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Jamey Greek

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« on: December 29, 2003, 12:13:06 PM »
I have a few questions about unsold pilots that are not on Matt Kaiser's Game Show Website.

First of all, the Mark Goodson Produced Pat Sajak attempt at a Game Show called Puzzlers.  Who announced the show, and how was the game played?

the other is also a Goodson pilot hosted by Bill Anderson called Spell Binders what year was this taped, and what network was it supposed to be on?  and How was the game layed?

I also got a question on a Barry-Enright pilot that Wink Martindale did called Banko, who annonced that, how was the game played, and what year did it launch?

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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2003, 03:20:50 PM »
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First of all, the Mark Goodson Produced Pat Sajak attempt at a Game Show called Puzzlers.  Who announced the show, and how was the game played?

I think Chris C. said Puzzlers was set up like TPiR, except the mini-games were word games. Here's some set pics. Chris, do you remember how some of the games played, and were any of the games an inspiration for future game shows?

http://www.steveryangames.com/

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I also got a question on a Barry-Enright pilot that Wink Martindale did called Banko, who annonced that, how was the game played, and what year did it launch?

I remember seeing a trade ad for Banko in "Broadcasting" magazine...it was from 1986, and from what I saw it was some sort of Bingo game, and had an interactive element for the home viewers.  It didn't "launch," per se, but I assume it would've been a fall 86 entry.
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2003, 10:26:59 PM »
Let's play...

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From SplitSecond:
"I don't think we've talked about Spellbinders.

The best way I can describe it is to relate it to Scrabble's Speedword round, except that letters are revealed in order from first to last, and the two players have celebrity partners (Charles Nelson Reilly and Debralee Scott, as you can see in the picture).

The game starts with the "free-for-all" round, where everyone is read a clue to the word or phrase, which Bill then starts spelling one letter at a time. If the civilian jumps in and gets it wrong, the other civilian gets the next letter alone and gets a free guess; if the other civilian is wrong, it goes back to the first civilian with another letter and a free guess, and it volleys back and forth like that. If it's a celebrity that jumps in and is wrong, the word volleys between the two celebrities until one gets it.

A typical clue would be "No fun to take out" for "GARBAGE", or "It makes you stand" for "STARSPANGLEDBANNER" (spaces are eliminated, obviously).

That said, when someone gets a word right, their team gets $50 and 1 point. The first team to three points wins the "free-for-all" and then gets to play "Spellbinders" by themselves to add to their score.

In "Spellbinders", one member of the team goes backstage while the other comes up with three items in a category that Bill poses. For instance, in the category "Things you eat with spaghetti", possible answers would be "MEATSAUCE", "BREAD", and "WINE". Then, the other teammate comes back onstage, and the first teammate can use up to five letters (from the start of the respective words) to convey all three words. (Think of one of the Chain Reaction bonus games). Each word is worth $50. If the team is down to one letter, the team not playing has the chance to challenge the team "at bat" to get the word they're working on with that one last letter. $100 for the team "at bat" if they get the word, $100 for the challenging team otherwise.

The game then returns to the free-for-all (with doubled stakes), and the game goes back and forth between free-for-all and Spellbinders until one team reaches $500, winning the game.

The bonus round ("Lucky 7") features the winning contestant and both celebrities. The contestant is sent backstage, and the two celebrities each come up with an item in another category ("Card games", for instance), then solicits five more answers from the studio audience. The contestant comes back onstage and then has to guess all 7 items in 60 seconds, being shown only the first letter. The contestant can call for more letters in each word to help her out (not including the last letter), but that eats up time. Solving all 7 items earns the contestant a jackpot of $5000 + $1000 for each non-win.

The best part is that at the end of one of the pilots, you get this great shot of Debralee Scott staring at her watch. No offense meant at all to Mr. Ryan, but that was my reaction too. "

And now about Puzzlers, here is chris319:
"Puzzlers had an elaborate format with so many mini-puzzle games that it's hard to recall all of them 23 years after the fact. One puzzle game involved a picture or drawing of something enclosed on the top and bottom by blanks representing the letters in words associated with the picture, for example:

_ _ _ _ _ _ _

(PICTURE OF BIRD)

_ _ _ _ _

One by one the letters in the upper word were revealed:

M _ _ K _ N G

(PICTURE OF BIRD)

and then the letters in the lower word:

(PICTURE OF BIRD)

B R A _ N "

The game was also one of the first MG productions to use chyron.

-Jason
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2003, 11:17:35 PM »
The best way I can describe it is to relate it to Scrabble's Speedword round, except that letters are revealed in order from first to last, and the two players have celebrity partners (Charles Nelson Reilly and Debralee Scott, as you can see in the picture).
The game starts with the "free-for-all" round, where everyone is read a clue to the word or phrase, which Bill then starts spelling one letter at a time. If the civilian jumps in and gets it wrong, the other civilian gets the next letter alone and gets a free guess; if the other civilian is wrong, it goes back to the first civilian with another letter and a free guess, and it volleys back and forth like that. If it's a celebrity that jumps in and is wrong, the word volleys between the two celebrities until one gets it.


Sounds like the head-to-head game from The Magnificent Marble Machine, except that in that game, the clue "slid in" on a screen from left to right (sometimes Art James would read part of the clue first), and if the entire clue had not appeared when a team buzzed in and missed, the clue was revealed rather than a letter from the answer.  (Also, the spaces were always present in the answer, it took five to win, and I think that if somebody missed, only the next letter (or, if the entire clue had not been revealed yet, the remainder of the clue) was a "free guess" for the other team.)

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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2003, 11:28:14 PM »
Johnny Olson announced Puzzlers.

There was a string of G-T shows done for NBC in the late '70s when Fred Silverman was in charge. Some of them went to air while some of them didn't get past the pilot stage. In order (including non-NBC shows):

Card Sharks (spring 1978)

Spellbinders (pilot - summer 1978)

Password Plus (winter 1979)

Mindreaders (summer 1979)

(CBS) All New Beat the Clock (summer 1979)

Puzzlers (pilot - spring 1980)

(CBS prime time) That's My Line (summer 1980)

Blockbusters (fall 1980)

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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2003, 02:46:29 AM »
I recall reading in the trades about a G-T strip that Time-Life Television was selling at NATPE 1980 with Jack Narz as host titled "Phrase It."  Does that ring a bell?
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2003, 06:11:50 PM »
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Dec 29 2003, 11:46 PM\'] I recall reading in the trades about a G-T strip that Time-Life Television was selling at NATPE 1980 with Jack Narz as host titled "Phrase It."  Does that ring a bell? [/quote]
 No.

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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2003, 09:01:20 PM »
What about the 1989 [1990?] Name That Tune pilot hosted by the late Peter Allen? Googling it pulls up some rave reviews of it, but mentions very little of the format.