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brianhenke

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« on: January 18, 2004, 10:45:18 AM »
Right now even as I speak, TV Land is running a Carol Burnett and Friends marathon, and just a few minutes ago the episode with the game show parody Up Your Income with guest stars The Pointer Sisters aired (favorite category: Disaster Movies Without Charlton Heston).

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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2004, 08:37:04 PM »
Any idea when this will air again?  I could use a vidcap or two of the Pointers from that sketch for one of my sites.
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2004, 12:32:29 AM »
Don't know exactly -- but if TV land plans on airing the show regularly, no doubt it will pop up again soon.
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2004, 10:29:24 AM »
Carol will be airing daily on TV Land at 4pm and 8pm eastern.



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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2004, 11:50:07 AM »
I checked the TV Land website and found that was Episode #62 in that series.  They will be airing the episodes in sequence starting today (1-19-2004) with Episode #1, so it will be a while before this one comes around again.

   Of note: My brother is currently receiving the Carol Burnett and Friends episodes on DVD from Columbia House.  There are two episodes of the show on each DVD, but you don't get the episodes in sequence, and none of the seven DVDs he has received of that series so far have The Pointer Sisters on them.


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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2004, 11:53:56 AM »
[quote name=\'snowpeck\' date=\'Jan 19 2004, 10:29 AM\']Carol will be airing daily on TV Land at 4pm and 8pm eastern.[/quote]
And since they're running them in syndication order, episode 62, the Pointer Sisters ep, should air on Saturday Mar. 20, barring pre-emptions.

There are 151 eps in the syndication package--which I believe is not the entire run of the series.  I also believe that every ep is a cut-down of one episode--they didn't make two half-hours out of an hour.

And there's no indication of whether the Family "Eunice Goes on the Gong Show" sketch is in the package--all of the running sketches (The Family, Carol and Sis, As the Stomach Turns) are listed without specification, other than guests, in TVL's ep guide.
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2004, 02:50:48 PM »
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Jan 19 2004, 10:53 AM\'] And there's no indication of whether the Family "Eunice Goes on the Gong Show" sketch is in the package [/quote]
 I love that pre-Mama'a Family sketch where Eunice sings "Feelings" on The Gong Show.  Jamie Farr, Jaye P. Morgan & Allen Ludden were the judges.
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2004, 06:48:21 PM »
I think the Gong Show sketch was part of the syndied version -- I recall seeing it on CB&F several years ago.
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2004, 06:55:30 PM »
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Jan 19 2004, 11:53 AM\'] [quote name=\'snowpeck\' date=\'Jan 19 2004, 10:29 AM\']Carol will be There are 151 eps in the syndication package--which I believe is not the entire run of the series. [/quote]
 Not even close, actually; the first ep of the syndie version is culled from the fourth episode of the sixth season (ep #138 out of 278 overall).

Which makes me wonder: do the earlier tapes exist? Only 18 full-length "Carol Burnett Shows" have made it to DVD release, and those could all very easily be from the '72-'78 years as well.

Slap me down if I've gone too far off-topic. I'll understand. :)

ObGS: A lot of game show tapes don't exist, either.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2004, 07:10:50 PM »
[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' date=\'Jan 19 2004, 06:55 PM\'] [quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Jan 19 2004, 11:53 AM\'] [quote name=\'snowpeck\' date=\'Jan 19 2004, 10:29 AM\']Carol will be There are 151 eps in the syndication package--which I believe is not the entire run of the series. [/QUOTE]
Not even close, actually; the first ep of the syndie version is culled from the fourth episode of the sixth season (ep #138 out of 278 overall).

Which makes me wonder: do the earlier tapes exist? Only 18 full-length "Carol Burnett Shows" have made it to DVD release, and those could all very easily be from the '72-'78 years as well.

Slap me down if I've gone too far off-topic. I'll understand. :)

ObGS: A lot of game show tapes don't exist, either. [/quote]
 How could a show taped in Studio 33 be off topic?  I would guess the shows are still around.  A good number of CBS variety shows have been put out on tape and DVD in very good quality.  Red Skelton, Ed Sullivan, etc.
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2004, 07:13:31 PM »
[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' date=\'Jan 19 2004, 07:55 PM\'] Slap me down if I've gone too far off-topic. I'll understand. :) [/quote]
 You're lucky, one of your moderators finds this subject endlessly interesting.

My guess is that all the older episodes exist, but when you have all that material to choose from, you can be choosy about what you put out to the public.  And while fans of TV history like us would probably enjoy seeing the really old ones, the heyday of the series was definitely the 1972-1977 period when the show aired on Saturday nights.  You've also got the nearly Orwellian effort on the distributors' part to pretend that Lyle Waggoner never existed, and the fact that most of the Conway-Korman schtick that's easy to promote happened between 1975-1977.

Still, my problem is with not being able to see the entire episodes as originally broadcast on TV Land, instead of the repackaged half-hour version.  Someone on this forum said it was because of musical rights issues, but the similarly-butchered Ed Sullivan half-hours still leave musical numbers intact.

I'd love to see the full-length episodes that are marketed on DVD, but unlike most TV collections, these (as well as others like the Muppet Show and the even-older Dean Martin Show) are a LOT more expensive on a per-episode basis.  Not really worth it to me (yet).
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2004, 07:25:48 PM »
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 19 2004, 05:13 PM\'] You've also got the nearly Orwellian effort on the distributors' part to pretend that Lyle Waggoner never existed [/quote]
 I hate to interject a short question into what is a deep and useful discussion, but why's this?
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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2004, 07:32:46 PM »
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 19 2004, 08:25 PM\'] [quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 19 2004, 05:13 PM\'] You've also got the nearly Orwellian effort on the distributors' part to pretend that Lyle Waggoner never existed [/quote]
I hate to interject a short question into what is a deep and useful discussion, but why's this? [/quote]
 No clue, really, and I base my impression merely on empirical evidence.  He's not been invited to the recent reunions, despite having been a regular about twice as long as Conway.  The clips they choose to use don't include him except fleetingly, and the storytelling that goes on seems to exclude him as well.  TV news reporting wasn't nearly as sophisticated back then, and I've never known whether he left on bad terms or not.
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2004, 08:25:00 PM »
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jan 19 2004, 06:13 PM\'] Still, my problem is with not being able to see the entire episodes as originally broadcast on TV Land, instead of the repackaged half-hour version.  Someone on this forum said it was because of musical rights issues, but the similarly-butchered Ed Sullivan half-hours still leave musical numbers intact.
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I'm not the one who mentioned it on this forum, but I believe the musical numbers issue was the reason for the paring of these shows down to a half hour in the first place (under the syndie umbrella title of CAROL BURNETT AND FRIENDS--this was not, I repeat, not TV Land's doing [for those that weren't aware before, now you are]).  

There were some shows in the syndie rerun package in which select musical numbers emerged unscathed; I believe there was also a second repackaging of other shows in which a few more musical numbers emerged (one of the telltale signs between the two packages was that Ernest Flatt, who did most if not all of the choreography, wasn't credited at all in the first rerun package but was in the second [yet assistant choreographers were]).

I may be wrong on this, but I don't think the 151 episodes that TV Land has represents the total number of episodes from the two packages (not trying to duplicate what Mark is saying here--I think both the syndie reruns and the actual broadcasts number more than 151 apiece).  I once saw a CB&F rerun where Bernadette Peters does a great tap-dance routine, but I couldn't figure out if that episode was in the TV Land package from its rather skimpy episode guide (I do believe it was touted in the infomercial set of Burnett shows--but there's no episode guide for those shows available anywhere).  But boy would I love to see that episode again.

Have I confused everyone further?  :)

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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2004, 10:55:06 PM »
[quote name=\'rugrats1\' date=\'Jan 19 2004, 05:48 PM\'] I think the Gong Show sketch was part of the syndied version -- I recall seeing it on CB&F several years ago. [/quote]
 I saw it when it was on CBS myself back in 1976-77.  Just before Harvey Korman left & Dick Van Dyke joined the cast.
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