TPIR Second Edition from Endless Games

[curtking]

From the Endless Games site:

"Come on down" to the longest running game show in television history! From the opening bid to the showcase showdown, all the fun of the popular game show is back! With 30+ games from the World's most popular game show, you can bring home the excitement of actually having Bob Barker in your living room. Did you correctly guess the price on the grandfather clock? Is the box of detergent higher or lower than $3.99? The tension is high... and the prizes are plenty, if... THE PRICE IS RIGHT™!

It's listed on the "New Stuff" page...wonder when it will be in stores?

Curt

[Vgmastr]

The creator of the game posts at the golden-road.net forums.  According to him, there will be 45 pricing games, and he has a list of them at this website.

[Dbacksfan12]

[quote name=\'Vgmastr\' date=\'Mar 25 2004, 11:33 PM\'] The creator of the game posts at the golden-road.net forums.  According to him, there will be 45 pricing games, and he has a list of them at this website. [/quote]
I question the integrity of the list, for I noticed that "Plinko" is among the games.  Unless they give you a mini-plinko board...[which I doubt], I don't see this happening.

I was, however, amused to see everyones favorites--Pick a Number and Joker among the listed games.

[Don Howard]

[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 12:38 AM\'] [quote name=\'Vgmastr\' date=\'Mar 25 2004, 11:33 PM\'] The creator of the game posts at the golden-road.net forums.  According to him, there will be 45 pricing games, and he has a list of them at this website. [/quote]
I question the integrity of the list, for I noticed that "Plinko" is among the games.  Unless they give you a mini-plinko board...[which I doubt], I don't see this happening. [/quote]
Perhaps you spin a wheel instead. Not exactly Plinko as on TV, but a mini-Plinko board seems far-fetched. We'll know soon. By the way, isn't that the guy from the season-opener?

[ClockGameJohn]

Correct you are Don.

Travis Schiaro is the one who pitched this idea to Endless Games for an update and was the first contestant to be called in Season 32.  He won the first pricing game of Season 32, Lucky $even, and snagged a nice Cadillac.

[Matt Ottinger]

By the way, look closely at the collage photograph on the Endless Games home page and you'll see that they still show the Password box with the misspelled "Forth Edition".  (Versions that reached stores were corrected.)

Gotta love misspelling a word on the box of a word game!

[The Ol' Guy]

Amen!
And who can forget the Concentration cover with a numbered slide or two in the wrong positions.....or the What's My Line score wheel that when you line up the information on one side, the information was partially obscured or cut off in the window on the other (at least in my edition)....  I'll be interested in seeing the new PIR. I give them big props for even being in the game show home game arena, but I hope they won't have to change their slogan to....

"We skip quality control and pass the savings on to YOU!"

[Matt Ottinger]

[quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 11:33 AM\'] "We skip quality control and pass the savings on to YOU!" [/quote]
 No offense to my friends over there, but that's pretty much exactly what they DO!  To keep costs low they operate on a shoestring, and honestly, none of the guys over there really know game shows all that well in the first place, certainly not the way we do.

Being small, they are almost preposterously open to suggestions, which is why a lot of us have had dealings with them over the years.  Look in the fine print of your What's My Line instructions, for example, and see who rewrote their rules for them!

[JamesVipond]

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 11:19 AM\'][quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 11:33 AM\'] "We skip quality control and pass the savings on to YOU!" [/quote]
No offense to my friends over there, but that's pretty much exactly what they DO!  To keep costs low they operate on a shoestring, and honestly, none of the guys over there really know game shows all that well in the first place, certainly not the way we do.

Being small, they are almost preposterously open to suggestions, which is why a lot of us have had dealings with them over the years.  Look in the fine print of your What's My Line instructions, for example, and see who rewrote their rules for them![/quote]
Matt, I know you took offense with the first game, which continued to use four-digit car prices. And like a previous poster, I question the integrity of that list of pricing games: Are we really to expect a Plinko board, a pack of playing cards and a set of dice to accompany the other game elements?

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'JamesVipond\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 09:44 AM\'] Are we really to expect a Plinko board, a pack of playing cards and a set of dice to accompany the other game elements? [/quote]
 No way in hell. I think it has "hoax" written all over it.

I gotta rant a second: Some of you know I've been gathering material for the last couple weeks for a Family Feud game I'll be hosting at my weekly game night tonight (using Particleman's exceptional FF software), and the first thing I did was take a trip down to my local thrift store to see if I could find a cheap FF home game to steal questions out of. Well, I found the Endless Games red-box version from I think 1998, listed at $1.98, because all that was inside the box was the question book, no dry-erase board, no play money, no strike board, nothing else. However, the question book was all I really wanted anyhow, so I cheerfully ponied up a couple Washingtons and went on my way.

When I got to pouring through the book, I quickly found out why the previous owner left it behind: apparently the folks at Endless didn't have a freakin' clue about researching game material. Most questions had at LEAST eight answers, all too often the #1 answer would be worth like 70 points, and the rest 5 or less, and in many occasions the total value of the survey would add up to less than 70 points, or more than 100. (Yes. We surveyed 100 people, my ass.)

Fast Money has the same 70 point problem. There are more than a few of the 60 Fast Money games in that book where three #1 answers would be enough to put the first player over the hump before the guy in the isolation booth even got used to the loud headsets.

The nutshell was that I thought I was just gonna be able to go through and pluck questions out for my game, but it turned out I had to scour it for usable questions, and those were only really useful in the Single rounds, I had to consult other sources for the Double and Triple questions. And I was NEVER able to lift a Fast Money round out wholesale.

So forgive me if I'm a little wary of a Super Deluxe TPiR coming out of those people, because they simply aren't the type to pony up a deck of cards for 1 pricing game out of 45 if they can just cut it instead. Hell, they didn't even bother with custom cards for the Card Sharks game, they're some generic brand, and I suspect they're not Bees or Bikes.

I'll be thrilled to be proven wrong, tho.

[Matt Ottinger]

[quote name=\'JamesVipond\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 12:44 PM\'] Matt, I know you took offense with the first game, which continued to use four-digit car prices. And like a previous poster, I question the integrity of that list of pricing games: Are we really to expect a Plinko board, a pack of playing cards and a set of dice to accompany the other game elements? [/quote]
 I'm not familiar with Travis Schiaro, and I don't know specifically what his relationship with Endless Games actually is.  Somebody here referred to him as the "creator" of the new Endless version and I find that very unlikely.  As I said before, they are very open to suggestions. My *guess* is that they took his suggestions along with everyone else's, and he thought he was contributing more to the final product than he really was.  He shows 45 games and Endless says "30+", so that tells you something.

According to his website, he's been creating his own home versions of TPIR, and he's now up to the "Sixth Edition", whatever that means.  I'm sure HIS version has some makeshift Plinko board and lots of other details that are impractical for Endless to duplicate on a large scale.  

As far as Endless goes, dice wouldn't surprise me, nor would a deck of cards.  Beyond that, though, I'm just hoping they come up with a simple spinner for the Showcase Showdown.  I'm not holding out hope for a Plinko board.

(BTW, their ad copy still refers incorrectly to the conclusion of the game as the Showcase Showdown.  As I said, these guys aren't huge fans.)

[PeterMarshallFan]

For what it's worth, I noticed on Travis's site that a deck of cards with different amounts were used for Plinko...

[Matt Ottinger]

Here's the relevant thread at Golden Road.  A lot of people there seem to be giving Travis a lot of credit, based on nothing more than his own posts.  He met with Endless earlier this month, long after they had already announced they had a Second Edition in the works.  You be the judge.

[Casey Buck]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 09:00 AM\']I gotta rant a second: Some of you know I've been gathering material for the last couple weeks for a Family Feud game I'll be hosting at my weekly game night tonight (using Particleman's exceptional FF software), and the first thing I did was take a trip down to my local thrift store to see if I could find a cheap FF home game to steal questions out of. Well, I found the Endless Games red-box version from I think 1998, listed at $1.98, because all that was inside the box was the question book, no dry-erase board, no play money, no strike board, nothing else. However, the question book was all I really wanted anyhow, so I cheerfully ponied up a couple Washingtons and went on my way.

When I got to pouring through the book, I quickly found out why the previous owner left it behind: apparently the folks at Endless didn't have a freakin' clue about researching game material. Most questions had at LEAST eight answers, all too often the #1 answer would be worth like 70 points, and the rest 5 or less, and in many occasions the total value of the survey would add up to less than 70 points, or more than 100. (Yes. We surveyed 100 people, my ass.)

Fast Money has the same 70 point problem. There are more than a few of the 60 Fast Money games in that book where three #1 answers would be enough to put the first player over the hump before the guy in the isolation booth even got used to the loud headsets.

The nutshell was that I thought I was just gonna be able to go through and pluck questions out for my game, but it turned out I had to scour it for usable questions, and those were only really useful in the Single rounds, I had to consult other sources for the Double and Triple questions. And I was NEVER able to lift a Fast Money round out wholesale.[/quote]
How did the game go? Were the contestants impressed with Particleman's Feud board?

Anyways, I found a site that has all the Family Feud questions you could ever need; these were taken directly from the show (could have saved 2 bucks!).

http://www.angelfire.com/on/jhuhn/ffsurveys/

[zachhoran]

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Mar 26 2004, 04:28 PM\']

As far as Endless goes, dice wouldn't surprise me, nor would a deck of cards.  Beyond that, though, I'm just hoping they come up with a simple spinner for the Showcase Showdown.  I'm not holding out hope for a Plinko board.
 [/quote]
 If this game is to be modeled after MB's 1986 game as Endless' first edition was, let's hope they include four of the "pricers" like the MB game did instead of only one like the last Endless game did. And of course, no cars priced under $10K (Well, there is the Kia Rio)