Author Topic: The Ultimate TV Game Show Book (Read 9788 times)

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #15 on:** June 22, 2005, 07:46:45 PM »

Are we assured there will be a second printing?

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #16 on:** June 22, 2005, 08:47:53 PM »

[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jun 22 2005, 06:53 PM\']Or, alternately, secure in the knowledge that there are fools in this hobby that will pay big coin for faulty merchandise, they rushed it to print knowing that they could sell some people two books instead of one.[/quote]
From every conceivable indication, "rushed it to print" is not a phrase that anyone directly involved in this project is ever going to use. Everything I've heard (including a little bit of inside stuff) is that the publisher is just this side of incompetent. I don't think they're nearly as clever as you suggest, and it wouldn't surprise me if there is no second printing once they start to see the limited sales they're going to get out of the first one.

calliaume · « **Reply #17 on:** June 22, 2005, 10:33:26 PM »

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jun 22 2005, 07:47 PM\']From every conceivable indication, "rushed it to print" is not a phrase that anyone directly involved in this project is ever going to use. Everything I've heard (including a little bit of inside stuff) is that the publisher is just this side of incompetent. I don't think they're nearly as clever as you suggest, and it wouldn't surprise me if there is no second printing once they start to see the limited sales they're going to get out of the first one.

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I've never heard of Volt Press, and I've been in the manufacturing end of the publishing industry nearly 20 years. I've heard of Bonus Books (their parent company), but they're not a mainstay in the field. (Not that my present publishing house is the biggest name out there, but we're well respected, and have done damn well considering very few publishers work out of suburban Illinois.)

I haven't seen the book, so I can't comment on how badly it was printed. But if it's the publisher's fault (and not the printer's), it's entirely possible the expense of reprinting the book outweighs the cost benefits. If it's the printer's fault, it's more likely to be reissued. (Again, I'd have to see the book to comment more specifically.)

Also, going back to the first entry, it can't just be the first 1,000 books off the press that are the problem. Books are printed from offset plates (except books printed digitally, but I doubt the first printing would have been done that way) - they don't change magically partway through the run. Either they're all correct or they're all wrong.

Jumpondees · « **Reply #18 on:** June 27, 2005, 03:21:58 AM »

I got my copy over the weekend at a Barnes & Noble here in the Pittsburgh area (there was only one copy in house, the only one I"m sure), and it wasn't until I got home that I discoverd that I indeed picked up a "blooper" copy. I know, I should have looked before I bought, but that's beside the point. I bought the book on content potential alone, and I wasn't let down.

My girlfriend (who still thinks I'm nuts for having as much game show knowledge as I do) spent several hours quizzing me on material in the book (before I had a chance to really read thru it). And as much material I did know in this book, there was an equal amount of material in this book that I didn't know.

I enjoyed the photos that were in the book even if they or the captions were screwed up in any way.

I think I'm going to hold on to this and get a good copy when I can get one, and perhaps save my misprinted edition to perhaps have Steve and/or Fred sign for me one day should I be fortunate enough to meet them.

mystery7 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 27, 2005, 04:38:37 PM »

[quote name=\'Jumpondees\' date=\'Jun 27 2005, 02:21 AM\']I think I'm going to hold on to this and get a good copy when I can get one, and perhaps save my misprinted edition to perhaps have Steve and/or Fred sign for me one day should I be fortunate enough to meet them.

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Wouldn't you think the good copy would be the one to have them sign?

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #20 on:** June 27, 2005, 04:42:16 PM »

I hate to say this, but I don't think there are going to be any "good" copies.

JohnTheGameMan · « **Reply #21 on:** June 27, 2005, 08:32:57 PM »

I received my copy last week via Amazon, which I had ordered about one year ago. I did get a blooper copy, but so what. This is a very enjoyable book and I had lots of fun reminiscing on the great game shows of the past. I'm hoping to get a copy of it for my friend who is also into game shows.

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #22 on:** June 28, 2005, 12:31:16 PM »

If the whole run was misprint, at what point will you guys stop referring to them as "blooper copies"? Every single message about getting one has mentioned this, almost as if you're surprised by it. Somebody tell us you got one without the mistakes. THAT apparently would be news!

Passepartout · « **Reply #23 on:** June 28, 2005, 01:28:24 PM »

Hey I love game shows so I will buy the book on Amazon.com anyway!

Don Howard · « **Reply #24 on:** June 28, 2005, 01:43:28 PM »

[quote name=\'Passepartout\' date=\'Jun 28 2005, 12:28 PM\']Hey I love game shows so I will buy the book on Amazon.com anyway!

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clemon79 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 28, 2005, 02:53:29 PM »

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jun 28 2005, 09:31 AM\']If the whole run was misprint, at what point will you guys stop referring to them as "blooper copies"?
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What I wanna know is: at what point will these suckers stop buying shoddily-produced books?

I'm thinking I could go out, buy a bunch of spiral notepads, scrawl some game show titles down onto them, and make a mint.

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #26 on:** June 28, 2005, 03:29:17 PM »

[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jun 28 2005, 02:53 PM\']What I wanna know is: at what point will these suckers stop buying shoddily-produced books?[/quote]
Oh, I'm definitely getting one myself. The content ought to be there, even if the presentation is seriously lacking. But I know full well what to expect, and I don't plan on announcing to the assembled masses that I too have a "blooper copy".

clemon79 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 28, 2005, 03:43:38 PM »

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jun 28 2005, 12:29 PM\']Oh, I'm definitely getting one myself. The content ought to be there, even if the presentation is seriously lacking. But I know full well what to expect, and I don't plan on announcing to the assembled masses that I too have a "blooper copy".
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Right, and that's fine. You wanna buy it for the words, that's excellent. But I am as perplexed as you (and we really shouldn't be, based on what we've seen in the past) over these people who are clamoring to snap up these defective copies, despite repeated warnings from those in a position to know that they have NO collector value and are NOT likely to be corrected.

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #28 on:** June 28, 2005, 03:48:56 PM »

There is no guarantee that the book will be any cheaper on ebay in a few years, so I say buy it now, defects and all!

clemon79 · « **Reply #29 on:** June 28, 2005, 04:08:41 PM »

[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jun 28 2005, 12:48 PM\']There is no guarantee that the book will be any cheaper on ebay in a few years, so I say buy it now, defects and all!
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There is, however, no guarantee that it will be any more valuable, either.

It's just like buying a baseball card. Buy it because you enjoy the card and enjoy looking at it. Buy it because you think it will have a perceived value down the road, and you deserve what you get.

Years ago, when I was still a Dodger fan, shortly after they won the World Series in 1988, I bought Orel Hershiser's rookie card. I think I dropped like eight bucks on it, 'cuz Orel was hotter than a pistol then. Could I get that much for it today? Well, I dunno, but I'm guessing the rookie card of a pitching coach for the Texas Rangers isn't worth any $8. Would I sell it in a million years? Gawd no. 'Cuz the memories of that season are worth FAR more than whatever it could bring.

/What? $50,000? Hell, I can BUY memories....