Big Brother and Let's Make a Deal to Finally Take the Plunge...

[Jimmy Owen]

According to Wikipedia: "Also in 1972, the last holdout among daytime network programs converted to color, resulting in the first completely all-color network season." Granted, grain of salt and all that, but that's a lot later than I thought it would be.

Of course, on Wikipedia, hosts are "presenters" and announcers are "narrators."

Which has what to do with the quoted statement?

Wikipedia is frequently incorrect.  The only thing on network daytime I can think of that might have been B&W in 72 would be the occassional Lucy or Bev. Hillbillies rerun.

[clemon79]

Wikipedia is frequently incorrect.

So using the terms "presenter" and "narrator"; the terms used in pretty much every English-speaking country in the world OUTSIDE of North America, that's "incorrect"? Is that really your argument?

[Thunder]

Since you took that bait, that makes his post an automatic 10 out of 10. Am I right on the scoring system?

[clemon79]

Since you took that bait, that makes his post an automatic 10 out of 10. Am I right on the scoring system?

It would if it wasn't known far and wide that I consider him to be nothing more than a common (and extremely poor) troll anyhow and was just trying to get it on the record that was what he was doing in the (probably misguided) hope that one day something is done about it.

[Thunder]

You won't lose any "King Of The Internet" points for admitting that you swallowed that bait like a 40 pound catfish.

[clemon79]

You won't lose any "King Of The Internet" points for admitting that you swallowed that bait like a 40 pound catfish.

Probably a good thing I'm not keeping score, then.

[TLEberle]

So using the terms "presenter" and "narrator"; the terms used in pretty much every English-speaking country in the world OUTSIDE of North America, that's "incorrect"? Is that really your argument?

I don't see how it could be anything else. "You shouldn't trust Wikipedia because they're frequently wrong" is at least defensible. The problem is appending "They are wrong in this case because they use terms that aren't commonly heard in this country". (He has many other problems, but that's just one.)

[Thunder]

Returning us back to the topic...

I suspect it's as Thunder was implying, getting all of those surveillance-type cameras upgraded to HD was probably cost prohibitive, hence them being a holdout.  I suppose they could have done a hybrid broadcast with HD main cameras (for the games and group interviews and whatnot) and then pillarbox the non-HD stuff, but it would have been disjointed.

The pan/tilt/zoom cameras that they use have got to have extremely sensitive controls and amazingly competent operators. We have lots of the high dollar ones at work. I've been using them for years but I still have trouble moving the controls perfectly to follow something or zooming in quickly.

[aaron sica]

The only thing on network daytime I can think of that might have been B&W in 72 would be the occassional Lucy or Bev. Hillbillies rerun.

That comment made me very curious so I had to look......If daytime reruns on the networks are taken into the equation, then the last possible link to B&W shows (assuming the B&W episodes would still be in the rotation) would be ABC's reruns of "Bewitched". The last telecast for that would have been 7/6/73. Replaced the following Monday with reruns of "The Brady Bunch".

[Ian Wallis]

ABC actually stopped running the black and white episodes of Bewitched after fall 1969.  It was nothing but the color episodes from then until 7/6/73.

CBS still rotated black and white episodes of Lucy and Beverly Hillbillies as late as about spring '71, but it was all color episodes after that date.

[aaron sica]

ABC actually stopped running the black and white episodes of Bewitched after fall 1969.  It was nothing but the color episodes from then until 7/6/73.

CBS still rotated black and white episodes of Lucy and Beverly Hillbillies as late as about spring '71, but it was all color episodes after that date.

Interesting! It makes me also wonder when those episodes were taken out of the syndicated rotation, too. IIRC, I don't ever remember seeing the B&W episodes until NaN started running the show....

[TimK2003]

Interesting! It makes me also wonder when those episodes were taken out of the syndicated rotation, too. IIRC, I don't ever remember seeing the B&W episodes until NaN started running the show....

If you are talking Bewitched, MeTV started out with the 1st season B&W eps. when they had Bewitched about a year or so ago.  MeTV is currently running the B&W seasons of The Beverly Hillbillies.

[Fedya]

I think Nick at Nite was running Bewitched long before there was a MeTV.

[BrandonFG]

I think Nick at Nite was running Bewitched long before there was a MeTV.

It was. I remember it airing there in the late-80s/early-90s.

[Mike Tennant]

I think Nick at Nite was running Bewitched long before there was a MeTV.

It was. I remember it airing there in the late-80s/early-90s.

Indeed. In fact, they even promoted the fact that they would be showing the B&W seasons (of which there were two, not three, as the promo suggests) that hadn't been seen in years: