when did CBS stop calling it TC

[bradhig]

When did CBS stop calling the studio that hosts TPIR televsion city?

[BrandonFG]

[quote name=\'bradhig\' date=\'Mar 15 2004, 01:06 PM\'] When did CBS stop calling the studio that hosts TPIR televsion city? [/quote]
 Would it be about the time it was renamed the Bob Barker Studio, spring 1998?

BTW, H2 (which tapes in 33/BBS), still labels itself as being taped in TV City.

[SRIV94]

[quote name=\'bradhig\' date=\'Mar 15 2004, 12:06 PM\'] When did CBS stop calling the studio that hosts TPIR televsion city? [/quote]
 I wasn't aware that they ever stopped calling it "Television City."

Granted, nowadays announcers don't make the announcement as Rod used to do on PYL, "From Television City in Hollywood!" (what a concept--announcers making announcements)  But even before they renamed 33 for Barker I don't think Johnny or Rod ever used the "fTCiH" line in introducing TPiR (Johnny also never used it on MG7x).

I couldn't begin to speculate on the reasons why the line fell out of use.  But just because the line hasn't been used doesn't mean that Television City isn't still the name of CBS' west coast facility (a place I'm planning to visit for the very first time this summer).

Doug

[EmiOfBrie]

From what I understand, the building itself is still "Television City", and that one specific studio within the building is the Bob Barker Studio....

[Steve_Bier]

I seem to remember the announcer proclaiming the "TC" announcements on many shows...Tattletales, Family Feud (Combs), PYL, Pyramid, et al. Why they stopped doing this, is beyond me......

[JasonA1]

But even before they renamed 33 for Barker I don't think Johnny or Rod ever used the "fTCiH" line in introducing TPiR

Actually, one of the multitude of openings in the first year or so contained the line, "and now, from Television City in Hollywood, here's the star of the new Price is Right..." And in yet another, it opened up: "FROM Television City in Hollywood, a fortune in fabulous prizes may go to these people today..."

-Jason

[SRIV94]

[quote name=\'JasonA1\' date=\'Mar 15 2004, 02:18 PM\']

But even before they renamed 33 for Barker I don't think Johnny or Rod ever used the "fTCiH" line in introducing TPiR

Actually, one of the multitude of openings in the first year or so contained the line, "and now, from Television City in Hollywood, here's the star of the new Price is Right..." And in yet another, it opened up: "FROM Television City in Hollywood, a fortune in fabulous prizes may go to these people today..."

-Jason [/quote]
 Didn't realize that.  I didn't really wise up to Johnny O.'s intro until the late seventies, by which time the line was not incorporated into his spiel (and the few half-hour TPiR episodes I remember GSN showing I don't think had that line, but I could certainly be wrong about that).

Doug

[Card Shark]

[quote name=\'Steve_Bier\' date=\'Mar 15 2004, 01:44 PM\'] I seem to remember the announcer proclaiming the "TC" announcements on many shows...Tattletales, Family Feud (Combs), PYL, Pyramid, et al. Why they stopped doing this, is beyond me...... [/quote]
 On the CBS Tic Tac Dough, it began "From Television City in Hollywood, it's everyone's favorite game of..." yadda yadda yadda.

[uncamark]

[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Mar 15 2004, 01:22 PM\'][quote name=\'bradhig\' date=\'Mar 15 2004, 12:06 PM\'] When did CBS stop calling the studio that hosts TPIR televsion city? [/quote]
I wasn't aware that they ever stopped calling it "Television City."

Granted, nowadays announcers don't make the announcement as Rod used to do on PYL, "From Television City in Hollywood!" (what a concept--announcers making announcements)  But even before they renamed 33 for Barker I don't think Johnny or Rod ever used the "fTCiH" line in introducing TPiR (Johnny also never used it on MG7x).

I couldn't begin to speculate on the reasons why the line fell out of use.  But just because the line hasn't been used doesn't mean that Television City isn't still the name of CBS' west coast facility (a place I'm planning to visit for the very first time this summer).[/quote]
A combination of things--generally, shows that produce at TV City either have no announcer or don't want to advertise that they're at a facility associated with CBS (that would be syndication or "Idol"), although they may run the credit at the end.  Also, since G-T shows were so spotty on using the TV City ID, I suspect that Goodson didn't like using that line and tried to fight it.

On the other hand, every day the announcer on the Disney-owned, airing on mostly-ABC-owned stations "Wayne Brady Show" proclaims "From Television City in Hollywood!" in her intro--so what do I know?

[Terry K]

I recall, even Burton never said that on NTPIR '94 anything about TV city.  

A lot of it is that TV city implies CBS.   It just leads to confusion.  (Squares and Bill Maher's show credit TV City at the end though)

[chris319]

Outside of TPIR, Kilborn and the two soaps, what other CBS network shows tape there any more? If the producer of a syndicated show or a show for another network is shooting there and is paying beaucoup bucks for the privelege, CBS has no real leverage in requiring them to open their shows with that silly line. You certainly don't open a soap opera with it.

[SplitSecond]

Most of the reason the Television City ID was perpetuated was because Mike Ogiens mandated it when he was in charge there.  I have no idea when and why the mandate was dropped, if it coincided with Ogiens's departure, or why certain Goodson-Todman shows were exempt from the mandate.

I do know that Price was "strong-armed" into using the ID phrase early on, which accounts for the experimentation mentioned earlier in the thread.  I do have to wonder why that ceased, though.  Maybe Goodson said, "Well, we'll just take this show to ABC, then" - a phrase he learned was a nice little leveraging tool on several occasions.

[chris319]

Mike Ogiens was never in charge of TV City. He may have required a few non-GT game shows to use the line when he was head of daytime.

The notion that Goodson would threaten to take New TPIR to ABC is laughable for several reasons. In actuality all Mark had to do was pick up the phone and call his friend Bill Paley (or at least threaten to). Matter solved.

Not so laughable is that Family Feud almost wasn't an ABC show for somewhat similar reasons, and that ABC never got a look at the Puzzlers pilot, but that is grist for another thread.

[SRIV94]

[quote name=\'SplitSecond\' date=\'Mar 16 2004, 06:15 AM\'] I do know that Price was "strong-armed" into using the ID phrase early on, which accounts for the experimentation mentioned earlier in the thread.  I do have to wonder why that ceased, though.  Maybe Goodson said, "Well, we'll just take this show to ABC, then" - a phrase he learned was a nice little leveraging tool on several occasions. [/quote]
 Even into the late 1980s, though, the line still found its way into some CBS G/T shows.  The early days of Combs FF and the entire run of NYSI89 did manage to get the line in, however, they sneaked it in at the end of the show rather than at the beginning (following the lead of BLACKOUT, a non-G/T show which had the announcer use the line before telling you who he was--might have been Dean Goss).

And CS86 did use it at the top of the show for a few months, before they decided to emphasize the $32,000/new car.

Doug

[zachhoran]

[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Mar 16 2004, 11:17 AM\'] (following the lead of BLACKOUT, a non-G/T show which had the announcer use the line before telling you who he was--might have been Dean Goss).

 [/quote]
 Blackout had Johnny Gilbert as announcer, and Jay STewart stood in on the final week of shows. As most know, that was Jay Stewart's last time behind the mike.