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chris319

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« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2011, 12:43:59 AM »
Another thing they could do to trip up pattern memorizers is to introduce a delay into all three plungers. Sometimes it's on, sometimes it's off, at random. The delay would have to be longer than the period one box is on.
But then you have no sense of control when you're hitting the button.
That's the whole idea, to throw off pattern memorizers. I think the producers wanted it to look like a random event like a slot machine, where you have no control over where the tumblers would stop. Joker was already using slot machine tumblers at the time and spinning a wheel like WOF would be too slow.
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« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2011, 12:53:22 AM »
That's the whole idea, to throw off pattern memorizers. I think the producers wanted it to look like a random event like a slot machine, where you have no control over where the tumblers would stop.
Then you don't put the stop trigger on a button. Period. At least not as an instant-stop.
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« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2011, 01:04:44 AM »
That's the whole idea, to throw off pattern memorizers. I think the producers wanted it to look like a random event like a slot machine, where you have no control over where the tumblers would stop.
Then you don't put the stop trigger on a button. Period. At least not as an instant-stop.
Well then how do you stop the board? If the house stops the board then it could seem as if the fix is in.

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« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2011, 01:13:33 AM »
Well then how do you stop the board? If the house stops the board then it could seem as if the fix is in.
Did anyone think the fix was in on The Joker's Wild? Lord knows they had a reason to.

My point is that I think it looks stupid on TV for there to be a one-bounce delay between the button and the actual stoppage, and in fact I think it looks no less fishy than the house doing it outright. If the button's going to stop the board, have it stop the board. If you're worried about pattern memorizers, then you either a) put in enough patterns so they can't be memorized (which is what they did when they realized that it was actually an issue), or b) figure out how to randomize the board (like we've been talking about). But you know as well as anyone that first and foremost we're making TV here, so it needs to look good.
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« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2011, 01:46:03 AM »
... first and foremost we're making TV here, so it needs to look good.

In that case, I vote for this guy:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHv9OJAsVWc[/media]

Watch his other videos.  I dare you.

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« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2011, 02:06:14 AM »
Watch his other videos.  I dare you.
I lasted exactly eleven seconds.
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« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2011, 03:19:43 AM »
... first and foremost we're making TV here, so it needs to look good.

In that case, I vote for this guy:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHv9OJAsVWc[/media]

Watch his other videos.  I dare you.

Oh my lord...What exactly would you call this? A Let's Play video?
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« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2011, 04:21:11 AM »
Actually, it's more like those video game runs that show up on there(i.e. Wheel of Fortune & Jeopardy!).  Only in this case, he was trying to "out Larsen himself".

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« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2011, 11:05:59 AM »
Watch his other videos.  I dare you.
I lasted exactly eleven seconds.

Minute-five. Dude sounds like has one of those throat boxes.

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« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2011, 10:55:20 PM »
Watch his other videos.  I dare you.
I lasted exactly eleven seconds.

Minute-five. Dude sounds like has one of those throat boxes.
I made it a minute into the beginning, then watched the last 5 minutes.

Talk about having a voice you just wanna slap.
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« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2011, 09:21:53 PM »
Well, either they did some set updates in the middle of the run like MtWI that just so happened to coincidentally fix this, or they caught on to you:

The set now has two screens. The 1-9 "boxes" are now in a horizontal row on this new screen, and do NOT use the offending animation. Not only does this make the clue screen a little tidier, this also of course, fixes that problem.

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« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2011, 09:40:29 PM »
Watch his other videos.  I dare you.
I lasted exactly eleven seconds.

Minute-five. Dude sounds like has one of those throat boxes.

Well, at least he's not as bad as this guy who LPs Wheel of Fortune games by recording his television while playing and pretends like he's playing along with the show.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeWoWE5p0fw&feature=related[/youtube]
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« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2011, 09:51:25 PM »
He had a 120 game run of $8,000,000.

Before his account got suspended. How about that. He has played enough to know the value of the round-two prize. Sigh.
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« Reply #43 on: December 26, 2011, 09:53:21 PM »
He had a 120 game run of $8,000,000.

Before his account got suspended. How about that. He has played enough to know the value of the round-two prize. Sigh.

So did I. The only difference between he and I is that I was just playing to play the game, not to record it and put it on YouTube.

(Granted, YouTube didn't exist at the time, but you get my point! ;))
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« Reply #44 on: December 26, 2011, 09:56:35 PM »
So did I. The only difference between he and I is that I was just playing to play the game, not to record it and put it on YouTube.

(Granted, YouTube didn't exist at the time, but you get my point! ;))
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