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tvwxman

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« on: June 05, 2005, 08:14:50 AM »
It's been critisized here often that the current format of Wheel isn't good. Too many colors, too many pointless graphics, not enough nudity, etc.....

It's my opinion (and maybe it's swayed since I have met a few of the principal figures behind the production) that it works well...lots of puzzles, fast (enough) moving, and big (enough) prizes.... But it appears that i'm in the minority.

So my question (and admittedly, I'm sure I'm opening up a Pandora's Box here)...

How would you fix it?
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aaron sica

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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2005, 08:31:01 AM »
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Jun 5 2005, 08:14 AM\']It's been critisized here often that the current format of Wheel isn't good. Too many colors, too many pointless graphics, not enough nudity, etc.....

It's my opinion (and maybe it's swayed since I have met a few of the principal figures behind the production) that it works well...lots of puzzles, fast (enough) moving, and big (enough) prizes.... But it appears that i'm in the minority.

So my question (and admittedly, I'm sure I'm opening up a Pandora's Box here)...

How would you fix it?
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Get rid of the "toss-in" puzzles at the beginning...The "no more vowels" pop-up.....The "final spin" graphic...And as for that puzzleboard: Either make it manual again so Vanna actually has something to DO, or if you're going to keep it the way it is, dump Vanna. IMHO, she looks ridiculous doing a job that we know she's really not doing.
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Jimmy Owen

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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2005, 09:07:20 AM »
I would keep everything as is.  The only quibble I have is that I would prefer the show to be entirely live-to-tape, but the realities of television dictate otherwise.  

RE: Vanna. She is the most beloved game show model in history, Wheel would not have been the phenom it is without her.  She really doesn't need to have a function on the show, she just needs to be there.
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urbanpreppie05

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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2005, 11:33:03 AM »
It amazes me how people want things to stay exactly as they are...It doesn't even make sense for the old puzzleboard to be there, because, well, it's 2005.  Aussie Wheel and Glucksrad had non manual boards-In fact, Glucksrad had a giant video screen.  It would seem totally asinine to bring it back now, or fire vanna, as people do like her.

But there are some changes I would make-

-cut back the tossups from 3 to 1, at the beginning.

-Drop the No more vowels graphic.

-try to use the same set every week (which they have been doing a lot more this season)

-change the music to something more recognizable (sad to say, the current theme is full is quite nice)

But honestly, Wheel or Fortune as it is is decent, IMHO.
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tmq800

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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2005, 11:33:04 AM »
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jun 5 2005, 08:07 AM\']I would keep everything as is.  The only quibble I have is that I would prefer the show to be entirely live-to-tape, but the realities of television dictate otherwise. 

RE: Vanna. She is the most beloved game show model in history, Wheel would not have been the phenom it is without her.  She really doesn't need to have a function on the show, she just needs to be there.
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She has to be on the show to do the 'bumpers' whenever they go on the road.

Some notable 'bumpers' of the season:

'WHEEL OF FORTUNE' from San Francisco:  What a Masterpiece!

It's Official:  The Bonus Round is next.

We're back with more of America's Game.
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tvwxman

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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2005, 11:40:30 AM »
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jun 5 2005, 08:07 AM\']I would keep everything as is.  The only quibble I have is that I would prefer the show to be entirely live-to-tape, but the realities of television dictate otherwise. 
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What part isn't done live-to-tape? I've seen plenty of eps taped, and only once was there a stopdown, due to judges checking out a bonus round answer (was it in time or not)....
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aaron sica

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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2005, 11:49:15 AM »
IMHO, the show's best years were after they got rid of the shopping, and before the toss-up puzzles began. Just a straight show of spinning the wheel, guessing letters, and buying vowels, with the winner moving on to play the bonus round.

Although I do prefer the current bonus round (i.e. spinning the little wheel to determine the prize). I always found it interesting in the past that the bonus round had little to do with the main part of gameplay (i.e. a wheel).
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2005, 12:24:43 PM »
Most of my gripes have to do with the wheel itself. I don't like how the wheel became static with the exception of the big money space. I liked the variety that went with the wheels, and not the all round-2 daytime-style wheel. Since they'd do the wheel changes during the commercial breaks and there's probably already a small stopdown to load things on the wheel, I don't see too many production problems there.

I know the show has always wanted to try to give away more cash on the show. How bout we start by not making the wheel so lob-sided? I mean, 5000 then straight down to 900 seems a bit dumb. Granted it's always happened in the syndie version, but I still don't like it. The daytime version always had a very good balance with the wheels in its amounts. At least pre-1996 they kept the 1000 with round 3 and 1500 with round 4 to keep something of a little balance. Heck, bring the 2000 and 1250 out of retirement and stick them on the later wheels!

Vanna's normal job may seem ornamental, but remember that she also models some of the prizes.

I miss the shopping, but that boat's dead in the water. I can put up with cash.
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aaron sica

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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2005, 12:30:57 PM »
[quote name=\'tmq800\' date=\'Jun 5 2005, 11:33 AM\']
Some notable 'bumpers' of the season:

'WHEEL OF FORTUNE' from San Francisco:  What a Masterpiece!

It's Official:  The Bonus Round is next.

We're back with more of America's Game.
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What's notable about the last two?
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The Pyramids

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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2005, 12:32:25 PM »
Replace Vanna? Come on. I do not find much to quibble about today. Just compare 'Wheel's' production values with 'Family Feud.'

I would bring back one of the better themes the show has had over the years. The only other thing I do not like is adding the $1000 to the amount of the final spin. There used to be added suspense when Pat would land on a four digit amount rather than a three digit amount.
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2005, 01:32:42 PM »
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Jun 5 2005, 12:30 PM\'][quote name=\'tmq800\' date=\'Jun 5 2005, 11:33 AM\']
Some notable 'bumpers' of the season:

'WHEEL OF FORTUNE' from San Francisco:  What a Masterpiece!

It's Official:  The Bonus Round is next.

We're back with more of America's Game.
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What's notable about the last two?
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Steve Gavazzi

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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2005, 02:30:32 PM »
[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Jun 5 2005, 12:32 PM\']Replace Vanna? Come on. I do not find much to quibble about today. Just compare 'Wheel's' production values with 'Family Feud.'
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That's not a fair comparison, and you know it.  Try comparing Wheel's current production values to the ones from, say, the early '90s.  The show looked and felt much smoother back then.
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2005, 02:34:56 PM »
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Jun 5 2005, 01:30 PM\'][quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Jun 5 2005, 12:32 PM\']Replace Vanna? Come on. I do not find much to quibble about today. Just compare 'Wheel's' production values with 'Family Feud.'
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That's not a fair comparison, and you know it.  Try comparing Wheel's current production values to the ones from, say, the early '90s.  The show looked and felt much smoother back then.
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The show is too much of a mish-mash for me to really get into.  Everrything of Wheel is now a mish-mash, music, format, constant plugs.  If I were the producer, I'd keep the set, new bonus round, Pat and Vanna, the current dollar amouts, mystery spaces,  and ONE tossup, but I'd revert the format back to around 1989 otherwise.  It's just too distracting.

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tvwxman

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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2005, 02:41:15 PM »
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' date=\'Jun 5 2005, 01:30 PM\']
That's not a fair comparison, and you know it.  Try comparing Wheel's current production values to the ones from, say, the early '90s.  The show looked and felt much smoother back then.
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How did it feel smoother? Seriously, what was different?
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2005, 02:46:33 PM »
While there's nothing wrong with giving your opinion on the Toss ups and the way they do the bonus round these days, I will say this much:

The nitpicking about the graphics used is almost as senseless as those who whine about GSN's squeezed credits and cutting of the ticket plugs.
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