I've Got A Secret

[The Pyramids]

I saw that 'I've Got a Secret' reruns are on the Oxygen network.

Was this another misbegotten Pearson production? If so the others ('Feud', 'Card Sharks') still get commented on, either pro or con, but not this.

Was this in a class by itself in terms of low quality?

[Steve Gavazzi]

Well, I can tell you this much -- the show ran on Oxygen to begin with, so that probably explains why not a lot of people have seen it.  (I sure as heck haven't.)

[Jimmy Owen]

I thought it was Carsey-Werner (Cosby YBYL) that mounted that version.

[Kevin Prather]

I watch this every morning. It's fairly decent. Stephanie Miller does a good job as host. The panel is usually Amy Yasbeck, Jason Kravitz, Teri Garr and Jim J. Bullock. The show's Oxygen gimmick is that the set is supposed to resemble Stephanie Miller's high-rise apartment, and the contestants are "guests coming over."

The one thing I can't stand is the announcer. No enthusiasm at all.

Other than that, it's a good show.

[brianhenke]

[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Nov 16 2004, 08:32 PM\']I watch this every morning. It's fairly decent. Stephanie Miller does a good job as host. The panel is usually Amy Yasbeck, Jason Kravitz, Teri Garr and Jim J. Bullock. The show's Oxygen gimmick is that the set is supposed to resemble Stephanie Miller's high-rise apartment, and the contestants are "guests coming over."

The one thing I can't stand is the announcer. No enthusiasm at all.

Other than that, it's a good show.

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   Also, sometimes Amy's late husband, John Ritter, appears.

   Speaking of game show reruns on cable, History Channel still airs History IQ Saturday at 6:30 a.m. It's been on there since HC abruptly pulled it after the $250,000 tournament three years ago.

    Brian

    The Jehovah's Witnesses distribute Mad magazine?

[DrBear]

When Geraldine whatshername founded Oxygen, she was looking for various kinds of programming, and apparently found that she could get the rights to IGAS, don't ask me how. What surprises me is that there's no credit at all for Goodson, much less Todman, as the show's creators (or anybody else, for that matter). You'd think at least Allen Sherman's family would have filed a lawsuit.

That said,  O2IGAS isn't all bad if only as an interesting look at how a panel show might be updated for more modern viewing. I remember when it first came on somebody asked how you could have a panel show without a panel at a desk.) The panel itself is pretty forgettable and there aren't enough of the crazy stunts that were a highlight of the Moore version, but I like Stephanie Miller (liked her old talk show, too). I think they did a better job with this than Fremangle did with, say, Card Guppies.

[cmjb13]

[quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'Nov 17 2004, 12:41 AM\']When Geraldine whatshername founded Oxygen, she was looking for various kinds of programming, and apparently found that she could get the rights to IGAS, don't ask me how. What surprises me is that there's no credit at all for Goodson, much less Todman, as the show's creators (or anybody else, for that matter). You'd think at least Allen Sherman's family would have filed a lawsuit.

That said,  O2IGAS isn't all bad if only as an interesting look at how a panel show might be updated for more modern viewing. I remember when it first came on somebody asked how you could have a panel show without a panel at a desk.) The panel itself is pretty forgettable and there aren't enough of the crazy stunts that were a highlight of the Moore version, but I like Stephanie Miller (liked her old talk show, too). I think they did a better job with this than Fremangle did with, say, Card Guppies.

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A little googling finds this thread about ownership

http://tinyurl.com/4m237

[zachhoran]

[quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'Nov 17 2004, 12:41 AM\']When Geraldine whatshername founded Oxygen, she was looking for various kinds of programming, and apparently found that she could get the rights to IGAS, don't ask me how. What surprises me is that there's no credit at all for Goodson, much less Todman, as the show's creators (or anybody else, for that matter). You'd think at least Allen Sherman's family would have filed a lawsuit.

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Carsey-Werner landed the rights to this show circa early 90s. C-W would have possibly done an hour block with IGAS and Cosby YBYL in syndication if the latter had been successful, which it really wasn't.

[Neumms]

Carsey-Werner was in on the founding of Oxygen, with Oprah Winfrey, the talk-show hostess, and apparently this Geraldine whats-her-name. So that's how she found out.

[GS Warehouse]

[quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'Nov 17 2004, 12:41 AM\'].. Geraldine whatshername ...

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[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Nov 17 2004, 11:42 AM\']... Geraldine whats-her-name. ...

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This whats-her-name is Geraldine Laybourne, who also co-founded Nickelodeon in 1979.

ObGS: She co-EP'd the first couple of episodes of Nick's Double Dare in 1986 before leaving the showrunning duties to Geoffrey Darby.

[Matt Ottinger]

The Oxygen remake of IGAS did many things right.  The casual setting was a nice touch, the secrets were as solidly interesting and entertaining as they were in the Garry Moore heyday, and Miller, though an acquired taste for some, did an OK job as host.  The problem, as I've said before, was the panel and the prize structure.  

With the exception of Yasbeck, NOBODY knew how to play, and that goomba Bullock obviously didn't even care.  If the playing of the game isn't interesting -- and how could it be when nobody knew how? -- then don't play the game and just have a talk show with these interesting guests.  

Also, paying the guests significant amounts of money for the failure of the panel never made any sense.  You should root for the game -- any game -- to be played WELL, not for the game to be played badly.  The old games got around that by playing for modest stakes (and usually paying the maximum anyway), and the seventies versions dropped a prize structure altogether.

[Tim L]

[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Nov 16 2004, 09:00 PM\']I saw that 'I've Got a Secret' reruns are on the Oxygen network.

Was this another misbegotten Pearson production? If so the others ('Feud', 'Card Sharks') still get commented on, either pro or con, but not this.

Was this in a class by itself in terms of low quality?

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Paul D

The Show I thought was pretty well done in terms of what they COULD have done with it..I posted a review of the show here in the Forums on  January 1, 2004, .As that is  when I first got to see it (December 2003).  Be On the lookout for a special episode..with guests Betsy Palmer and Steve Allen..Very nice touch to have them as guests.

Tim Lones

[Neumms]

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Nov 17 2004, 02:56 PM\']Also, paying the guests significant amounts of money for the failure of the panel never made any sense.  You should root for the game -- any game -- to be played WELL, not for the game to be played badly.  The old games got around that by playing for modest stakes (and usually paying the maximum anyway), and the seventies versions dropped a prize structure altogether.

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On "What's My Line?" though, don't you root for the contestant to stump the panel? Same way on "TTTT." That the game will be played well ought to be a given, at least if the game is to work. (Except on "It Pays to Be Ignorant.")

[JMFabiano]

Thanks for pointing out the CBS ownership issue.  I was about to say how funny it was that the best Fremantle-related revivals are the ones where they merely give the rights to someone else (guess which Spanish language version of Family Feud I could be referring to here, to go along with this IGAS? ;-)), as opposed to, as Dr. Bear said, them producing something like CaSINO.  So thanks for clarifying.


[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Nov 17 2004, 07:38 AM\'][quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'Nov 17 2004, 12:41 AM\']When Geraldine whatshername founded Oxygen, she was looking for various kinds of programming, and apparently found that she could get the rights to IGAS, don't ask me how. What surprises me is that there's no credit at all for Goodson, much less Todman, as the show's creators (or anybody else, for that matter). You'd think at least Allen Sherman's family would have filed a lawsuit.

That said,  O2IGAS isn't all bad if only as an interesting look at how a panel show might be updated for more modern viewing. I remember when it first came on somebody asked how you could have a panel show without a panel at a desk.) The panel itself is pretty forgettable and there aren't enough of the crazy stunts that were a highlight of the Moore version, but I like Stephanie Miller (liked her old talk show, too). I think they did a better job with this than Fremangle did with, say, Card Guppies.

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A little googling finds this thread about ownership

http://tinyurl.com/4m237

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[uncamark]

[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Nov 17 2004, 02:05 PM\'][quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'Nov 17 2004, 12:41 AM\'].. Geraldine whatshername ...

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This whats-her-name is Geraldine Laybourne, who also co-founded Nickelodeon in 1979.

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I don't know if she co-founded the channel, but she was the force behind the remake of Nick in 1984 from an "eat your vegetables" kids channel to "What You Want--Not What Your Parents Want," which has been their guiding force since then (although they've toned down the parent-bashing in promos since their earlier days), anointing that silly Canadian comedy show "You Can't Do That on Television" as their signature series.

BTW, although some of us assume that Carsey-Werner produced the Oxygen "IGAS," there's no production company credit and the copyright notice is simply "Oxygen Media LLC."  Whatever.

BTW, Laybourne's programming chief at Oxygen is Debby Beece, who while in the same position at Nick in 1986 greenlit "Double Dare."  Unfortunately, no game format, be it traditional or reality, has shown up on Oh! since "IGAS" ended production.