really" argument.
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« Reply #167 on: September 07, 2010, 03:42:55 AM »
[quote name=\'Loogaroo\' post=\'247044\' date=\'Sep 6 2010, 11:49 PM\']"But Tim! They want to be able to offer the players more money without actually giving it to them!"
Hence my "But Not Really" argument.[/quote]
...but if they walk on Question 11, THEY GET IT. Your argument is invalid.

If they fail, they do not get it, they get less. Nor should they, because they failed. If they get it right, they get more. They removed the free guess at that tier. Most people would consider that a feature, not a bug.

But I know, change is hard.
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« Reply #168 on: September 07, 2010, 11:01:20 PM »
[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'247025\' date=\'Sep 6 2010, 07:49 PM\'][quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'247002\' date=\'Sep 6 2010, 05:07 PM\'][quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'246971\' date=\'Sep 6 2010, 11:52 AM\']And what would happen if the friend did try to use a search site? The show fills the offending computer with spam, malware, and/or viruses...and maybe even disables the user's anti-virus program/firewall for good measure?[/quote]I've never seen someone try so hard to be funny as you.[/quote]
One problem -- I wasn't trying to be funny. I wasn't even making a joke. I was being dead serious.
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I guess look at it this way: do you think Disney would want bad press for "filling the offending computer with spam, malware, etc." of the Skype-ee?

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« Reply #169 on: September 07, 2010, 11:52:15 PM »
[quote name=\'Loogaroo\' post=\'247044\' date=\'Sep 6 2010, 11:49 PM\']Why not finagle the numbers to have them add up to $50K? At least then it matches up with the previous money ladder.[/quote]

I've actually thought about that and it is doable, although the cleanest way I came up with is a nine question first round with these values:
$500, $1,000, $1,500, $2,000, $2,500, $5,000, $7,500, $10,000, $20,000

$68,600 just seems like such an odd amount to achieve, I'm surprised that they didn't make it add up to a rounder number.

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« Reply #170 on: September 08, 2010, 11:27:12 AM »
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'247027\' date=\'Sep 6 2010, 09:21 PM\'][quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'247025\' date=\'Sep 6 2010, 08:49 PM\']I wasn't even making a joke. I was being dead serious.[/quote]That's the scary part.

I realized earlier that when I watched the past seasons via DVR (since I usually had school during the airing time), I would fast forward through most contestant introductions and the first five questions since, you know, nothing "interesting" usually happened then. With the new format, every question has a potential importance so there's nothing to skip or drudge through now.
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Exactly. Sorry to say, but I could really care less about the first 7 questions or so on the old format of Millionaire. The first five questions were always a joke on the show.

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« Reply #171 on: September 08, 2010, 02:27:08 PM »
Why not treat the first five questions the same way other shows do coin tosses, straw draws and the like and do them backstage before the show?  If they can't get past the first five, they don't get on TV.
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« Reply #172 on: September 08, 2010, 02:45:38 PM »
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'247136\' date=\'Sep 8 2010, 01:27 PM\']Why not treat the first five questions the same way other shows do coin tosses, straw draws and the like and do them backstage before the show?  If they can't get past the first five, they don't get on TV.[/quote]
Because if the contestant needs to use Ask the Audience within the first five questions, there's no way to implement it backstage. Also, it then looks odd for a contestant to enter the game with a lifeline missing.

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« Reply #173 on: September 08, 2010, 03:14:56 PM »
[quote name=\'MSTieScott\' post=\'247139\' date=\'Sep 8 2010, 11:45 AM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'247136\' date=\'Sep 8 2010, 01:27 PM\']Why not treat the first five questions the same way other shows do coin tosses, straw draws and the like and do them backstage before the show?  If they can't get past the first five, they don't get on TV.[/quote]
Because if the contestant needs to use Ask the Audience within the first five questions, there's no way to implement it backstage. Also, it then looks odd for a contestant to enter the game with a lifeline missing.[/quote]
You thought this was a serious question? I just assumed Jimmy was trolling again.
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« Reply #174 on: September 08, 2010, 04:21:58 PM »
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'247136\' date=\'Sep 8 2010, 02:27 PM\']Why not treat the first five questions the same way other shows do coin tosses, straw draws and the like and do them backstage before the show?  If they can't get past the first five, they don't get on TV.[/quote]

#1 because they already passed a test much tougher than the first five questions.

#2  because when someone is on TV instead of in their living rooms, sometimes they smiply draw a blank

#3  because if in the first five there is a question about Harry Potter and the contestant doesn't have kids, they won't know it and that doesn't mean they're not good enough to be there.

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« Reply #175 on: September 08, 2010, 06:36:31 PM »
[quote name=\'Loogaroo\' post=\'247044\' date=\'Sep 7 2010, 02:49 AM\']But what's the point of offering $68K in the first 11? Why not finagle the numbers to have them add up to $50K?[/quote]
Because then they aren't offering more money than before.  If you get through Meredith Roulette, your bank is automatically more than 25k.

Not sure why you can't do round numbers, either (replace 100 with 1500 and you get 70k total).  Perhaps the powers that be think that $100 is an iconic value.
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« Reply #176 on: September 08, 2010, 08:06:43 PM »
Does the total really matter when you can skip two questions, not adding them in the total?
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« Reply #177 on: September 09, 2010, 10:06:18 AM »
[quote name=\'mxc0427\' post=\'247123\' date=\'Sep 8 2010, 10:27 AM\']The first five questions were always a joke on the show.[/quote]
I thought that was the point.

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« Reply #178 on: September 10, 2010, 03:46:21 PM »
[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'246848\' date=\'Sep 4 2010, 02:56 PM\'][quote name=\'IFeelMillionaire\' post=\'246821\' date=\'Sep 4 2010, 01:48 AM\']I played the new version of the game online at the Millionaire page. You can test drive the game for yourself, with the new rules, before it airs on Sept. 13. It's pretty cool. But it really is a different feel, and I found this a bit harder than other Millionaire games, like the iPhone app. Which I've won like ten times!

Who Wants To Be a Millionaire online game[/quote]

B.  Maybe you've won the jackpot like ten times because the database of questions used numbers in the dozens...or are you talking about beating the iPhone app that often?  Oy, the dizzy spells are starting up once again...
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I was referring to the iPhone app, not the online game. Which actually does duplicate quite quickly as I've now found out. But the iPhone app is pretty extensive, question-wise, and they update it as well. I don't think I've had that many repeat questions. I just play it a lot when I have to wait for stuff. (I've since  got into Words with Friends, but that relies on the other person taking a turn.)

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« Reply #179 on: September 12, 2010, 10:10:05 AM »
[quote name=\'IFeelMillionaire\' post=\'247274\' date=\'Sep 10 2010, 03:46 PM\'](I've since  got into Words with Friends, but that relies on the other person taking a turn.)[/quote]
Me too; I love it. My username is cwcarrion if you'd like to start a game sometime.
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