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TunaHead

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« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2005, 12:32:54 PM »
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 11:58 AM\']Barker Dollar, not buck
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Oh dear lord.. Can we say Anal?
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« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2005, 01:22:56 PM »
[quote name=\'GPeefalt\' date=\'Mar 20 2005, 11:36 PM\']Which is why the prize for 1/2 Off is 3 times the sum of the prizes in DP or 1RP.
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Seems to me that "Double Prices" is being played nowadays for better prizes than that.  I think that statement would've been truer 10 years ago, but I'm sure I've recently seen prizes in the $7,000-$8,000 range being played for in DP.

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chris319

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« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2005, 04:26:49 PM »
Grand Game is played for the same prize as Half Off and the odds are much better.
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« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2005, 04:57:39 PM »
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 04:26 PM\']Grand Game is played for the same prize as Half Off and the odds are much better.
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Grand Game perfect pricing including the $1000 prize: 3 selections left, 1 of which being correct = 33% chance of winning

Half Off with perfect pricing = 2 boxes left, 1 containing the 10K = 50% chance of winning

How are the Grand Game odds better?
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« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2005, 05:09:35 PM »
How are the Grand Game odds better?
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I think the point  Chris is trying to illustrate is that with Half Off, you can price the items perfect and still manage to lose, where as w/ Grand Game, if you lose it's because you priced the grocery item wrong and thus lost the game yourself or decide to stop at 1K.

This in itself proves why Half Off doesnt work (at least IMO) You price perfectly and then have a chance at winning zip.
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« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2005, 06:39:41 PM »
[quote name=\'Rastaub\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 05:09 PM\']This in itself proves why Half Off doesnt work (at least IMO) You price perfectly and then have a chance at winning zip.
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TunaHead

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« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2005, 07:23:35 PM »
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This in itself proves why Half Off doesnt work (at least IMO) You price perfectly and then have a chance at winning zip.
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So you'd like to remake Bonus Game and Shell Game, just this time with the Pastel Pukefest, and just give away $10,000? That's all it is, under your rules, is Bonus/Shell cloaked in pastel puke. Now what fun is that? Bad enough we already have 1RP and DP running around the set together. Or at one time, we had Squeeze Play and Gallery Game together.
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ChuckNet

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« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2005, 07:50:01 PM »
Mystery Price...while trying to explain the rules over the phone, all I got from the party on the other end was a befuddled "huh?", unless it was just my explanation...LOL

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SamJ93

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« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2005, 07:56:49 PM »
I don't think that 1/2 Off should be made a guaranteed win if you price everything correctly, but maybe there should be another, much smaller cash prize in the other box as some sort of consolation...say...$500?

It's something, and wuldn't it be a funi (sorry, couldn't resist) to have the contestant lift the lid and just see 5 $100 bills fly out of the box?

--Sam
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chris319

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« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2005, 10:39:16 PM »
Grand Game:

100% chance of winning $1

4/6 chance of winning $10

3/5 chance of winning $100

2/4 chance of winning $1000

1/3 chance of winning $10,000

Contestant has pricing information so game is not pure chance.

Half Off:

15/16 chance of winning nothing

7/8 chance of winning nothing

3/4 chance of winning nothing

1/2 chance of winning nothing

Choice of boxes is pure chance.
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TonicBH

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« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2005, 01:56:12 AM »
[quote name=\'SamJ93\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 07:56 PM\']I don't think that 1/2 Off should be made a guaranteed win if you price everything correctly, but maybe there should be another, much smaller cash prize in the other box as some sort of consolation...say...$500?

It's something, and it wuldn't it be a funi (sorry, couldn't resist) to have the contestant lift the lid and just see 5 $100 bills fly out of the box?

--Sam
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It's funny, but I think this would be a nice twist to see a few boxes with like consolations of $100 or $500 or maybe just one dollar.

But then you have the problem of the game being having aspects too similar to Punch-a-Bunch.
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zachhoran

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« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2005, 08:30:00 AM »
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Mar 21 2005, 10:39 PM\']

Half Off:

15/16 chance of winning nothing

7/8 chance of winning nothing

3/4 chance of winning nothing

1/2 chance of winning nothing

Choice of boxes is pure chance.
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Only the first scenario would have the player win nothing if they didn't find the box with the $10K. The other three scenarios imply that two, four, or six small prizes are won, respectively(both small prizes are won when they pick the Half Off price correct, no?). SMall prizes are not nothing, even if it's a Kids II Crib Light and a Crocodile Dentist game :)
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« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2005, 08:44:05 AM »
Don't forget that the boxes in 1/2 Off aren't randomly eliminated; the order of the boxes to be removed are programmed into the computer controlling the game before the show.

It might be too confusing to have consolation prizes in the boxes.  Think of this scenario:  the contestant opens the box and money falls out.  He/she gets all excited but doesn't realize that its only $500 instead of $10,000.  It just seems more complex than it needs to be.
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zachhoran

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« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2005, 08:57:07 AM »
[quote name=\'jmangin\' date=\'Mar 22 2005, 08:44 AM\']

It might be too confusing to have consolation prizes in the boxes.  Think of this scenario:  the contestant opens the box and money falls out.  He/she gets all excited but doesn't realize that its only $500 instead of $10,000.  It just seems more complex than it needs to be.
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Make it like Shower Game and put confetti in some of the other boxes, and Dolphins and Friends in others.
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TunaHead

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« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2005, 09:06:36 AM »
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Mar 22 2005, 08:57 AM\'][quote name=\'jmangin\' date=\'Mar 22 2005, 08:44 AM\']

It might be too confusing to have consolation prizes in the boxes.  Think of this scenario:  the contestant opens the box and money falls out.  He/she gets all excited but doesn't realize that its only $500 instead of $10,000.  It just seems more complex than it needs to be.
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Make it like Shower Game and put confetti in some of the other boxes, and Dolphins and Friends in others.
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Well, that sounds like a winner right there, lemme tell ya..
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