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bwood

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« on: September 10, 2011, 02:39:41 PM »
This just came across the news feed on my phone. Haven't heard about this one:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/mtvs-substitute-sneak-peek-at-233637
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2011, 03:44:08 PM »
Quote from: bwood on September 10, 2011, 02:39:41 PM
This just came across the news feed on my phone. Haven't heard about this one:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/mtvs-substitute-sneak-peek-at-233637

As someone who's taken part in an MTV "game show", I can say with confidence...do not expect anything likeable to come from an MTV game show. They're complete crap, and they have the production values of crappy TV movies.
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2011, 03:54:59 PM »
Quote from: DoorNumberFour on September 10, 2011, 03:44:08 PM
Quote from: bwood on September 10, 2011, 02:39:41 PM
This just came across the news feed on my phone. Haven't heard about this one:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/mtvs-substitute-sneak-peek-at-233637

As someone who's taken part in an MTV "game show", I can say with confidence...do not expect anything likeable to come from an MTV game show. They're complete crap, and they have the production values of crappy TV movies.

I wonder if that statement makes Remote Control, Idiot Savants, Lip Service, Turn it Up and Singled Out--all studio-based MTV game shows from back in the '80s and '90s--look so well-produced by comparison?
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2011, 03:58:17 PM »
Quote from: DoorNumberFour on September 10, 2011, 03:44:08 PM
As someone who's taken part in an MTV "game show", I can say with confidence...do not expect anything likeable to come from an MTV game show. They're complete crap, and they have the production values of crappy TV movies.
It sounds like what you're saying is that because you had one negative experience, you are now qualified to say with certainty that no game show ever produced for MTV can possibly have any worth whatsoever.  Interesting perspective.
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2011, 04:08:43 PM »
Quote from: DoorNumberFour on September 10, 2011, 03:44:08 PM
Quote from: bwood on September 10, 2011, 02:39:41 PM
This just came across the news feed on my phone. Haven't heard about this one:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/mtvs-substitute-sneak-peek-at-233637

As someone who's taken part in an MTV "game show", I can say with confidence...do not expect anything likeable to come from an MTV game show. They're complete crap, and they have the production values of crappy TV movies.
That $1 on Next didn't do it for ya, huh?
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2011, 04:13:25 PM »
Quote from: Matt Ottinger on September 10, 2011, 03:58:17 PM
It sounds like what you're saying is that because you had one negative experience, you are now qualified to say with certainty that no game show ever produced for MTV can possibly have any worth whatsoever.  Interesting perspective.
Well, now, in his defense, he said "do not expect." I don't expect Ludia's GS products to be anything but utter crap (and Randy's fine voice work notwithstanding, Hole In The Wall did not disappoint), but that doesn't mean I can't be pleasantly shocked if I were to be proven wrong.

Admittedly, the latter half of his statement moves closer to a declarative as opposed to merely setting expectations.
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2011, 04:58:09 PM »
Quote from: Modor on September 10, 2011, 04:08:43 PM
That $1 on Next didn't do it for ya, huh?
Congratulations on proving his point.

The elevator pitch is that a game show is sprung on a classroom of high schoolers, and one of them ends up winning a cash prize at the end of class by playing various quiz games. The mechanic of "Surprise! You're on a game show!" is used beautifully on Cash Cab, and was interesting on Instant Recall but the game was barren. If this gets us away from another permutation of teenage Dating Game and back to fundamentals, that's fine by me.
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Jimmy Owen

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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2011, 08:15:32 AM »
It looks okay.  Anybody else getting a "Family Feud with facts" vibe?
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Matt Ottinger

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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2011, 09:27:47 AM »
Quote from: Jimmy Owen on September 11, 2011, 08:15:32 AM
It looks okay.  Anybody else getting a "Family Feud with facts" vibe?
Not really, to tell you the truth.  Now that you mention it, I certainly see the superficial visual similarity, but facing off like that is certainly not unique to the Feud.  Besides, I thought we already decided that Pointless was Family Feud with facts.
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2011, 10:01:18 AM »
Quote from: DoorNumberFour on September 10, 2011, 03:44:08 PM
As someone who's taken part in an MTV "game show", I can say with confidence...do not expect anything likeable to come from an MTV game show. They're complete crap, and they have the production values of crappy TV movies.

Mmmm. warm blanket statements.

'Silent Library' was watchable (depending on the contestants), as long as you knew going in what you were gonna get.
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2011, 10:17:51 AM »
Obviously, not destined for a long run once it hits the air, unless they get different "substitute" hosts.
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2011, 10:21:13 AM »
Quote from: Jimmy Owen on September 11, 2011, 08:15:32 AM
It looks okay.  Anybody else getting a "Family Feud with facts" vibe?
Closer to an elongated extension of the Greed "terminator" game.
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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2011, 12:56:28 PM »
Quote from: Jimmy Owen on September 11, 2011, 10:17:51 AM
Obviously, not destined for a long run once it hits the air, unless they get different "substitute" hosts.
How many episodes of Cash Cab are there?
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2011, 01:03:16 PM »
Quote from: Matt Ottinger on September 10, 2011, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: DoorNumberFour on September 10, 2011, 03:44:08 PM
As someone who's taken part in an MTV "game show", I can say with confidence...do not expect anything likeable to come from an MTV game show. They're complete crap, and they have the production values of crappy TV movies.
It sounds like what you're saying is that because you had one negative experience, you are now qualified to say with certainty that no game show ever produced for MTV can possibly have any worth whatsoever.  Interesting perspective.

What I meant to say was this: MTV does not produce game shows like Remote Control, Idiot Savants, etc. anymore. MTV produces their game shows the same way they produce Jersey Shore or any of their more popular shows--lots of post-production dialogue, scripted comebacks, and so on. And I'm saying not to expect anything as good as you can imagine--in the same way Nickelodeon announced BrainSurge a couple of years back and some people expected the return of Concentration.

I would LOVE to be proven wrong, but I lost faith in MTV putting out quality programming a long time ago.
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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2011, 01:29:22 PM »
Quote from: Joe Mello on September 11, 2011, 12:56:28 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Owen on September 11, 2011, 10:17:51 AM
Obviously, not destined for a long run once it hits the air, unless they get different "substitute" hosts.
How many episodes of Cash Cab are there?
Not sure, but CC has started having different hosts recently.
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