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Matt Ottinger

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« Reply #45 on: April 02, 2012, 09:43:38 PM »
And the last sentence...  You Don't Know Jack was recorded in 2000/2001, and aired in the summer of 2001.  If you're referring to his pornography arrest, Wiki says it happened in 2002.

No balls, two strikes.
I'm certain GS87 is referring to the 2002 pornography arrest, which was contested -- both legally and in the court of public opinion -- and eventually dismissed.  Still, while it was close enough to almost clear the "in the same year" bar, the fact that it happened after YDKJ means of course that it had absolutely no bearing on what people thought of his performance as Troy Stevens.

So yes, strike two.
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« Reply #46 on: April 02, 2012, 10:00:15 PM »
Rolf Benershke (sp?) - Wheel of Fortune - what did Merv see in this guy?
The same thing Merv probably saw in Mike Reilly and Ty Treadway.  I'll keep that open to your own interpretation.
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« Reply #47 on: April 02, 2012, 11:53:13 PM »
And actually, I don't think Paul was miscast on YDKJ anyhow. He played the part of Douche Host Nonpareil to the hilt, and it worked. Which was about the only thing that worked.
I thought he was miscast, only because I found his character completely obnoxious. Cookie from the first PC game added the perfect amount of sarcasm to the game IMO.
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« Reply #48 on: April 03, 2012, 01:25:17 AM »
Mike Darrow - The $128,000 Question and Jackpot (revival) - replaced on both shows by Alex Trebek and Geoff Edwards, respectively

How is it miscasting in either one of those cases? Maybe you could say it about Trebek's replacing him but his Jackpot! ran for three frigging years while Geoff's, although through no fault of his own the second time, went off the air at midseason. I thought that Mike Dar(r)ow was a fairly decent host on both series.

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Patrick Wayne - Tic Tac Dough '90 - weeee looooooose

You know, there's a lot of other things Patrick Wayne did wrong as a host- the "YOU WIN" thing really isn't cutting it for me anymore as the primary reason.

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Lynn Swann - TTTT '90 - brought in to replace Gordon Elliott, who had his own contractual problems

How was that miscasting? If anything, the Gordon Elliott thing was a miscast because NBC and Goodson really didn't do their due diligence in regards to his contractual situation.

I think your inquiries here are more along the lines of "I didn't like this host so it was a miscast job" rather than being on the topic discussed.
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« Reply #49 on: April 03, 2012, 01:39:40 AM »
"I didn't like this host so it was a miscast job" .
But if you liked a guy's performance, you're not going to say he was miscast, are you?
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« Reply #50 on: April 03, 2012, 01:46:08 AM »
"I didn't like this host so it was a miscast job" .
But if you liked a guy's performance, you're not going to say he was miscast, are you?

I could say I liked Bill Cullen's attempt to hold the fort on TJW, but I could also say that his hosting style didn't help matters for an already dying show.

Which I do. While I don't give Bill as much crap as some have done for his work on Joker and think he made the best out of a bad situation (jumping in after Barry's death like he did), I also think they could've done better in picking a replacement.
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« Reply #51 on: April 03, 2012, 02:05:19 AM »
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Bill was brought in on PP to fill in for Allen Ludden who had surgery. I believe I read that Ludden requested him.
I'm afraid not. Bill was the producers' choice because he could pick up the format quickly.
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« Reply #52 on: April 03, 2012, 06:28:08 AM »
I think Paul Reubens as Troy Stevens was bad because it was evident that he was a character. I can't think of any game show where the host is clearly portraying a character worked. It was almost like watching a bad SNL skit instead of a real game show.

I disagree with whomever said Bill was miscast for PW+. I thought he did very well. It was also nice to see Bill's unique style blend in quite nicely with the format. As for TJW, he was a bit slow. Jack Barry ran the show at a brisk pace, even in the show's later years, so for the fans to suddenly see the pacing change might've been a turn off. Some of us know the story of when Jim Peck filled in for Bill Cullen. Jim ran the show as fast as Jack Barry used to, and they had to stop tape because they ran out of questions! The producers were used to Bill's pacing at that point.

Lynn Swann was fine on TTTT. I think he was only meant as a temporary replacement until another host could be found. Lynn was on the panel from time to time in the 1990 run, so he already knew the game.

Also, while I agree that Rolf and Michael Reilly were not the best choices to host their shows, I didn't have any problem with Ty Treadway on Merv Griffin's Crosswords. Was Merv really THAT involved with the show? His health was quite poor then, and I think he died before the show premiered on TV.

I think Ty was one of those hosts that just played the game, but added little to nothing personality-wise. I think Crossword's major problem was with the spoilers. It just seemed unfair that the two front players could accumulate all the money solving many words, then one of the spoilers takes all that money by only solving ONE word.

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« Reply #53 on: April 03, 2012, 10:28:48 AM »
No balls, two strikes.

If there were no balls, why'd he get arrested in the first place?
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« Reply #54 on: April 03, 2012, 06:09:28 PM »
Trebek and Classic Concentration: He was so bored with the show that the producer took away the role of explaining the rebus from him and gave it to the winning contestant.
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« Reply #55 on: April 03, 2012, 06:18:11 PM »
Trebek and Classic Concentration: He was so bored with the show that the producer took away the role of explaining the rebus from him and gave it to the winner contestant.
I disagree, I thought Trebek was rather enthusiastic and lively on CC. It's possible they let the contestants explain the rebuses to give them more interactivity?

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« Reply #56 on: April 03, 2012, 06:21:56 PM »
Trebek and Classic Concentration: He was so bored with the show that the producer took away the role of explaining the rebus from him and gave it to the winner contestant.
1/10. Not very believable at all.
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« Reply #57 on: April 03, 2012, 06:30:39 PM »
Trebek and Classic Concentration: He was so bored with the show that the producer took away the role of explaining the rebus from him and gave it to the winner contestant.
I'm afraid I'm going to need a source before I do anything but dismiss this accusation as yet another example of complete and total Alfonzo hogwash.
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« Reply #58 on: April 04, 2012, 10:22:26 AM »
Alfonzo hogwash.
Didn't he play Carlton on The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air?

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« Reply #59 on: April 04, 2012, 03:26:07 PM »
Alfonzo hogwash.
Didn't he play Carlton on The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air?
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