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Matt Ottinger

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Peter Tomarken Pilots
« on: March 15, 2022, 05:16:29 PM »
It just occurred to me that Tomarken hosted four different pilots (Rodeo Drive, Wordplay, Monopoly, Whammy!) that eventually made it to air with somebody else hosting it.  Does any other host have a similarly unlucky track record of being involved with that many pilots but not in the series that followed?
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Re: Peter Tomarken Pilots
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2022, 05:47:40 PM »
Did Jack Narz do a Family Feud pilot? If so, Tattletales, 3 W's and The Movie Game would put him at four...
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Re: Peter Tomarken Pilots
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2022, 02:25:08 PM »
Did Jack Narz do a Family Feud pilot? If so, Tattletales, 3 W's and The Movie Game would put him at four...

Narz did a FF pilot? Never knew this...

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Re: Peter Tomarken Pilots
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2022, 02:50:41 PM »
Narz did a FF pilot? Never knew this...

I'd wager a lot that he didn't. Maybe an office runthrough. There were 3 pilots with Richard. I don't think Feud went through 2 rounds of pilots at different times. And from context, I think other names attached to Feud, like William Shatner and Geoff Edwards, got initial overtures before the format was locked down.

But Tattle Tales + Jack Narz is news to me. I remember reading Tattle Tales starting off with the title Celebrity Match Mates with Gene Rayburn attached, but hadn't heard this one.

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Re: Peter Tomarken Pilots
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2022, 03:14:48 PM »
There were 3 [Feud] pilots with Richard.
Interesting. I'd love to know more about these.
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Re: Peter Tomarken Pilots
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2022, 03:33:06 PM »
There were 3 [Feud] pilots with Richard.
Interesting. I'd love to know more about these.
Same. All I know is the one that circulates is #3.
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Re: Peter Tomarken Pilots
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2022, 04:12:09 PM »
There were 3 [Feud] pilots with Richard.
Interesting. I'd love to know more about these.

Now's as good a time as any to reiterate that doing multiple pilots was more common than not. I imagine for most shows where "the" pilot made it to the trading circuit, we're simply seeing the best one, used to shop the show. For instance, "the" pilot of Party Line that's been traded around is actually Party Line pilot #3.

My recollection of Feud is the Madvigs and Spiers played on all 3 shows. The first pilot was taped on a different day than the other two (Greg is right that the one on the circuit is #3). As opposed to "introducing..." the opening copy said "in this corner!!", which might explain how they settled on Feud's familiar answer reveal sound.

The master shot of the board in pilot 1 had the strike counter framed in it, and not the bank. After an answer flipped over, Richard would cue the adding to the bank (with the separate "ting" sound effect and normal camera shot) for every single answer, not just the first couple at the faceoff. You can see why they changed that very quickly. Other than that, save for little things like the strike graphic not having a box around it, it was mostly what you saw in the pilot that's been around. Pilot 2 was closer (if not identical) in style to pilot 3.

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Re: Peter Tomarken Pilots
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2022, 05:49:47 PM »
"the" pilot of Party Line that's been traded around is actually Party Line pilot #3.
Do you know if the first two pilots differed from #3, or when they were shot? Hot Streak is an underrated game in my opinion, and any new info about its predecessor is cool.

My recollection of Feud is the Madvigs and Spiers played on all 3 shows. The first pilot was taped on a different day than the other two (Greg is right that the one on the circuit is #3).
Any recollection of when the pilots were taped? I've seen both '75 and '76 listed for the one that circulates.

As opposed to "introducing..." the opening copy [of Pilot #1] said "in this corner!!", which might explain how they settled on Feud's familiar answer reveal sound.
Huh. First thing that came to my mind was the WCW vs. GLOW specials of the Combs era, which also used that line (for obvious reasons, and as part of a more elaborate intro, but still an interesting coincidence).
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Re: Peter Tomarken Pilots
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2022, 10:46:45 PM »
Any recollection of when the pilots were taped? I've seen both '75 and '76 listed for the one that circulates.
The one that circulates has a tape date of 5/6/76.
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Re: Peter Tomarken Pilots
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2022, 04:54:39 AM »
That seems like a short time to reconfigure the set (the pilot set was a bit cramped), built the familiar oval game board and get episodes taped to start airing July 12.  Was that short a turnaround from tape to air common?

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Re: Peter Tomarken Pilots
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2022, 06:52:42 AM »
Was that short a turnaround from tape to air common?

It seems like it, at least for G-T: the Blockbusters pilot was taped six days before the first episode aired.
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Re: Peter Tomarken Pilots
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2022, 08:42:51 AM »
Did Jack Narz do a Family Feud pilot? If so, Tattletales, 3 W's and The Movie Game would put him at four...

Narz did a FF pilot? Never knew this...
Narz did the Tattletales pilot? Never knew this either.
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Re: Peter Tomarken Pilots
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2022, 09:26:14 AM »
Did Jack Narz do a Family Feud pilot? If so, Tattletales, 3 W's and The Movie Game would put him at four...

Narz did a FF pilot? Never knew this...
Narz did the Tattletales pilot? Never knew this either.
That's news to me too... I knew about Gene Rayburn and Celebrity Match Mates, but not this.

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Re: Peter Tomarken Pilots
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2022, 10:58:46 AM »
Managed to find the relevant citation that was on my mind, an excerpt from This Day In Game Show History by our resident historian.

Among the jobs Narz missed out on: He hosted the pilot or The Who, What, or Where Game, which went to Art James; a pilot for The Movie Game, ultimately hosted by Sonny Fox and then Larry Blyden; a pilot for Tattletales, which went to air with Bert Convy at the helm; he was to host Family Feud, but Richard Dawson's contract as a Match Game panelist offered him a chance to become ad host and Dawson used that clause to commandeer Feud.

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Re: Peter Tomarken Pilots
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2022, 11:13:31 AM »
Managed to find the relevant citation that was on my mind, an excerpt from This Day In Game Show History by our resident historian.

Among the jobs Narz missed out on: He hosted the pilot or The Who, What, or Where Game, which went to Art James; a pilot for The Movie Game, ultimately hosted by Sonny Fox and then Larry Blyden; a pilot for Tattletales, which went to air with Bert Convy at the helm; he was to host Family Feud, but Richard Dawson's contract as a Match Game panelist offered him a chance to become ad host and Dawson used that clause to commandeer Feud.

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