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« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2003, 03:39:06 AM »
[quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Jul 4 2003, 03:36 PM\'] I actually kinda liked it when they made it so that whatever you picked-up in the main game was yours to keep no matter what. [/quote]
 Was there a time on the Perry $otC when this _wasn't_ the case? I always remember Perry commenting when someone bit on an Instant Bargain that the prize (and whatever attached bribe / Sale Surprise) was \"yours to keep no matter how you finish in the game\". Hell, that was the POINT of an Instant Bargain!

Maybe I'm wrong, but what I think Cliff is referring to is the shopping era where you either bought a prize and retired, or put your accumulated dollars on the line for a chance to win something bigger, as opposed to the Winner's Board where you kept whatever prize you matched with each win and didn't have to risk anything to come back the next day.
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« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2003, 03:40:10 AM »
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Worst host: It has to be Mike Rielly. The man had the personally of a computer game. The man blabbed so much and so fast, I'd always wonder if the man needed a oxygen mask after taping Monopoly. (Thats why it should of been a hour-long game, but thats another thread)

I wonder, though, how much of that was his being a bad host. If there weren't so much talk squeezed in between every single question explaining the game, if he didn't have to talk two miles a minute almost nonstop through the entire show...  I'm not trying to claim he was a good host, only that there's not enough to go on either way, especially with only 12 episodes.

Then again, I liked the new bonuses in the 1991 Pyramid, too:) Except Gamble for a prize.


Oh, my list: Well... worst show: Throut and Neck. Only good thing I've heard *anyone* say about it was that the host was pretty. I didn't particularly care for her though, and there are plenty of *good* TV shows that also feature beautiful women.

Worst format change: the more you love something, the more you hate to see it ruined. Bullseye was good on the CBS Feud when it expanded, because it gave the show enough variety not to get tiring over a whole hour. But it had no business on the half-hour version. Bankroll was even worse because of the slower pace, and though I didn't mind at first, the current scoring system grates more and more every time I watch.

I'll also throw in the judging/judging-related rules on the new Pyramid. I can't explain why, except that on previous versions the rules, though complicated when spelled out, felt natural. It just makes sense to be able to use part of the answer once your partner's said that part, for instance, and for the rules of what clues and answers are and are not acceptable in the Winner's Circle to be the same from start to finish.

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« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2003, 07:54:30 AM »
My nomination for the best of the worst is What's Going On?, an Allan Sherman creation which IIRC Mark Goodson himself mentioned was his worst show.  It could be for either a clueless host or for the technical challenges in which primitive and bulky TV equipment were involved and the resulting technical problems because of the primitive early 1950s equipment.

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« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2003, 04:26:16 PM »
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Bankroll was even worse because of the slower pace, and though I didn't mind at first, the current scoring system grates more and more every time I watch.
RD complained about the Bullseye part on E!THS, yet they went with the Bankroll thing which was almost the same thing (albeit only 3 questions instead of 5).

What the hell was he smoking?

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« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2003, 04:52:40 PM »
[quote name=\'catnap1972\' date=\'Jul 5 2003, 03:26 PM\'] What the hell was he smoking? [/quote]
 What the hell makes you think he was responsible for it?

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« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2003, 01:56:19 AM »
Time to throw my two cents into the subject.

Worst game show: Bargain Hunters (and I'm sure Peter Tomarken will agree with me on that one)

Worst game show theme: the current incarnation of Pyramid.  No Tuning Up??? It's bad enough that the set is boring and the famous cuckoo and ticking sound in the Winner's Circle is not used.

Worst game show host: Patrick Wayne, all the way.  Too phony, and his YOU WIN! shout turned everybody off very quickly.  Wink Martindale he's not! Honorable mention: Rolfe Benischrke, Clark Race, and Jim Caldwell.  I would have added Pat Finn to that list, but he does a helluva job with Big Spin here in California -- he's gone farther than I originally had thought.

Worst game show sound: the horrendous and scary horn on the original Hollywood Squares.  Just ask Tony Randall.

Worst bonus/end game: The $ale of the Century's Winner Big Money Game was neat to watch, but it did not belong on THAT game show.  Whoever came up with that idea pretty much killed $OTC in the process.    The Joker's Wild's Jokers and Devils end game wasn't too good either -- spin three jokers and win a prize.  No thanks, I'll take the money and devils end game.

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« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2003, 03:58:10 PM »
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Worst game show sound: the horrendous and scary horn on the original Hollywood Squares.  Just ask Tony Randall.


But such a wonderful device for funny reactions on a comedy show.  That's why they had it (and remember, even Peter referred to it as \"The Tacky Buzzer\").

To me, the worst sound effects always were bells and buzzers recorded poorly or on miscued or worn-out tape cartridges.  NBC Burbank was guilty of that a lot (nothing like the \"Wheel\" letter-in-puzzle bell sounding wobbly), but the champions in that line was the B&E buzzer with the reverb cut off instead of naturally dying away and the canned, wobbly tape end game bell on \"TTD.\"  *That's* when I knew that \"TTD\" had left TV City for KCOP--when the live bells and buzzers were replaced by those canned monstrosities--and I never understood why they put those things on tape--to trigger them from the audio board rather than offstage?

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« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2003, 03:40:30 PM »
THEME SONG: Osmand's \"Pyramid\"

HOST: Pat Finn, a wedge of cheese has more personality

FORMAT CHANGE: Password All-Stars, all of it was horrid execpt Ludden, and the wonderful theme

SHOW: Inquization

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« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2003, 06:49:57 PM »
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RD complained about the Bullseye part on E!THS, yet they went with the Bankroll thing which was almost the same thing (albeit only 3 questions instead of 5).

Also, the families each chose 1 person to play the entire round, as opposed to going down the line for the 5 Bullseye questions.

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« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2003, 11:14:11 PM »
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RD complained about the Bullseye part on E!THS, yet they went with the Bankroll thing which was almost the same thing (albeit only 3 questions instead of 5).

Also, the families each chose 1 person to play the entire round, as opposed to going down the line for the 5 Bullseye questions.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby") [/quote]
 ...Also, the questions were worth $1,000, $3,000, and $5,000, instead of $1,000, $2,000, $3,000, $4,000, and $5,000.

...Also, the entire game was played on a Chyroned graphic instead of using the projection TV.

...Also, the 1994 Dawson version of the show was distributed wholly by syndication instead of the mixed syndication / network model the Combs show enjoyed.

...Also, the show's theme is now heard as a TPiR cue.

...Also, people who nitpick crap like this REALLY piss me off.
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« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2003, 12:11:43 PM »
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...Also, people who nitpick crap like this REALLY piss me off.

Nitpicking? I was merely pointing out what I feel was the other fundamental difference between the Bullseye and Bankroll rounds, which some people may not have known or just forgotten. How would that piss you off? It wasn't as if I made it totally irrelevant by citing every difference between Dawson's return season and the last 2 yrs of Combs, as you sarcastically did.

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« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2003, 12:46:18 PM »
Worst Show: Reel to Reel Picture Show. Man, this show was so bad that we used to make fun of it during our lunches at work. We'd watch and do the MST3k thing to it. What a train wreck.

Worst host: Peter Marshall for Reel to Reel. He's a legend no doubt, but here he was the worst. He'd fumble questions and look painfully uncomfortable. I like Pete, I really do, and I'm sure he wasn't given much to work with...but man...it's good it didn't come at the beginning of his career or that beginning would have been his end.

Worst endgame:Gotta agree with the \"History IQ\" mention. It was boring and hard to follow.

Worst format change: I don't really look at the change in Carmen Sandiego as a format change as much as a whole different show...so I'll go with Card Sharks '01 and the stupid video thing. Blah.

Worst theme: I must say that I liked the Monopoly theme. For worst, I go with WOF's 94 \"swing\" version. Double blah. Maybe it wouldn't have seemed so bad if it didn't replace such a memorble song.
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« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2003, 02:43:16 PM »
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Split Second's bonus was the very definition of anti-climatic, especially when coming off of a really good Countdown Round. It was nothing but pick a number 1-5. That's it. Nothing else. Very blah.


For the '86 version, you had to pick a number between 1-5, but in reality that's all the original \"Split Second\" end game was - pick a car between 1 and 5 and hope it starts.

Having said that, I still think \"Split Second\" was a great show.
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« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2003, 02:45:30 PM »
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Worst Format Change: The increadbly stupid board changes made on PYL. M1S to $1500 or $500. PAC: $1400, $500+, $1400...


They did change that board around quite a bit over the three-year run, didn't they.  I think it was noted somewhere that at one point there were so many extra spin spaces on the board the producers had to start taking some off.  By the time you get to summer 1986 shows, there are noticably fewer on the board.  And Pick a Corner was gone by the last month of the run.
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« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2003, 02:47:57 PM »
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Theme Song-Go--repetitive and annoying;


I agree.  While I'm always on the lookout for more themes, I could have done without \"Go\"on the first CD.  I never really cared for it...
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