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BUZZR 2023 Q1 happenings
MikeK:
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--- Quote from: Blanquepage on January 05, 2023, 11:04:22 AM ---1/20
Premiere of Ward TTTT, Star Words pilots 2 & 3, On a Roll pilot 2
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Would anyone have recorded these in a shareable fashion?
Much obliged for a chance to see.
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aY6LYn4z9-MamtieYXVu128mNbZoJ6qz/view?usp=sharing
BrandonFG:
Some thoughts from an insomniac after watching Lost and Found tonight.
Could be because I’m watching it on Pluto, could be the NYC cameras, could be because it’s a 42.5-y/o game show, but the TTTT episode looked very…”fuzzy” for lack of a better word. Almost felt like I was watching through a filter. Didn’t ruin my enjoyment, just something I noticed.
I haven’t seen the Star Words or On a Roll pilots in years, but after watching them tonight my thoughts remain the same. Clever concepts, clunky execution, slow game.
And in typical GSF fashion, I’m guessing Star Words replaces Child’s Play at 10:30 ET? On a Roll, OTOH is tough to figure out. Perhaps PYL’s 4:00 ET slot, but I have a feeling most affiliates wouldn’t pick up the show. Mayyyyyybe CBS is looking at canceling Capitol a little early and doing some reshuffling there? Put it on at 12:30 and push Y&R to 1:00?
Chelsea Thrasher:
--- Quote from: BrandonFG on January 21, 2023, 02:45:52 AM ---On a Roll, OTOH is tough to figure out. Perhaps PYL’s 4:00 ET slot, but I have a feeling most affiliates wouldn’t pick up the show. Mayyyyyybe CBS is looking at canceling Capitol a little early and doing some reshuffling there? Put it on at 12:30 and push Y&R to 1:00?
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Also probably worth noting that neither Card Sharks and Pyramid were exactly setting the books on fire at 10am. Pyramid had lost a few viewers in PYL's first freefall in the second half of 1985 and was, at times, losing to the Family Ties reruns on NBC (and with no competition on ABC). Card Sharks managed to recover most of the eyeballs PYL lost, but even then it was still losing more than it was winning against the not particularly massive numbers Sale was doing. Both the CBS and NBC hours were trading off 18 vs. 20 shares at the time the pilot was filmed with NBC getting more wins than losses, and I'd wager CBS were at least keeping their options open (on top of what was going on with Capitol and PYL's disasterous numbers at 4p). (and compare their 18-20 to the 30 average Price was doing, Wheel's 27, and even Scrabble's 22)
Additionally, Michael Brockman was still running Daytime at the time, and was generally open to piloting shows (especially from known developers like Goodson) and loved games.
(Ultimately, the show wasn't that great, plus Pyramid got a few viewers back, Card Sharks kept trading off time period wins with Sale and the balance shifted a bit more towards CS' favor, they decided to cut loss with the 4P half, and stay with a soap in the afternoon with Capitol's replacement. But there were at least four different options for the show)
tyshaun1:
--- Quote from: BrandonFG on January 21, 2023, 02:45:52 AM ---I haven’t seen the Star Words or On a Roll pilots in years, but after watching them tonight my thoughts remain the same. Clever concepts, clunky execution, slow game.
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I thought Star Words was decent with the Star Wars-like transitions and the game itself was solid but slow, especially the front end, but do you need another word game following a word game? And one that's not as fast paced? On A Roll was just simply too cumbersome and the 2nd pilot exposed the flaw of having the game go on too long and possibly won by a player who didn't actually play the main game.
--- Quote from: BrandonFG on January 21, 2023, 02:45:52 AM ---And in typical GSF fashion, I’m guessing Star Words replaces Child’s Play at 10:30 ET? On a Roll, OTOH is tough to figure out. Perhaps PYL’s 4:00 ET slot, but I have a feeling most affiliates wouldn’t pick up the show. Mayyyyyybe CBS is looking at canceling Capitol a little early and doing some reshuffling there? Put it on at 12:30 and push Y&R to 1:00?
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CBS did several game show pilots in 1986 (On A Roll, Keynotes, Blackout), possibly due to the relative weakness of Card Sharks, and Brockman mentioned it as a liability as early as June that year in a Broadcasting Magaizne article. I don't think there was any hope for the 4pm slot no matter what they put on because affiliates simply did not carry said show (Body Language and PYL did single share poorly) or put it in a different slot. In fact, the week after dropping programming for it, CBS became the #1 daytime network and hasn't lost it since. They were already in development on The Bold and the Beautiful by this point so I think the writing was on the wall for Capitol, too.
Chief-O:
--- Quote from: BrandonFG on January 21, 2023, 02:45:52 AM ---Could be because I’m watching it on Pluto, could be the NYC cameras, could be because it’s a 42.5-y/o game show, but the TTTT episode looked very…”fuzzy” for lack of a better word. Almost felt like I was watching through a filter. Didn’t ruin my enjoyment, just something I noticed.
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I did catch bits of that, and I noticed some noise on the bright red neon sign.....sounds like it might've been more a tape issue. (I can't eliminate bad camera tube adjustments, though) But then again, it always seemed shows out of 30 Rock did look like that (even SNL of that time).....might've been some different methodology in camera setup.
There was at least one TTTT '80 ep I saw on GSN way back where it seemed the lenses, or perhaps the cameras' internals, were visibly dusty.
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