Author Topic: GSN adding Winner Take All and Play Your Hunch (Read 13141 times)

CaseyAbell · « **Reply #15 on:** August 12, 2004, 04:12:21 PM »

In fact, the Prof would occasionally mention Boden by name. He once commented that Boden told him GSN's economics dictated they rerun everything to dust and Russian Roulette didn't stand up well to the abuse. (GSN's woeful ratings for much of 2003 confirm that story all too well.)

So yeah, I think he was one of Mr. Steve's best sources for what went on at the network. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think I'm saying anything awful or even very controversial. If the Prof can develop good sources at GSN, more power to him. Lately, he does seem to have good information from the network.

Gotta smile when folks say that shows from 1990 or 1978 aren't old. By TV standards a 1990 show is Mesozoic and a 1978 show is Pre-Cambrian. Shows from the 1950s antedate the Big Bang. That's why not too many cable or broadcast outlets are bringing back four "new" series from those periods over the next few weeks.

Probably the fairest criticism is that I'm not giving credit to some classics fans who, yes, have made kinder comments about GSN. Here and on the GSN board, some of the network's harshest critics have mellowed a little since the recent programming tweaks.

Personally, I think the horrible return of All New 3's a Crock outweighs any good moves in the August and September rearrangements. So, for a change, I guess I'm being more critical of GSN than some of the network's former naysayers.

Not that I'm rooting for the network to crash and burn. There's still a lot I like on GSN.

sshuffield70 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 12, 2004, 04:39:09 PM »

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Gotta smile when folks say that shows from 1990 or 1978 aren't old. By TV standards a 1990 show is Mesozoic

Try explaining that one to all the "Seinfeld" fans, or all the "Cosby" fans, or any fan of any old sitcom or drama. Hell, we have one channel that programs "Matlock" and "Hawaii 5-0" when there's no baseball, and another has "Simon and Simon", "Cagney and Lacey", and "Quincy M. E." I don't suppose I should tell those stations what you wrote.

tyshaun1 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 12, 2004, 04:52:06 PM »

And, unsurprisingly, the man misses the point. What I'm saying is, at this point, there is no such thing as a "classic" fan over here, despite your self-righteous proclamations. Yes, it's good that GSN has unearthed some shows from their vault, but does that makes me a "classics" fan? Not really.
Plus, just because Beverly talked to Boden publically a few times automatically makes him his mole? Give me a break. I suppose since he's talked to Cronin a few times recently makes him the new mole.

Casey, I beg you, get over yourself.

Tyshaun

CaseyAbell · « **Reply #18 on:** August 12, 2004, 06:23:31 PM »

I beg you, get over me. Anyway, Boden isn't anybody's mole at GSN any more, because (and Woolery left Wheel, too) he's not at GSN any more. Do I think he talked a few times with the Prof while he was there? Why, yes I do. If you think that makes me a tinfoil conspiracy type, that's not my problem.

And there aren't any classics fans? Gee, that's a surprise. Lots of folks call themselves classics fans on the GSN board, and lots of folks over here talk up classic shows whenever they can. Not that there's anything wrong with that (somebody mentioned Seinfeld). Hey, I'm a classics fan. I like MG, Feud, Jeopardy, WoF, Pyramid, lots of classics.

And yes, shows that date back to the 80s, 70s, 60s and 50s are old by TV standards. You're welcome to tell any broadcaster or cable net what I wrote, because they'll agree with me. Almost all of those folks (besides the specialist nostalgia nets) would rather have more recent stuff if it was available and their economics justified it. If they could replace Hawaii 5-0 with CSI, you better believe they'd do it right quick.

Winkfan · « **Reply #19 on:** August 12, 2004, 07:48:11 PM »

BTW, Professor Steve noted that Winner Take All would only be on GSN for one week. And THEN what?

Plus, the news that B&WO would be seen at 3-4am EST/PST indicates that the 'dual feed' would be starting up.

Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'Marcia Wallace of the Big Board!'

CaseyAbell · « **Reply #20 on:** August 12, 2004, 08:18:36 PM »

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BTW, Professor Steve noted that Winner Take All would only be on GSN for one week. And THEN what?

Password comes back? Another show emerges from the deeper reaches of the vault?

Stay tuned. And switch your TiVo settings to 3:00 AM Eastern.

BTW, some nice screen shots of the show, with a ridiculously youthful Bill Cullen and the old GSN logo:

http://gameshowutopia.tripod.com/winnertakeall.htm

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #21 on:** August 12, 2004, 08:33:56 PM »

[quote name=\'CaseyAbell\' date=\'Aug 12 2004, 07:18 PM\']
BTW, some nice screen shots of the show, with a ridiculously youthful Bill Cullen and the old GSN logo:

http://gameshowutopia.tripod.com/winnertakeall.htm

Didn't realize the show had such a short run. [/quote]
Well, the show did run for over two years in CBS primetime with Bud C.(48-50) and with Barry Gray in daytime on CBS for two months in 1951. The NBC version with Bill was a revival of sorts. After the spring 52 run, the show became a segment of the NBC daytime "Matinee in New York" from June to Sept. 52. There was a radio version starting in 1946. Most every game show has used the concepts created by WTA, from continuing champs to lock-out buzzers to having contestants competing against each other.

Dbacksfan12 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 12, 2004, 11:49:00 PM »

[quote name=\'CaseyAbell\' date=\'Aug 12 2004, 05:23 PM\'] And there aren't any classics fans? Gee, that's a surprise. Lots of folks call themselves classics fans on the GSN board, and lots of folks over here talk up classic shows whenever they can. [/quote]
There isn't. This isn't the GSN board--where 11 year old twits get to post: "i think that gsn sucks because they took of press your luck and replpaced it with cwam". This is a board with intellegent users-95% of whom know what they're doing. Read up for more comments about the lack of a split fan base here.

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Password comes back? Another show emerges from the deeper reaches of the vault?

You don't know that. Your sarcasm isn't welcome either.

CaseyAbell · « **Reply #23 on:** August 13, 2004, 09:06:09 AM »

You're right about the length of Winner Take All's run. That's why I edited out the comment about the short run. While the show didn't last a real long time on TV, it had a respectable run on CBS and NBC.

As for the other poster's comments about the GSN board and sarcasm...sure, some stuff on the GSN board is pretty, well, elementary. But there's a lot of detailed and intelligent commentary, too.

The "sarcasm" comment...sorry, I don't get it. Winner Take All comes from pretty deep in the vault. Could other rarities surface on BW&O? You're right, I don't know. But I wasn't trying to be sarcastic, and I'm sorry if the comment seemed that way.

RMF · « **Reply #24 on:** August 15, 2004, 09:09:29 PM »

[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Aug 11 2004, 11:52 AM\'] I wonder if they have any more of the Barry Gray eps. The one I saw was very Letterman-esque. [/quote]
The UCLA Archive has two: the 04/12/1951 episode, and the 04/17/1951 episode.

There are also three Cullen episodes: 02/27/1952, 02/28/1952, and 03/05/1952.

If the report is true, this would probably be the week of episodes.

(BTW, there are also ten episodes of "Play Your Hunch", ranging from 06/06/1958 to 04/27/1962 in airdate.)

Winkfan · « **Reply #25 on:** August 16, 2004, 04:58:33 PM »

Quote from: RMF on August 15, 2004, 09:09:29 PM

(BTW, there are also ten episodes of "Play Your Hunch", ranging from 06/06/1958 to 04/27/1962 in airdate.)

Wanna bet they're gonna be repeated to death, even if it IS only on the weekends?

Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'JoAnn Pflug of the Big Board!'

ilb4ever2000 · « **Reply #26 on:** August 16, 2004, 05:13:40 PM »

[quote name=\'Winkfan\' date=\'Aug 16 2004, 03:58 PM\'] Wanna bet they're gonna be repeated to death, even if it IS only on the weekends? [/quote]
Be thankful they're showing them at all...

MikeK · « **Reply #27 on:** August 16, 2004, 06:30:02 PM »

[quote name=\'ilb4ever2000\' date=\'Aug 16 2004, 05:13 PM\'] [quote name=\'Winkfan\' date=\'Aug 16 2004, 03:58 PM\'] Wanna bet they're gonna be repeated to death, even if it IS only on the weekends? [/quote]
Be thankful they're showing them at all... [/quote]
And be glad you have GSN, period.

From a now-former GSN viewer...

RMF · « **Reply #28 on:** August 16, 2004, 06:53:32 PM »

[quote name=\'Winkfan\' date=\'Aug 16 2004, 03:58 PM\'] [quote name=\'RMF\' date=\'Aug 15 2004, 06:09 PM\'] (BTW, there are also ten episodes of "Play Your Hunch", ranging from 06/06/1958 to 04/27/1962 in airdate.) [/quote]
Wanna bet they're gonna be repeated to death, even if it IS only on the weekends?

Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'JoAnn Pflug of the Big Board!' [/quote]
Just because it isn't at UCLA doesn't mean that GSN doesn't have it. After all, there are only 31 Beat The Clocks, 14 Two For The Moneys, and 23 Cullen Price Is Rights at UCLA.

gamed121683 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 16, 2004, 07:02:47 PM »

I gotta ask...anyone here know the exact number (or a good ballpark figure) about how many episodes of "PYH" & "WTA" are in the GSN vault?