Susan Stafford appearance

[chad1m]

Yeahhh.... there's no subtitle on the mobile  version of this site. All detracting parties are free to send Mr. Nelson or Odor a fruit basket.

[pacdude]

Yeahhh.... there's no subtitle on the mobile  version of this site. All detracting parties are free to send Mr. Nelson or Odor a fruit basket.

But there's a fantastic little "Full Version" link at the bottom of the goddamn page.

[chad1m]

But there's a fantastic little "Full Version" link at the bottom of the goddamn page.

Clearly. But I'm not going to expect someone to use the full version on their phone when the mobile version is the one your phone directs to and is more convenient.

[PYLdude]

But there's a fantastic little "Full Version" link at the bottom of the goddamn page.

Clearly. But I'm not going to expect someone to use the full version on their phone when the mobile version is the one your phone directs to and is more convenient.

Well, when someone doesn't use it and asks a question that can be answered if they could be bothered to push that one button, how can you have sympathy for it? I mean, it isn't THAT hard.

[GrandGame1440]

My apologies for not adding the show in the body of the message, I didn't know it would appear that way on mobile devices.  Next time, I'll keep it mobile friendly. Carry on.

[Unrealtor]

But there's a fantastic little "Full Version" link at the bottom of the goddamn page.

Clearly. But I'm not going to expect someone to use the full version on their phone when the mobile version is the one your phone directs to and is more convenient.

Well, when someone doesn't use it and asks a question that can be answered if they could be bothered to push that one button, how can you have sympathy for it? I mean, it isn't THAT hard.

And how are we supposed to know that the detail we want is in the subtitle if we can't friggin' see it?

[pacdude]

But there's a fantastic little "Full Version" link at the bottom of the goddamn page.

Clearly. But I'm not going to expect someone to use the full version on their phone when the mobile version is the one your phone directs to and is more convenient.

Well, when someone doesn't use it and asks a question that can be answered if they could be bothered to push that one button, how can you have sympathy for it? I mean, it isn't THAT hard.

Rule 1 of mobile web usage: if you think you're missing something, look for the "full version" link. No excuses for "convenience."

[geno57]

If you've seen Dan's headstone at Find A Grave, you see how some of Dan's more orthodox associates were not happy with it.

Wow, that's quite an engraving, all right!

[PYLdude]

But there's a fantastic little "Full Version" link at the bottom of the goddamn page.

Clearly. But I'm not going to expect someone to use the full version on their phone when the mobile version is the one your phone directs to and is more convenient.

Well, when someone doesn't use it and asks a question that can be answered if they could be bothered to push that one button, how can you have sympathy for it? I mean, it isn't THAT hard.

And how are we supposed to know that the detail we want is in the subtitle if we can't friggin' see it?

That's not my problem, honestly.

[chad1m]

That's not my problem, honestly.

But yet you found it your problem to chastize him for the miscommunication that we're trying to explain in the first place?

Rule 1 of  mobile web usage: if you think you're missing something, look for the  "full version" link. No excuses for "convenience."

I figured rule one of forum posting would probably be to include all pertinent information in the body of the post.

[Dbacksfan12]

[quote name='PYLdude']That's not my problem, honestly.[/quote]Boy, that two years on moderated status did wonders, didn't it?

[PYLdude]

That's not my problem, honestly.

But yet you found it your problem to chastize him for the miscommunication that we're trying to explain in the first place?

The point- which you're missing- is that there is a simple solution to the problem that if one looked for it, one could find it VERY easily. Is the mobile site good? Yes, but there are limits to it, one of them being the inability to view certain things such as a full title. In that case, there is a way around that particular limit, which enables the user to view the full screen version of the site.

I mean, why am I the bad guy for telling someone the answer is right in front of his face if he can be bothered to look for it? How is that different from anyone who can't be bothered to Google information and instead poll the forum, or someone who asks an obvious question that they could simply find with the search function? I don't think I'm being unreasonable.

Boy, that two years on moderated status did wonders, didn't it?

I wouldn't talk, Mark. I'm shocked YOU haven't been put on modded status at any point- my attitude may not always be pleasant but yours isn't exactly sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows either.

[chad1m]

The point- which you're missing- is that there is a simple solution to the problem that if one looked for it,

I get the point. But I think my point supersedes that point, being "just put the information in the proper location and no one has to look for anything in the first place."

my attitude  may not always be pleasant but yours isn't exactly sunshine, lollipops,  and rainbows either.

Yes, but I don't think Mark has ever publicly declared to be trying to turn things around and then contacted someone who has criticized his "changed ways" in public when they appear to be patterning the same things we've seen before.
ETA: There's a thread about this in Behind the Scenes now, so I guess furthered discussion of this issue can be taken up there instead of polluting here.

[PYLdude]

The point- which you're missing- is that there is a simple solution to the problem that if one looked for it,

I get the point. But I think my point supersedes that point, being "just put the information in the proper location and no one has to look for anything in the first place."

I don't agree, although your point is valid. The information in this case, IMO, was easy enough to find. But to each his own.

my attitude  may not always be pleasant but yours isn't exactly sunshine, lollipops,  and rainbows either.

Yes, but I don't think Mark has ever publicly declared to be trying to turn things around and then contacted someone who has criticized his "changed ways" in public when they appear to be patterning the same things we've seen before.

Well, when I have people like you and Mark constantly watching my posts waiting for the slightest thing that might set you off and point and say "look look look same old crap", it kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

I mean, I don't understand a couple of things. The point should have simply ended with "full version". And it DEFINITELY should have ended when the dude of pac set everyone who wasn't straight straight. (That doesn't sound right, I know.) And I also don't understand why this was made into such a big deal- was it just because I said it?

Maybe we all (especially me) just need to breathe a bit. (I seriously didn't think my comments were going to cause THAT much of a stir, especially considering how easy things could have been found- and I'll keep hammering that point home, sorry.)

ETA: Okay, I didn't see that thread. But these are going to be my last comments on the issue so I'm sticking them here. Because the last thing I want to do is continue this any further than it's already gone.