Author Topic: If CBS took back the 10-11am time slot.... (Read 7380 times)

aaron sica · « **Reply #15 on:** February 23, 2005, 12:51:58 AM »

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Actually, I believe those were the only two to do so--not exactly many. In addition, they were owned by Proctor & Gamble and not by the networks on which they were telecast.

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In what would have gotten to be a VERY interesting situation had it actually happened, I believe back in '98, an impasse with DOOL and NBC almost had the show moving to ABC. If that had happened, it would have made for a very interesting situation as far as ABC's 1pm-4pm lineup (unchanged since January '78) was concerned.

wschmrdr · « **Reply #16 on:** February 23, 2005, 11:17:15 AM »

If CBS took back 10AM........

I remember when they used it to do Family Feud Challenge; used to watch it all the time. Obviously since FF is syndicated, that's out of the question.

There are two games rumored about for a while to think of for a revival: What's My Line, and Password. How bout those two shows?

I probably wouldn't watch right away, since my area airs Millionaire and Family Feud at the 10AM slot. Then of course flip to the CBS station for the 11AM Legend.

aaron sica · « **Reply #17 on:** February 23, 2005, 12:37:45 PM »

I remember when TPiR actually *did* run from 10:30am-11:30am with "Love of Life" airing at 11:30am. I remember when they moved it to 11am-noon, and how weird it seemed that it was on at 11. Never did I guess in a million years that over 25 years later, it would *still* be airing at 11am.

Ian Wallis · « **Reply #18 on:** February 23, 2005, 03:33:16 PM »

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I remember when they moved it to 11am-noon, and how weird it seemed that it was on at 11. Never did I guess in a million years that over 25 years later, it would *still* be airing at 11am.

I can remember when "Price" was on at 3! When it first debuted, it was on at 10:30 a.m. and moved to 3 p.m. in March 1973. It was two and a half years later before it moved back to mornings.

It's been stated that the CBS morning ratings started to drop with the June 1975 changes, that saw "Spin Off" debut, and "Tattletales" move to 11 a.m. They moved "Price" back to mornings in August 1975 to try to bolster the morning ratings.

I'm wondering: were "Price's" ratings as good at 3 p.m. as they were in the mornings? I know that "Match Game" (which followed it) was kicking ass, and I'm not suggesting "Price" was faltering, but it certainly was a significant time change for a show that was doing very well. Maybe CBS figured it was a strong enough show that the audience would follow it wherever it landed. Too bad we don't have access to ratings for more than the top three shows from that time frame.

aaron sica · « **Reply #19 on:** February 23, 2005, 06:06:11 PM »

[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 03:33 PM\']and I'm not suggesting "Price" was faltering, but it certainly was a significant time change for a show that was doing very well. Maybe CBS figured it was a strong enough show that the audience would follow it wherever it landed. Too bad we don't have access to ratings for more than the top three shows from that time frame.

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I'm guessing they moved the show back to the mornings in preparation for its expansion to 60 minutes - since MG was pretty hot by '75, they didn't want to touch the 3:30pm timeslot (since expanding TPiR at 3 would have meant running 3pm-4pm).

ChuckNet · « **Reply #20 on:** February 23, 2005, 06:34:35 PM »

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I remember when TPiR actually *did* run from 10:30am-11:30am with "Love of Life" airing at 11:30am. I remember when they moved it to 11am-noon, and how weird it seemed that it was on at 11. Never did I guess in a million years that over 25 years later, it would *still* be airing at 11am.

Interestingly, CBS moved TPiR all over the morning at first, following the hr. expansion...it first aired at 10 AM (Johnny O. would plug Gambit, then replacement Double Dare at the end), then moved to 10:30 (w/the aforementioned LoL plug at the end) in 1977, then back to 10, then back to 10:30, and finally settled into its current 11 AM slot in Mar. 1979.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")

Kent Broyhill · « **Reply #21 on:** February 23, 2005, 08:04:58 PM »

[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 06:34 PM\']

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I remember when TPiR actually *did* run from 10:30am-11:30am with "Love of Life" airing at 11:30am. I remember when they moved it to 11am-noon, and how weird it seemed that it was on at 11. Never did I guess in a million years that over 25 years later, it would *still* be airing at 11am.

Interestingly, CBS moved TPiR all over the morning at first, following the hr. expansion...it first aired at 10 AM (Johnny O. would plug Gambit, then replacement Double Dare at the end), then moved to 10:30 (w/the aforementioned LoL plug at the end) in 1977, then back to 10, then back to 10:30, and finally settled into its current 11 AM slot in Mar. 1979.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")

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Actually, TPiR moved to its 11am time slot on April 23, 1979, not March, when MG '79 was cancelled. Whew! moved into the 10:30pm time slot, and Love of Life moved to 4pm, where it limped around in the ratings until February 1980, when it was cancelled.

Craig Karlberg · « **Reply #22 on:** February 24, 2005, 05:17:17 AM »

It sure makes sense to put TPIR in the mornings as it was in the mid 70's with its expansion. I thought at the half-hour format, it was, IMO, a good lead-in to MG'73 back then in March 1973. It took CBS 2 1/2 years to realize the ratings for the 3 PM slot weren't quite what they wanted, so thus the move to mornings ever since 1975.

BrandonFG · « **Reply #23 on:** February 24, 2005, 10:12:16 AM »

[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' date=\'Feb 24 2005, 05:17 AM\']It took CBS 2 1/2 years to realize the ratings for the 3 PM slot weren't quite what they wanted, so thus the move to mornings ever since 1975.

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OK, so you have word from CBS that they moved TPiR because of ratings? Even if that is true, you seem pretty confident about that, as if you personally spoke to Barker or someone. At least Ian simply questioned the possibility of ratings.

zachhoran · « **Reply #24 on:** February 24, 2005, 10:20:29 AM »

[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' date=\'Feb 24 2005, 05:17 AM\']It sure makes sense to put TPIR in the mornings as it was in the mid 70's with its expansion. I thought at the half-hour format, it was, IMO, a good lead-in to MG'73 back then in March 1973. It took CBS 2 1/2 years to realize the ratings for the 3 PM slot weren't quite what they wanted, so thus the move to mornings ever since 1975.

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I suspect they didn't want to tamper with MG and Tattletales in the afternoons. TPiR expanding to an hour would have affected one of them if it was kept at 3PM EST.

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #25 on:** February 24, 2005, 10:38:05 AM »

I have seven Daytime TV mags from 1975 with Nielsens in them and in those, TPIR was No. 2 to MG. Numbers were generally in the 9s.

Ian Wallis · « **Reply #26 on:** February 24, 2005, 11:11:58 AM »

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I have seven Daytime TV mags from 1975 with Nielsens in them and in those, TPIR was No. 2 to MG. Numbers were generally in the 9s.

Were those before, of after the switch back to mornings? The EOTVGS lists "Price is Right" as No. 2 for the period between October 1974 and April 1975 - it's only appearance in the top three in the half-hour format. By October '75 it had fallen out of the top three, and didn't return until 1978. I'm guessing once it moved back to mornings it must have taken a while to gain back the audience that it had. Even if it had fallen in the ratings during the year, it might not have fallen that much depending on how far out of the top three it dropped.

Are daytime ratings from those times available online anywhere?

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #27 on:** February 24, 2005, 11:30:04 AM »

Before the switch. I did find an issue dated March 1976 which had the results of the week of 11/23/75. That week "Tattletales" was No. 1 with an 8.7/28 and MG had an 8.2/30. "Rhyme and Reason" was third with a 7.2/30, "Pyramid" had a 6.7/26 and HS was fifth with a 6/0/29. They only listed the top 5. The next issue I have had the results of the week of 5/30/76. MG was first with a 9.1/30, TPIR had a 6.1/37, Pyramid a 6.0/23, BTB 5.8/24 and Tattletales 5.7/19. It should be noted that there were seven soaps in between MG and TPIR, so MG was the No. 1 daytime show that week and TPIR ninth overall.

Jamey Greek · « **Reply #28 on:** February 25, 2005, 10:39:24 PM »

[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Feb 22 2005, 01:28 PM\']However, the 10 AM slot on some CBS stations (New York, Philly, Detroit, Boston and Miami) is already filled with a CBS show -- Guiding Light, turning over the 3 PM slot to syndicated shows. For some of those stations, that show is Dr. Phil. I don't think you're going to convince Viacom to move Guiding Light back to 3 and move Dr. Phil to a late night slot so you can clear an hour of Dragon! -- The All New Tic-Tac-Dough starring Brian Dunkelman.

Your larger hope is the 9 AM slot, where most of the CBS O&Os (except Chicago, Salt Lake and Green Bay) air Larry Elder. CBS/Viacom/King World does not own the show (it's Warner Bros.), so if you can convince them to dump that for an hour you may get to see The New New Battlestars hosted by Graham Elwood and 21st Century Tattletales (taped in Massachusetts) hosted by Richard Simmons.

Hey! WKMG CBS 6 did carry Guiding Light at 10 AM! Wonder if they still do?

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clemon79 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 26, 2005, 06:10:02 AM »

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Author Topic: If CBS took back the 10-11am time slot.... (Read 7380 times)

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