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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: JasonA1 on September 27, 2006, 02:55:21 PM
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In either format, did the first three picks bonus refer only to a player's first trip to the board in a game? Or did it mean any chance at the board where the first three picks matched earned the bonus?
And further, the later bonus (in the first-player-to-match-3-times-wins format) is referred to as an "instant win." So does that mean you could wipe out two opponents from the show by matching on your first three picks?
There's some confusion due to the clip on Jamie's site where a guy wins $5,000. He made his 3rd match in the series meaning he was entitled to a $5,000 prize package. Bill says "the instant match does not apply," however the flashing art card said "$10,000 winner." With the other opponents showing 2 matches each on their desks, it would have been impossible for that award to be the 7 straight bonus of 5k and a new car.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'132796\' date=\'Sep 27 2006, 02:55 PM\']
In either format, did the first three picks bonus refer only to a player's first trip to the board in a game? Or did it mean any chance at the board where the first three picks matched earned the bonus?[/quote]
The terminology was tricky, so you're mixing up a couple of different things.
Remember that you have to win three "matches" in order to win the "game". However, if your first three picks matched -- at any time you went to the board -- you automatically won the game right then. It wasn't a "bonus", think of it instead as an "instant win".
The only reason Cullen said that the instant match didn't apply was because the player already had two matches, so this would be his third match anyway. And the reason the card flashed "$10,000 Winner" was because he had already won one game, so this was his second $5,000 win for a TOTAL of $10,000.
Separate from all of that, the "bonus" of a new car and five thousand dollars was waiting at the end of the line for anybody who won seven entire games, which would take a week or more of playing.
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So, that said, assuming that a player managed to scrape together $90 (or some lesser amount plus Free Boxes from the category) on the very first question of a brand-spanking-new game, and was insane enough to go to the board and match on only three picks, is that it? The other two players participated in one single auction, and out the door they go with a case of Turtle Wax and the home game?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'132800\' date=\'Sep 27 2006, 03:41 PM\']
So, that said, assuming that a player managed to scrape together $90 (or some lesser amount plus Free Boxes from the category) on the very first question of a brand-spanking-new game, and was insane enough to go to the board and match on only three picks, is that it? The other two players participated in one single auction, and out the door they go with a case of Turtle Wax and the home game?[/quote]
I want to say -- though you're talking about a thirteen-year-old's memory from three decades ago -- that if somebody got an instant win in the first match that all three players stayed around for a new game.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'132802\' date=\'Sep 27 2006, 12:49 PM\']
I want to say -- though you're talking about a thirteen-year-old's memory from three decades ago -- that if somebody got an instant win in the first match that all three players stayed around for a new game.
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That would make sense, only because the chances of it happening are pretty astronomical. (They're looking at a 1-in-16 shot, right? Doesn't matter what box you turn over first, then a 1 in 4 of matching that, and then a 1 in 4 of matching _that_.)
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Separate from all of that, the "bonus" of a new car and five thousand dollars was waiting at the end of the line for anybody who won seven entire games
Even though in his copy Don Pardo says "any player who wins seven matches in a row" I'm going to assume you're right. You don't really "win" the matches used to keep score in a game, you make matches.
It would be anticlimatic as well for somebody to have made six matches winning two games to pick up $5,000 and a car for 1 match in a new game.
Man, that's confuddling stuff.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'132805\' date=\'Sep 27 2006, 01:00 PM\']
Even though in his copy Don Pardo says "any player who wins seven matches in a row" I'm going to assume you're right. You don't really "win" the matches used to keep score in a game, you make matches.
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You are confusing the concept of a "match" in the sense of "finding three of the same symbol" and "match" as in "first person to find three of the same symbol three times."
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On most shows, winning the game is nice, but winning the match (two or three games) is the ultimate goal.
In the instance of Three On A Match, winning a match is nice, but winning the game (three matches) is the ultimate goal.
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Is it any wonder why this show was so short lived? :-)
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[quote name=\'whewfan\' post=\'132809\' date=\'Sep 27 2006, 03:23 PM\']
Is it any wonder why this show was so short lived? :-)
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I wouldn't call three or four years "short lived".
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[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' post=\'132810\' date=\'Sep 27 2006, 03:36 PM\']
[quote name=\'whewfan\' post=\'132809\' date=\'Sep 27 2006, 03:23 PM\']
Is it any wonder why this show was so short lived? :-)
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I wouldn't call three or four years "short lived".
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And lots of things changed over the run. Initially, all of the boards had prizes and contestants only played one match. Win one auction, get a Double Pot and be lucky at the board and win a prize in two minutes, you stick around while your opponents visit the Land of Parting Gifts (tm Bill Rafterty). So they come up with the symbols and the multiple-match format to let contestants stick around a little longer (although winning about as much as they would win in three single wins under the original format).
Later, front game format gets changed again--gone goes the auction, lockouts are installed on the desks and Bill asks five questions to be answered similarly (for example, with the name of a TV game show), each one worth ten dollars more than the previous one. If you are over $90 in your total and you buzz in and answer correctly, Bill asks you if you want to go to the board. If you don't, he asks another tossup. This means the game moves a little faster than category reveal/auction/asking the true-or-false questions.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'132803\' date=\'Sep 27 2006, 03:52 PM\']That would make sense, only because the chances of it happening are pretty astronomical. (They're looking at a 1-in-16 shot, right? Doesn't matter what box you turn over first, then a 1 in 4 of matching that, and then a 1 in 4 of matching _that_.)[/quote]
Even less than that, if you've got "No Match" in play.
And while I've mentioned it, anyone know the deal with "No Match"? Was it on every board? Just in the $20 column?
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'132815\' date=\'Sep 27 2006, 02:07 PM\']
This means the game moves a little faster than category reveal/auction/asking the true-or-false questions.
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That makes me very sad, since the cancellation auction is my very favorite part of that show.
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And while I've mentioned it, anyone know the deal with "No Match"? Was it on every board? Just in the $20 column?
I wish I could answer the first question, but I haven't seen enough episodes to confirm or deny...:). But, for the second one, I can answer that it could appear anywhere; I think, in the prior episode that Jamie put up, a game had the "No Match" in the $30 column.
I really wish I was alive when this show was on, or that NBC had saved more episodes of it; I've really enjoyed this show (thanks Jamie!).
Anthony
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Another question, after seeing the show on Jamie's site: It seems to me, the strategy would be to pick the $40 column first and work left because it's cheaper that way. You only have to buy one $40 box, then match the others to it. So why didn't they do that?
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'132830\' date=\'Sep 27 2006, 07:30 PM\']
Another question, after seeing the show on Jamie's site: It seems to me, the strategy would be to pick the $40 column first and work left because it's cheaper that way. You only have to buy one $40 box, then match the others to it. So why didn't they do that?[/quote]
That's usually a good strategy -- unless you won "free boxes" in your true-false round. The free boxes would always be given to you last, so you typically saved them for the $40 column and used your money to buy more of the less expensive boxes.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'132815\' date=\'Sep 27 2006, 05:07 PM\']
Later, front game format gets changed again--gone goes the auction, lockouts are installed on the desks and Bill asks five questions to be answered similarly (for example, with the name of a TV game show), each one worth ten dollars more than the previous one. If you are over $90 in your total and you buzz in and answer correctly, Bill asks you if you want to go to the board. If you don't, he asks another tossup. [/quote]
Y'know, I thought I remembered a buzz-in version of this game, but couldn't remember any of the details.
It was still a three-matches-wins-the-game format then, yes?
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Later, front game format gets changed again--gone goes the auction, lockouts are installed on the desks and Bill asks five questions to be answered similarly (for example, with the name of a TV game show), each one worth ten dollars more than the previous one. If you are over $90 in your total and you buzz in and answer correctly, Bill asks you if you want to go to the board. If you don't, he asks another tossup. This means the game moves a little faster than category reveal/auction/asking the true-or-false questions.
I have no memory of this particular variation at all. Does anybody know when it started? It must have been pretty close to the end.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'132876\' date=\'Sep 28 2006, 09:05 AM\']
I have no memory of this particular variation at all. Does anybody know when it started? It must have been pretty close to the end.
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Near as Matt O and I have been able to discuss, it was the last couple of months.
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'132879\' date=\'Sep 28 2006, 10:16 AM\']
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'132876\' date=\'Sep 28 2006, 09:05 AM\']
I have no memory of this particular variation at all. Does anybody know when it started? It must have been pretty close to the end.
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Near as Matt O and I have been able to discuss, it was the last couple of months.[/quote]
It would just about have to be. The episodes on Jamie's page are from February, 1974 and the show was cancelled in June.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'132815\' date=\'Sep 27 2006, 05:07 PM\']
Later, front game format gets changed again--gone goes the auction, lockouts are installed on the desks and Bill asks five questions to be answered similarly (for example, with the name of a TV game show), each one worth ten dollars more than the previous one. If you are over $90 in your total and you buzz in and answer correctly, Bill asks you if you want to go to the board. If you don't, he asks another tossup. This means the game moves a little faster than category reveal/auction/asking the true-or-false questions.
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Yeah, that's exactly how the new front game format worked. The first question was worth $40, and each subsequent question was worth ten dollars more than the previous one. Also, if a player buzzed in, and answered incorrectly, the value of the question was equally split between the other two players.
I also recall, that very briefly during this format, the dollar values on the board were $30, $40, and $50. So, if somebody called out "$40 on the red," the red box, in the middle column turned over, not the one in the right-hand column. It confused me when that happened, and probably confused some contestants, too, since shortly thereafter, they went back to $20, $30, and $40.
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[quote name=\'Bob Zager\' post=\'132911\' date=\'Sep 28 2006, 06:47 PM\']
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'132815\' date=\'Sep 27 2006, 05:07 PM\']
Later, front game format gets changed again--gone goes the auction, lockouts are installed on the desks and Bill asks five questions to be answered similarly (for example, with the name of a TV game show), each one worth ten dollars more than the previous one. If you are over $90 in your total and you buzz in and answer correctly, Bill asks you if you want to go to the board. If you don't, he asks another tossup. This means the game moves a little faster than category reveal/auction/asking the true-or-false questions.
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Yeah, that's exactly how the new front game format worked. The first question was worth $40, and each subsequent question was worth ten dollars more than the previous one. Also, if a player buzzed in, and answered incorrectly, the value of the question was equally split between the other two players.
I also recall, that very briefly during this format, the dollar values on the board were $30, $40, and $50. So, if somebody called out "$40 on the red," the red box, in the middle column turned over, not the one in the right-hand column. It confused me when that happened, and probably confused some contestants, too, since shortly thereafter, they went back to $20, $30, and $40.
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so there was no way to get free boxes then? This goes back to the earlier question in the thread because you would have to have a nice bankroll since you had to have enough to cover many selections at your expense. I can't imagine trying it without at least 200 bucks to spend (with the 30,40,50 amounts)
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That second format doesn't sound as good. I thought the auction was a neat idea, and provided a good bit of strategy with the wagering. (Keep in mind though, the only exposure I've had to this show is the episode Jamie put up.)
Wonder why it switched formats so late in the run. Perhaps a last-ditch effort to attract viewers?
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[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'133003\' date=\'Sep 30 2006, 12:02 AM\']
Wonder why it switched formats so late in the run. Perhaps a last-ditch effort to attract viewers?
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It sure wasn't 'cause there was a sale on lockouts at Ikea.
The last format--such that I recall it only dimly, at that--seemed a doubly bad idea: another aspect of the auction round that I hadn't thought of 'til just now is that it's the flip side of the rest of the game: it's the part where the "Three" don't want to be "on a Match." Perfect!
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[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'133003\' date=\'Sep 30 2006, 12:02 AM\']
Wonder why it switched formats so late in the run. Perhaps a last-ditch effort to attract viewers?
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I sense the hand of Lin Bolen in this. Similar wisdom was in evidence when Jackpot went to straight questioning and abandoned the riddles.