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SuperMatch93

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Game Shows at the Library of Congress
« on: March 09, 2025, 10:16:26 PM »
We've had similar threads about The Paley Center before, but I don't recall us discussing this:

I plan on being in Washington, D.C. the last week of March, and I want to spend an afternoon at the Library of Congress. Has anyone gone there to view their A/V collection for any rare episodes of game shows? For instance, they have audio of four episodes of Sale of the Century from 1969-70, and I plan on putting in a request to have access to those.

Anyone have any other recommendations for things to keep an eye out for?
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Eric Paddon

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Re: Game Shows at the Library of Congress
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2025, 11:55:01 PM »
The LOC has some episodes of the 60s Match Game that have never circulated but whether they've been transferred or not is an open question:

1/2/63   LC   Arlene Francis, Skitch Henderson
6/24/63   LC   Florence Henderson, Henry Morgan
8/20/63   LC   Faye Emerson, Henry Morgan
11/21/63   LC   BW, Shelley Berman
5/19/65   LC   Lauren Bacall, Roger Smith
6/2/65   LC   Joe Garagiola, Whitey Ford
9/23/65   LC   Jayne Meadows, Sydney Chaplin

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Re: Game Shows at the Library of Congress
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2025, 05:29:52 PM »
Wheel of Fortune from December 15, 1982 (Vanna's third permanent show) also resides there and has been digitized.

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Re: Game Shows at the Library of Congress
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2025, 05:34:54 PM »
Wheel of Fortune from December 15, 1982 (Vanna's third permanent show) also resides there and has been digitized.
That one's actually already circulating, been posted in a couple places.
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Re: Game Shows at the Library of Congress
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2025, 12:35:43 AM »
Anyone have any other recommendations for things to keep an eye out for?

Two of relevance, one which we've discussed before, and one we haven't:

1) The Library of Congress, along with UCLA, received the bulk of the kinescope library of Goodson-Todman Productions- spreadsheets of the collection are linked to here, and it includes quite a bit that has never been rebroadcast.

2) As part of the Library of Congress's holdings of the NBC Collection, there are episodes of game shows (as demonstrated here)- however, while the radio end of the NBC Collection has been well-indexed, there seems to be no public information concerning the television holdings, so I have no clue how substantial these materials are.

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Re: Game Shows at the Library of Congress
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2025, 05:54:21 AM »
Anyone have any other recommendations for things to keep an eye out for?

Two of relevance, one which we've discussed before, and one we haven't:

1) The Library of Congress, along with UCLA, received the bulk of the kinescope library of Goodson-Todman Productions- spreadsheets of the collection are linked to here, and it includes quite a bit that has never been rebroadcast.

2) As part of the Library of Congress's holdings of the NBC Collection, there are episodes of game shows (as demonstrated here)- however, while the radio end of the NBC Collection has been well-indexed, there seems to be no public information concerning the television holdings, so I have no clue how substantial these materials are.

Ooh, Concentration! My appetite is whetted.

I may contact the research librarians there for specifics, due to some of their stuff not being catalouged.
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Re: Game Shows at the Library of Congress
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2025, 05:18:12 PM »
I got to view a bunch of cool pilots when I was last out. CBS's primetime Celebrity Name Game, a GSN Dating Game from the late 00s, the original Gong Show pilot, and a 2006 for a revival of Child's Play.

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Re: Game Shows at the Library of Congress
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2025, 06:36:13 PM »
1) The Library of Congress, along with UCLA, received the bulk of the kinescope library of Goodson-Todman Productions- spreadsheets of the collection are linked to here, and it includes quite a bit that has never been rebroadcast.

My understanding is that the G-T kinescope library was split, roughly in thirds, between the Library of Congress, UCLA and The Paley Center.  There is a little bit of duplication in the collections because one organization or another may have already had kinescopes from previous donations.  The G-T collection was the company library, of course, but other kinescopes were made for each episode for various reasons, and many of them have independently made their way to one or more of the three organizations.

A couple months ago, a friend visited the Library of Congress and watched four Secret episodes that I had asked him to check out.  He had no problem viewing all four.  I don't know whether that means that the LoC has already digitized their G-T holdings, or if they're just very, very generous about taking requests.
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Re: Game Shows at the Library of Congress
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2025, 03:01:00 PM »
CBS's primetime Celebrity Name Game, a GSN Dating Game from the late 00s…

I don’t think I’d heard of these. Would anyone share more about them? Was the CBS Name Game the same as what got syndicated? What was GSN Dating Game like? Was it meant to be a companion to its Newlywed Game? Was Michael Davies involved?

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Re: Game Shows at the Library of Congress
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2025, 03:41:06 PM »
I thought the Dating Game pilot was actually for CBS, in the timeslot that eventually went to LMAD? But the idea of it being a companion series for GSN makes more sense.
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Re: Game Shows at the Library of Congress
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2025, 05:52:20 PM »
Over 30-some years ago I spent a few days in Chicago and visited the Museum of Broadcasting, somewhere in The Loop.

That was my first experience with viewing older game shows.

Are they still around? And are they affiliated with the Library of Congress, the Paley Center or another group elsewhere in the country?

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Re: Game Shows at the Library of Congress
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2025, 07:15:09 PM »
Over 30-some years ago I spent a few days in Chicago and visited the Museum of Broadcasting, somewhere in The Loop.

That was my first experience with viewing older game shows.

Are they still around? And are they affiliated with the Library of Congress, the Paley Center or another group elsewhere in the country?

They're still there (at a new building since then) but their viewing room to the best of my knowledge is no longer open.
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Re: Game Shows at the Library of Congress
« Reply #12 on: Today at 06:15:28 AM »
And are they affiliated with the Library of Congress, the Paley Center or another group elsewhere in the country?

Based on this, it would appear that the Museum of Broadcast Communications has no formal connection with the LoC, the Paley Center, or the UCLA Film and Television Archive.

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Re: Game Shows at the Library of Congress
« Reply #13 on: Today at 07:42:40 AM »
I got to view a bunch of cool pilots when I was last out. CBS's primetime Celebrity Name Game, a GSN Dating Game from the late 00s, the original Gong Show pilot, and a 2006 for a revival of Child's Play.

Pls clarify - which collection are these in?
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