More Price is Right Updates

[JasonA1]

[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'246703\' date=\'Sep 2 2010, 12:33 PM\']I am just not in favor of games that could guarantee you enough money right up front so, when paired with your IUFB, you can slide into the 3rd slot on the Big Wheel or the 1st slot in the Showcase simply by default when up to 5 other players have to take risks or have to beat odds to try to earn those same positions.[/quote]

Part of an argument Matt has been bringing up with regard to the new direction of Price deals with whether you consider the show a serious test of pricing skill, or a fun collection of guessing games. I don't so much fall in either camp, but I can at least see here that you're far too concerned with equity in a format where everybody's ticket to the "bonus round" is a giant wheel of numbers.

-Jason

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'246709\' date=\'Sep 2 2010, 01:58 PM\']Part of an argument Matt has been bringing up with regard to the new direction of Price deals with whether you consider the show a serious test of pricing skill, or a fun collection of guessing games. I don't so much fall in either camp, but I can at least see here that you're far too concerned with equity in a format where everybody's ticket to the "bonus round" is a giant wheel of numbers.[/quote]
I love this comment so much.

[J.R.]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'246710\' date=\'Sep 2 2010, 04:11 PM\']I love this comment so much.[/quote]
Why don't you marry it then.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'246723\' date=\'Sep 2 2010, 04:10 PM\']Why don't you marry it then. [/quote]
Well, since you shot me down when I asked you to make me the happiest man in the world, I may have no choice.

[tpirfan28]

Pay the Rent's introduction could have the most powerful introduction for a game since easily Super Ball!!.  Love the idea of the $100,000 sign flying into a dimmed stage.

/G-R.net thread is making my head hurt

[TLEberle]

[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'246703\' date=\'Sep 2 2010, 12:33 PM\']I just used MG as an example of some of the games that are considered no-lose games.[/quote] I would say that if you ask someone who just "won" a hundred and twelve dollars at Money Game, or the piggy bank in Any Number, if they thought they lost, they're gonna say yes.

I am just not in favor of games that could guarantee you enough money right up front so, when paired with your IUFB, you can slide into the 3rd slot on the Big Wheel or the 1st slot in the Showcase simply by default when up to 5 other players have to take risks or have to beat odds to try to earn those same positions.

Huh? What if everyone wins their game? Someone still has to spin first. Can someone find some evidence to support the thing about the consolation money moving somebody up in the order?

[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'246709\' date=\'Sep 2 2010, 01:58 PM\']Part of an argument Matt has been bringing up with regard to the new direction of Price deals with whether you consider the show a serious test of pricing skill, or a fun collection of guessing games. I don't so much fall in either camp,[/quote]I don't think you can, really. (OK, I guess you could be all Serious Business, or Happy Fun Time over it, but you oughtn't.) There's also the show that we see on the screen, and the show that happens in the preparation, and the back end that most people don't know about. I think that the way things oughta be is that you put a great deal of effort into a final product where everyone is having fun, winning stuff and the atmosphere is frenetic and happy.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'246748\' date=\'Sep 2 2010, 08:40 PM\']Huh? What if everyone wins their game? Someone still has to spin first. Can someone find some evidence to support the thing about the consolation money moving somebody up in the order?[/quote]
Doesn't matter; the IUFB invalidates his argument, anyhow. There's already an element of luck there you can't get rid of.

[parliboy]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'246666\' date=\'Sep 1 2010, 01:06 PM\'][quote name=\'RyanCDN\' post=\'246664\' date=\'Sep 1 2010, 09:44 AM\']it is a good deal to risk $1,000 for a chance at $10K or $25K.[/quote]
Only if you are applying pot odds. Which you can't.
[/quote]

I'll stick my head on the block, then.  Why can't you?

[J.R.]

[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'246751\' date=\'Sep 2 2010, 11:20 PM\']I'll stick my head on the block, then.  Why can't you?[/quote]
Sorry if I'm "taking" the answer from Chris, but I would assume because you can only play the game once and Pot Odds are meaningless on a single attempt.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'246751\' date=\'Sep 2 2010, 09:20 PM\']I'll stick my head on the block, then.  Why can't you?[/quote]
Because you only get to play the game one time. Pot odds only work when you are applying them to multiple iterations of the same event.

[J.R.]

I call "JINX!"

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'246758\' date=\'Sep 2 2010, 09:30 PM\']I call "JINX!" [/quote]
Wow, same time and everything.

Fair enough. Next time you're in Seattle, look me up, the Coke is on me.

/particularly if I'm at work

[MikeK]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'246666\' date=\'Sep 1 2010, 02:06 PM\'][quote name=\'RyanCDN\' post=\'246664\' date=\'Sep 1 2010, 09:44 AM\']it is a good deal to risk $1,000 for a chance at $10K or $25K.[/quote]
Only if you are applying pot odds. Which you can't.[/quote]
I'll play the Devil's Advocate.  I'd risk $1000 (less, after taxes) for a one time only, over 10% chance at increasing your money at least 5-fold.  It's a once-in-a-lifetime chance to risk a modest amount of money to win enough for a nice new car.  If I'm a college student living off of ramen noodles, the situation might be different.

Signed,

"Moneybags" Klauss

[Matt Ottinger]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'246666\' date=\'Sep 1 2010, 02:06 PM\'][quote name=\'RyanCDN\' post=\'246664\' date=\'Sep 1 2010, 09:44 AM\']it is a good deal to risk $1,000 for a chance at $10K or $25K.[/quote]Only if you are applying pot odds. Which you can't.[/quote]
I'm with Klaussie.  I get the difference between one try and dozens of tries, but I still don't see why the fact that you only get one try somehow invalidates the odds involved.  There is a risk and there is a reward and there are, to some degree, calculable odds to help you make a decision.  I don't see why all of that doesn't matter just because you don't get to play it again and again.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'246792\' date=\'Sep 3 2010, 01:41 PM\']I'll play the Devil's Advocate.  I'd risk $1000 (less, after taxes) for a one time only, over 10% chance at increasing your money at least 5-fold.  It's a once-in-a-lifetime chance to risk a modest amount of money to win enough for a nice new car.  If I'm a college student living off of ramen noodles, the situation might be different.[/quote]
Except this is my exact point: you're placing a value on the money based on your financial position in life, not based on a pure mathematical formula.