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Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: ed1202 on August 11, 2006, 04:10:54 PM
Here's the link:


http://www.tvweek.com/news.cms?newsId=10524 (http://\"http://www.tvweek.com/news.cms?newsId=10524\")


BTW, hello everyone! Long time lurker, first time poster.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: clemon79 on August 11, 2006, 04:24:21 PM
[quote name=\'ed1202\' post=\'127079\' date=\'Aug 11 2006, 01:10 PM\']
Here's the link:

http://www.tvweek.com/news.cms?newsId=10524 (http://\"http://www.tvweek.com/news.cms?newsId=10524\")

BTW, hello everyone! Long time lurker, first time poster.
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And me (hopefully) buying a hi-def TV tomorrow. I might start watching again, just to see Alex's zits. :)
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: bandit_bobby on August 11, 2006, 04:32:04 PM
It's just the same thing as a letterbox format, folks (I think). See "Late Night With Conan O' Brien" and
you'll see what I mean.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: clemon79 on August 11, 2006, 04:34:26 PM
[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'127084\' date=\'Aug 11 2006, 01:32 PM\']
(I think)
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Really? When did this start?

Certainly not with that post.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: aaron sica on August 11, 2006, 04:44:50 PM
[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'127084\' date=\'Aug 11 2006, 04:32 PM\']
It's just the same thing as a letterbox format, folks (I think). See "Late Night With Conan O' Brien" and
you'll see what I mean.
[/quote]

Uh, no. HD is not the same thing as a letterbox format. HD is - oh, never mind. I just realized who I was talking to.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: MikeK on August 11, 2006, 04:59:44 PM
[quote name=\'ed1202\' post=\'127079\' date=\'Aug 11 2006, 04:10 PM\']
Here's the link:

http://www.tvweek.com/news.cms?newsId=10524 (http://\"http://www.tvweek.com/news.cms?newsId=10524\")[/quote]
I'm pretty sure we covered this after the WoF season premiere taping last month.

Wheel looks amazing in Hi Def.  It's almost enough to make me watch Wheel on a semi-regular basis.  Alas, Millionaire's on at the same time.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: SimpsonGeek on August 12, 2006, 01:03:42 AM
I believe the article is wrong in calling these the first HD syndicated shows. Seinfeld went HD a few months ago, just very few (if any) stations picked it up.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: Brandon Brooks on August 12, 2006, 01:22:19 AM
When this topic was mentioned previously, I must have completely missed that the new board is a giant screen.  At any rate, I'll ask this question again: anyone who's been to a taping--are the clues 16:9?

Brandon Brooks
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: tvwxman on August 12, 2006, 06:07:19 AM
[quote name=\'SimpsonGeek\' post=\'127127\' date=\'Aug 12 2006, 01:03 AM\']
I believe the article is wrong in calling these the first HD syndicated shows. Seinfeld went HD a few months ago, just very few (if any) stations picked it up.
[/quote]
Incorrect statement, in terms of Seinfeld NOT being taped in HD, unlike Wheel and Jep.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: Gus on August 12, 2006, 02:34:49 PM
[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' post=\'127131\' date=\'Aug 12 2006, 01:22 AM\']
When this topic was mentioned previously, I must have completely missed that the new board is a giant screen.  At any rate, I'll ask this question again: anyone who's been to a taping--are the clues 16:9?
[/quote]

I wasn't at a Jeopardy taping, but I was at the first Wheel taping of the season, and while the program is taped in 16:9, all the critical elements are kept within a 4:3 area in the middle of the screen, so a wide-angle shot of the puzzle board has a lot of marginal space in widescreen, which leads me to believe that Wheel will be reduced to 4:3 for standard-def broadcasts.

I can't think of a compelling reason for Jeopardy to have a different production method, so I would venture a guess that the clues will be confined to a 4:3 area in the middle of the widescreen shot to facilitate aspect reduction, but as I haven't actually seen or heard anything involving the transmission of either J! or Wheel, my comments will just have to be taken at face value.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: clemon79 on August 12, 2006, 02:39:38 PM
[quote name=\'Gus\' post=\'127174\' date=\'Aug 12 2006, 11:34 AM\']
I wasn't at a Jeopardy taping, but I was at the first Wheel taping of the season, and while the program is taped in 16:9, all the critical elements are kept within a 4:3 area in the middle of the screen, so a wide-angle shot of the puzzle board has a lot of marginal space in widescreen, which leads me to believe that Wheel will be reduced to 4:3 for standard-def broadcasts.

I can't think of a compelling reason for Jeopardy to have a different production method, so I would venture a guess that the clues will be confined to a 4:3 area in the middle of the widescreen shot, but as I haven't actually seen or heard anything involving the transmission of either J! or Wheel, my comments will just have to be taken at face value.
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Very reasonable assessments, I think. Really, they have two choices: either clip the edges for standard-def, or air the show with black bars, like they did with West Wing. They air with black bars, and they're gonna piss off the oldsters that now have to squint at their TV, who, like it or not, are a large part of their audience. So they clip the edges, and throw a little extra pretty at those of us who DO have the hi-def, but don't include any really important elements there.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: tvwxman on August 12, 2006, 04:08:24 PM
[quote name=\'Gus\' post=\'127174\' date=\'Aug 12 2006, 02:34 PM\']
[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' post=\'127131\' date=\'Aug 12 2006, 01:22 AM\']
When this topic was mentioned previously, I must have completely missed that the new board is a giant screen.  At any rate, I'll ask this question again: anyone who's been to a taping--are the clues 16:9?
[/quote]

I wasn't at a Jeopardy taping, but I was at the first Wheel taping of the season, and while the program is taped in 16:9, all the critical elements are kept within a 4:3 area in the middle of the screen, so a wide-angle shot of the puzzle board has a lot of marginal space in widescreen, which leads me to believe that Wheel will be reduced to 4:3 for standard-def broadcasts.

I can't think of a compelling reason for Jeopardy to have a different production method, so I would venture a guess that the clues will be confined to a 4:3 area in the middle of the widescreen shot to facilitate aspect reduction, but as I haven't actually seen or heard anything involving the transmission of either J! or Wheel, my comments will just have to be taken at face value.
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Well put. And while I'm hoping to see some radical adjustment in the set come September, I have a feeling it will just be shot looser to accommodate black bars.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: remlap on August 12, 2006, 08:35:31 PM
Ah least with the UK we dont have to worry how shows are shot in Widescreen, just need to get used to shows beeing shot in HD.

From the shows ive seen of BBC HD shot and aired in HD on thier test station, I look forward to the inevietable time 2010 at the latest that a BBC panel quiz show is HD.

So a syndicated Game and Quiz Show goes HD before networked Deal or No Deal (Which probably be the awesome)... typical

I have a question, I know the FCC mandated all tv sets be able to pick up ATSC signals but are all tv sets sold now 16:9 or are still some 4:3?
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: Brandon Brooks on August 12, 2006, 08:41:52 PM
[quote name=\'remlap\' post=\'127189\' date=\'Aug 12 2006, 07:35 PM\']
Ah least with the UK we dont have to worry how shows are shot in Widescreen, just need to get used to shows beeing shot in HD.

From the shows ive seen of BBC HD shot and aired in HD on thier test station, I look forward to the inevietable time 2010 at the latest that a BBC panel quiz show is HD.

So a syndicated Game and Quiz Show goes HD before networked Deal or No Deal (Which probably be the awesome)... typical

I have a question, I know the FCC mandated all tv sets be able to pick up ATSC signals but are all tv sets sold now 16:9 or are still some 4:3?
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Many are still 4:3.  I bought a HD set earlier this year that's 4:3.

Brandon Brooks
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: remlap on August 12, 2006, 09:36:13 PM
[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' post=\'127191\' date=\'Aug 13 2006, 01:41 AM\']
Many are still 4:3.  I bought a HD set earlier this year that's 4:3.

Brandon Brooks
[/quote]

Thank you, shocking really, I hope all 16:9 shows broadcast in ATSC are 4:3 freindly with logos and such.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: Bob Zager on August 15, 2006, 06:05:59 PM
Here is a link to a message posted at Jeopardy's own forum.  It shows a small illustration of Alex at a new podium, and some comparison shots of the set, before and after the HD modifications to it:

http://boards.sonypictures.com/boards/showthread.php?t=26260 (http://\"http://boards.sonypictures.com/boards/showthread.php?t=26260\")
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: FeudDude on August 15, 2006, 06:54:54 PM
I'm glad they got rid of those ugly angular contestant podiums.  The new ones are a huge improvement.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on August 15, 2006, 07:36:05 PM
I really like the new set adjustments. Not that it does anything to the gameplay, but I was wondering when they would change from 30 monitors to a solitary screen. The new podiums look nice, but it looks like there's a lot of black. Hopefully they look okay on TV.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: clemon79 on August 15, 2006, 07:54:19 PM
[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'127528\' date=\'Aug 15 2006, 04:36 PM\']
The new podiums look nice, but it looks like there's a lot of black. Hopefully they look okay on TV.
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I'm gonna guess that's intentional. One of the great things about hidef, I'm finding, is that blacks look REALLY black, and I'd think a television show set is gonna wanna show that off for a little while, while that's still something special.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: TonicBH on August 15, 2006, 08:42:01 PM
While I thought the current J! podiums were tacky, I like these... but I've only seen them from an angle, hopefully we'll get a more frontal shot soon. But they look like they harken back to the old podiums.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: chad1m on August 16, 2006, 02:01:43 PM
Here is a link (http://\"http://boards.sonypictures.com/boards/showthread.php?t=26260\") to images of the newly-revised, you could say, Jeopardy! set. The most drastic of the changes is probably the contestant podiums. They're more rounded, and have a darker scheme to them. The game board's border has changed as well, as well as an apparent change to Alex's lectern, but you cannot see it that well from the pictures.

In my opinion, I think the new podiums are pretty cool. I'll miss the old ones, but who doesn't like a bit of change once in a while?

(Merged into already-existing thread, which was just a few down.  Please check more carefully in the future. -DZ)
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: remlap on August 16, 2006, 02:51:00 PM
What im puzzled about is, wont certain markets have different resolutions so what res will it be feeded in?

1080i down to 720p always sucks with de-interlacing so will be 1080p to cover both?
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: Red on August 16, 2006, 04:51:11 PM
Man, Jeopardy could earn some of the money they lost to Ken if they just auction off Ken's podium, as I'm sure he'd pay a hefty sum for it.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: clemon79 on August 16, 2006, 04:52:36 PM
[quote name=\'Red\' post=\'127677\' date=\'Aug 16 2006, 01:51 PM\']
Man, Jeopardy could earn all the money they lost to Ken if they just auction off Ken's podium, as I'm sure he'd pay a hefty sum for it.
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Considering all of the publicity he brought to the show, and his willingness to be the dancing monkey in the UToC, they should damned well give it to him for free. WITH the plasma monitor in it.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: Brandon Brooks on August 16, 2006, 08:59:22 PM
[quote name=\'remlap\' post=\'127665\' date=\'Aug 16 2006, 01:51 PM\']
What im puzzled about is, wont certain markets have different resolutions so what res will it be feeded in?

1080i down to 720p always sucks with de-interlacing so will be 1080p to cover both?
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What I'm guess is that Sony will send each the market their cooresponding format.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on August 16, 2006, 09:50:58 PM
Well, I remember a few years back when they auctioned the previous Jeopardy! set on Ebay. Brad Rutter bought one of those podiums for about $5,000, if I remember correctly.

Assuming they auction these podiums off as well, if you'd rather have a Jeopardy! podium in your den rather than a pool table, then the price may not be that much different.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: gtbecbp on August 17, 2006, 12:02:34 AM
Sony will only be sending 1080i.

Ben
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: Bob Zager on August 21, 2006, 08:31:02 PM
During the intermission, before Final Jeopardy! tonight, there was a moment where Alex Trebek was talking about the upcoming tapings in New York City.  He was apparently standing in front of the new gameboard!

The logo and background to it were just like shown in the illustration I gave the link to earlier, and as described in the press release, the huge videowall is seam-free.   It will retain the simulated beveled-edge glass look in the money/clue rectangles, introduced during the 1996-97 season.  Curious to see, come next month, an actual game played on the new board.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: SimpsonGeek on August 22, 2006, 04:32:35 PM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'127139\' date=\'Aug 12 2006, 05:07 AM\']
[quote name=\'SimpsonGeek\' post=\'127127\' date=\'Aug 12 2006, 01:03 AM\']
I believe the article is wrong in calling these the first HD syndicated shows. Seinfeld went HD a few months ago, just very few (if any) stations picked it up.
[/quote]
Incorrect statement, in terms of Seinfeld NOT being taped in HD, unlike Wheel and Jep.
[/quote]



It was infact shot on film, which is easily transferred to HD.
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: gameshowguy2000 on August 22, 2006, 04:53:28 PM
I've taken a look at the new set, and the board still seems to have the "video-wall" look.

I read somewhere that the new board won't be a video wall anymore. Am I right?
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: clemon79 on August 22, 2006, 05:06:51 PM
[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' post=\'128464\' date=\'Aug 22 2006, 01:53 PM\']
I've taken a look at the new set, and the board still seems to have the "video-wall" look.
I read somewhere that the new board won't be a video wall anymore. Am I right?
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If by that you mean "won't be a wall of physically interconnected smaller monitors designed to work in tandem to simulate a larger one", then yes. Will it still be a huge freakin' wall capable of full-motion video? Also yes.

(Am I probably going to regret getting into this discussion? Almost assuredly yes.)
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: Brandon Brooks on August 22, 2006, 07:18:53 PM
[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' post=\'128464\' date=\'Aug 22 2006, 03:53 PM\']
I've taken a look at the new set, and the board still seems to have the "video-wall" look.

I read somewhere that the new board won't be a video wall anymore. Am I right?
[/quote]
Huh?
Title: Wheel and Jeopardy! in HD
Post by: TimK2003 on August 22, 2006, 07:39:47 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'128468\' date=\'Aug 22 2006, 04:06 PM\']
[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' post=\'128464\' date=\'Aug 22 2006, 01:53 PM\']
I've taken a look at the new set, and the board still seems to have the "video-wall" look.
I read somewhere that the new board won't be a video wall anymore. Am I right?
[/quote]
If by that you mean "won't be a wall of physically interconnected smaller monitors designed to work in tandem to simulate a larger one", then yes. Will it still be a huge freakin' wall capable of full-motion video? Also yes.

(Am I probably going to regret getting into this discussion? Almost assuredly yes.)
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Will the video wall also have the capacity to offer 1.5 Godzillian colors of light like Wheel???
:-)