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TLEberle

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« on: September 06, 2004, 02:52:41 AM »
After reading Joe Van Ginkel's account of the GSC, and the trip to TPIR Live, I'm curious as to what changes are made for the program (for example, "It's in the Bag" being played for $2,400, car games for trips, and the like.)

How are games picked?  It would be hard to do a road show and have some of the props out of the warehouse while the regular show is chugging away at 33.  And I'm betting that the budget won't allow for Plinko to be played for $50,000.

If anyone else has seen it, what are some examples of games/payoffs?  Outside of the showcase, what can a player who gets on stage expect to play for?

I realize that the questions are kinda out there, but that's because I haven't gotten a chance to see the show, and I don't have any frame of reference.  Those out there who can help out, I appreciate it.  Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2004, 05:49:07 AM »
Having seen the show twice myself, the following were played for to the best of my memory......


Race Game -  a PS2, a guitar, a Oreck sweeper,  a set of golf clubs.  
It's in the Bag - As you mentioned 2400 in cash
Hole in One- a 3 day trip to the Rio in Vegas
Cliffhangers- a side by side fridge  
Showcase- In both instances, Mini Coopers, dinner in the casiono resturant, trip to Lake Tahoe, and a mid-range appliance like a washer/dryer.  
 
Im sure there are many other different prizes, and from what I've heard they do have Plinko at the San Diego TPIR live, where as they dont in AC.

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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2004, 08:03:22 AM »
[quote name=\'Rastaub\' date=\'Sep 6 2004, 04:49 AM\'] Having seen the show twice myself, the following were played for to the best of my memory......


Race Game -  a PS2, a guitar, a Oreck sweeper,  a set of golf clubs.  
It's in the Bag - As you mentioned 2400 in cash
Hole in One- a 3 day trip to the Rio in Vegas
Cliffhangers- a side by side fridge  
Showcase- In both instances, Mini Coopers, dinner in the casiono resturant, trip to Lake Tahoe, and a mid-range appliance like a washer/dryer.  
 
Im sure there are many other different prizes, and from what I've heard they do have Plinko at the San Diego TPIR live, where as they dont in AC. [/quote]
 In AC on 8/16: The IUFBs were all around $200, with a $100 in Casino chips bonus for an exact bid.

The SCSD winner got $250, with $100 for getting $1.00, $500 for a green section in the bonus spin, and $1000 for the $1.00.

There was no bonus announced for getting all the products correct in Hole in One, and no word on if the small prizes are won in Cliff Hangers.

I remember either a Color TV or a PLaystation on the turntable in the Showcase as well. The winner won the trip to Tahoe, but would win the entire showcase if $100 or less away from the $20,700(on 8/16) ARP without going over.

Whether it will be same(besides a certain member of our board announcing) on 9/20 remains to be seen.

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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2004, 01:40:37 PM »
As far as I know, the same four games are played every night -- Race Game, Cliff Hangers, Hole in One, and Plinko or It's in the Bag (which one you get depends on the city you're in).

And not to toot my own horn or anything...but if it's information you want, Golden-Road's FAQ has what I like to think is a pretty good section on this show.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2004, 01:46:20 PM by Steve Gavazzi »

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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2004, 03:13:18 PM »
Atlantic City apparently does have Plinko.

Sort of..

http://www.harrahs.com/our_casinos/sac/pro..._detail_01.html
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2004, 03:42:53 PM »
I was down there 8/29/04  and while eating, I heard them calling out peoples names and saying " (insert generic name)" Come on Down...

There was somewhat of a large crowd gathered as well, but I didnt even think of asking what the crowd was gathered for.

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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2004, 07:58:39 PM »
Addressing some of the questions...

The four games at each location are played every night. Rotating games would be an unnecessary expense. You cannot BEGIN to imagine what it cost to custom build and transport precise replicas of the TPiR set pieces complete with all the industrial-strength electronics. All of the games such as the full scale "Cliffhangers" and those traveling Big Wheels are entirely hand crafted and full of electronics gear.

Never mind the moving parts and the extensive artwork necessary to replicate the props' appearance, just think about one tiny detail such as the hours of wiring needed for the dozens of simple light bulb sockets all over the big wheel set piece. Skilled union labor is not cheap.

Speaking of wiring, there's well over a mile of copper connecting each of the hundreds of individual keypads to the computers, the cameras and graphics equipment to the switcher and then to the big screens, and all the control and audio circuits for each game. Just like in studio 33, things such as the mountain climber's movement and "Race Game" neon readout are controlled from remote locations. Think about it... even "It's In The Bag" and PLiNKO involve lights controlled from the back of the theater. The big wheel's "beeps" are generated by the same optical sensor system used at CBS, which is mounted on the wheel itself, with the audio fed to the back of the house where the audio mix is controlled. The music cues and sound effects are all digitally stored and played using state-of-the-art equipment. With lighting and other staging, all told, there is approximatrely $1.4 million in hardware at each show.

Bente Christensen, the queen of arts from studio 33, flies in to a new location for several days to direct a crew of local talent in making certain that the appearance of every detail is correct. The show is staffed by folks who have TV game experience, headed by people with names you've read on Goodson credits for decades: Andy Felsher and Cathy Dawson. It's a real kick working with these pros who produce the nightly show with the sensibilities and efficiency of live television.


The games at each location are selected with several criteria in mind. They include the game's general popularity, and whether it is a game of skill or a game of chance. State and local gaming laws differ at the various casinos governing whether games of pure chance can be played in the showroom, thus the exclusion of PLiNKO at some locations.

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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2004, 08:41:32 PM »
How many people does it take to pull this off every day? It's about time that the crew behind the scenes deserve some props.

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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2004, 10:45:23 PM »
[quote name=\'opimus\' date=\'Sep 6 2004, 04:41 PM\'] How many people does it take to pull this off every day? It's about time that the crew behind the scenes deserve some props. [/quote]
An unexpected question on a board better known for discussing obscure music cues, Bill Cullen's eyeglass frames, and trying to discern Bert Convy's cologne.   ;-)

In addition to Executive Producer Mr. Felsher and Senior Producer Ms. Dawson there is usually one other producer simultaneously out at one of the locations. Each of the two shows also has production personnel from LA - folks with experience running the gamut from the classic Mark Goodson shows to the new reality shows - about 5 or 6 - doing the daily work: everything from scheduling and getting prizes, printing price tags and graphics, directing the music, lighting and sound effects crew members, operating the keypad software and doing the video switching that feeds the big screen monitors. The show relies heavily on custom software, and props go to Matt and Scott who tame the PC beast.

The models are hired locally, as are another couple of young ladies who handle details such as dressing the prop prizes and grocery products for appearance.

There's a full stage crew of about 10 to 12 people hired at each location. The era of the cigar smoking Teamster is over. These are 20-something guys and girls who usually work the concerts that roll through town. They love Red Bull and vodka, Harleys, tattoos, and will sit on top of the frame of the TPiR big doors during rehearsals to get a better view of the models. They love the business, and share stories of climbing the tall rigging at outdoor concerts without a safety belt, or mixing audio for some hot rock act I've never heard of. They're damned inventive when it comes to a last minute repair for the big wheel's pointer or chase lighting, and take pride in being able to strike "Race Game" and set "Hole In One" faster than the crew in the previous city. They learn the cues quickly, create some great lighting effects, and are perfectionists when it comes to revealing the car at the precise second that maximizes the drama, or getting a camera shot of the players as they are called to "Come On Down" from the audience. They're real pros who respect a well staged show, and are a great audience for the fooling around we do in rehearsals. "TPiR-Live" has been blessed with great crews in each city.

The venue provides an engineering team to handle the show's engineering needs. They visit the show at previous venues to assess our needs and make showroom and backstage modifications at the next location. Harrah's also assigns a promotion team to do everything from signs in the casino and on the marquee to blanketing the local market's TV, radio and newspapers. Harrah's also provides a bevy of local folks who do everything from registering each guest via PC (names, seat numbers and assigned keypads must match so I can call the right names to "come on down"), to dry-cleaning for the talent, to setting snacks for the crew, to selling TPiR merchandise (even more logo items than I remember seeing at TV City), to working with the 40 or so winners from each show in fulfilling the prizes or issuing the cash vouchers so the casino cashier can hand out the cash winnings.

That's just some of the stuff I see. When it works well, the guests have no idea that there is an army at work to make TPiR-Live the funniest and fastest 80 minutes.   ;-)


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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2004, 06:46:31 AM »
Why exactly are cameras used?

The only purpose I can see would be for host searching purposes (ie: sending tapes to Barker and the like to see who's good) as I can't see these shows being released on DVD.
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2004, 12:06:43 PM »
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Sep 7 2004, 02:46 AM\'] Why exactly are cameras used? [/quote]
 The Atlantic City theater seats 850. The showrooms are far too big to see anything but the big wheel without visual reinforcement. [What grocery items? What golf ball, and where's the hole?] Plus the show is enhanced by a ton of graphics, powerpoint and animation for everything from the qualifier questions to prize reveals.

You are right that there is no intent to sell DVDs of the show, but each and every performance at each location is saved on DVD for review.


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