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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: PYLdude on December 05, 2006, 01:36:03 PM
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I guess we've stepped back in time on the Perry CS, because Patrice is making her run.
As a former member of this board established earlier, she not only won on this version, but we also saw her on the Rafferty CS a few years later as champ.
Wouldn't there have normally been rules in place where if you had already been on the show in any previous incarnation, that automatically disqualified you from future appearances on any version of the show?
Or am I just imagining things, seeing the rules for the syndie Millionaire (which explicitly say that Regis' contestants can't appear on Meredith's show) and thinking those type always apply?
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'139629\' date=\'Dec 5 2006, 12:36 PM\']
I guess we've stepped back in time on the Perry CS, because Patrice is making her run.
As a former member of this board established earlier, she not only won on this version, but we also saw her on the Rafferty CS a few years later as champ.
Wouldn't there have normally been rules in place where if you had already been on the show in any previous incarnation, that automatically disqualified you from future appearances on any version of the show?
Or am I just imagining things, seeing the rules for the syndie Millionaire (which explicitly say that Regis' contestants can't appear on Meredith's show) and thinking those type always apply?
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Not sure what the rules are, but that's not the only example. The classic Rafferty CS clip where contestant Maury doesn't know who Madonna is (Maury kept calling her a "him"), for example. Maury was a champ on Perry's version in August 1980. Made Mother McKenzie go wild with this exchange:
Jim: We asked 100 airline flight attendants. Has a pregnant woman ever given birth on one of your flights? How many said "yes"?
Maury: Oh, that's happened--it's been reported. I had nothing to do with it, though.
So I'm guessing they didn't have any such restriction in place, but that's purely a guess.
Doug -- and the countdown to 2500 continues
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Not CS related, but Goodson related.
A while back on YouTube I saw a clip from an Anderson Feud that one of the team members mentioning that she had been on the show in the early years of Dawson's run. I know there wasn't much institutional memory at that point given the then-Pearson braintrust was different from the G/T braintrust, but wouldn't this be a similar case?
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'139629\' date=\'Dec 5 2006, 01:36 PM\']I guess we've stepped back in time on the Perry CS, because Patrice is making her run.[/quote]
According to my site, this was episode #310, first aired on July 2, 1979. I'm not sure how we "stepped back". I hope to can remember to check back in about four months when GSN picks up the run where it left off the last time they got this far.
BTW, didn't one MG98 contestant say she had appeared on MG75?
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' post=\'139690\' date=\'Dec 5 2006, 08:02 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'139629\' date=\'Dec 5 2006, 01:36 PM\']I guess we've stepped back in time on the Perry CS, because Patrice is making her run.[/quote]
According to my site, this was episode #310, first aired on July 2, 1979. I'm not sure how we "stepped back". I hope to can remember to check back in about four months when GSN picks up the run where it left off the last time they got this far.
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I think we're actually a few days later than that. From your site, today's rerun should have been the 7/5/79 ep (Patrice vs. Patti).
Of course, what do I know?
Doug -- and the countdown to 2500 continues
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'139711\' date=\'Dec 5 2006, 11:06 PM\']
[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' post=\'139690\' date=\'Dec 5 2006, 08:02 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'139629\' date=\'Dec 5 2006, 01:36 PM\']I guess we've stepped back in time on the Perry CS, because Patrice is making her run.[/quote]
According to my site, this was episode #310, first aired on July 2, 1979. I'm not sure how we "stepped back". I hope to can remember to check back in about four months when GSN picks up the run where it left off the last time they got this far.
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I think we're actually a few days later than that. From your site, today's rerun should have been the 7/5/79 ep (Patrice vs. Patti).
Of course, what do I know?
Doug -- and the countdown to 2500 continues
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Yeah..."stepped back" was a poor choice of words.
Doug, you are correct. Today's rerun was the 7/5/79 ep.
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Risha Golby even made a reappearance on Rafferty's Card Sharks in '86, but her luck wasn't much better.
--Jamie
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Wouldn't there have normally been rules in place where if you had already been on the show in any previous incarnation, that automatically disqualified you from future appearances on any version of the show?
Do you think it's just the case of giving contestants they thought deserved a better fate another chance? I remember hearing Richard Dawson say to a few families who lost on the daytime version of Feud, something like "we'll use you on our nighttime show". Maybe they thought it those particular contestants were entertaining enough that it would make for another interesting show to have them back again.
Just speculating...
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'139741\' date=\'Dec 6 2006, 05:52 AM\']
I remember hearing Richard Dawson say to a few families who lost on the daytime version of Feud, something like "we'll use you on our nighttime show".
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Richard Dawson did a lot of talking out of his hat when he was doing that show.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'139741\' date=\'Dec 6 2006, 08:52 AM\']
Do you think it's just the case of giving contestants they thought deserved a better fate another chance? I remember hearing Richard Dawson say to a few families who lost on the daytime version of Feud, something like "we'll use you on our nighttime show". Maybe they thought it those particular contestants were entertaining enough that it would make for another interesting show to have them back again.
Just speculating...
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You raise a good point, but I find 2 things that would cancel it out.
1) Let's not forget, Patrice had 7 years between her appearances, and I'm willing to bet that few, if any, who saw her on the original CS back in '79 would remember her when she did her second turn on Rafferty's show seven years later.
2) She won over $10,000 in her first run on Card Sharks. I don't think that's too bad a fate.
Then again, I never said I knew much about the inner workings of game shows, so what can I say to that?
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Also appearing in a different incarnation of a program upon which he was a contestant was Peter Nagel. You remember? Joker, JOKER! JOKER!!! JOKER!!!!! JOKER!!!!!!!!
He won over $20000 in the late 1970s on The Joker's Wild and also played on the early 1990s edition.
Didn't someone from the Art Fleming era of Jeopardy! play in the Alex Trebek-hosted version, too?
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I saw a family on the Dawson syndie version and lose, and come back for Ray Combs' return in 1988. I think it was mentioned somewhere that MGP had a record of all its contestants and sometimes brought them back for other shows/revivals when the contestant pool was low.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'139779\' date=\'Dec 6 2006, 03:51 PM\']
Also appearing in a different incarnation of a program upon which he was a contestant was Peter Nagel. You remember? Joker, JOKER! JOKER!!! JOKER!!!!! JOKER!!!!!!!!
He won over $20000 in the late 1970s on The Joker's Wild and also played on the early 1990s edition.
Didn't someone from the Art Fleming era of Jeopardy! play in the Alex Trebek-hosted version, too?
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Probably, but I can't remember the details.
We also had some PYL contestants play WHAMMY! And at least one was not from the Michael Larson reign of terror. Again, memory wreaking havoc.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'139779\' date=\'Dec 6 2006, 04:51 PM\']Didn't someone from the Art Fleming era of Jeopardy! play in the Alex Trebek-hosted version, too?[/quote]
Burns Cameron participated in Super Jeopardy! Within the past year or so, I'm pretty sure there was a female contestant who was on the original Jeopardy! circa 1971.
EDIT: Mary LoSardo (http://\"http://www.j-archive.com/showplayer.php?player_id=1736&highlight=1971\"). I love the Internets!
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I seem to recall a man who had appeared on Tic Tac Dough in the 1950s popping up on the Winker's version in the 1970s (I remember it being the CBS daytime version but I could be remembering wrong). Man, he was terrible. He had a hard time wrapping his mind around the newer rules and it cost him.
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[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'139802\' date=\'Dec 6 2006, 07:19 PM\']I seem to recall a man who had appeared on Tic Tac Dough in the 1950s popping up on the Winker's version in the 1970s (I remember it being the CBS daytime version but I could be remembering wrong). Man, he was terrible. He had a hard time wrapping his mind around the newer rules and it cost him.[/quote]
Like the one which said answers wouldn't be furnished to contestants in advance? ;-)
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'139804\' date=\'Dec 6 2006, 08:15 PM\']
[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'139802\' date=\'Dec 6 2006, 07:19 PM\']I seem to recall a man who had appeared on Tic Tac Dough in the 1950s popping up on the Winker's version in the 1970s (I remember it being the CBS daytime version but I could be remembering wrong). Man, he was terrible. He had a hard time wrapping his mind around the newer rules and it cost him.[/quote]
Like the one which said answers wouldn't be furnished to contestants in advance? ;-)
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And you get a gold star.
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"Dan--uh, I mean, MY MOTHER told me to pick number 8, Wink."
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'139804\' date=\'Dec 6 2006, 08:15 PM\']
[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'139802\' date=\'Dec 6 2006, 07:19 PM\']I seem to recall a man who had appeared on Tic Tac Dough in the 1950s popping up on the Winker's version in the 1970s (I remember it being the CBS daytime version but I could be remembering wrong). Man, he was terrible. He had a hard time wrapping his mind around the newer rules and it cost him.[/quote]
Like the one which said answers wouldn't be furnished to contestants in advance? ;-)
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What new rules? Xs and Os and first to three in a row wins.
The only new rule I can think of is that one didn't risk one's winnings to continue.
And also what Mike said above.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'139745\' date=\'Dec 6 2006, 09:34 AM\']
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'139741\' date=\'Dec 6 2006, 05:52 AM\']
I remember hearing Richard Dawson say to a few families who lost on the daytime version of Feud, something like "we'll use you on our nighttime show".
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Richard Dawson did a lot of talking out of his hat when he was doing that show.
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Are you sure it was his hat and not another location? ;-)
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'139804\' date=\'Dec 6 2006, 08:15 PM\']
[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'139802\' date=\'Dec 6 2006, 07:19 PM\']I seem to recall a man who had appeared on Tic Tac Dough in the 1950s popping up on the Winker's version in the 1970s (I remember it being the CBS daytime version but I could be remembering wrong). Man, he was terrible. He had a hard time wrapping his mind around the newer rules and it cost him.[/quote]
Like the one which said answers wouldn't be furnished to contestants in advance? ;-)
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Thank you for causing me to spit Pepsi out of my nose with this one, Klauss. :-)
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'139779\' date=\'Dec 6 2006, 04:51 PM\']
Didn't someone from the Art Fleming era of Jeopardy! play in the Alex Trebek-hosted version, too?
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A contestant named Richard was on the premiere of the 1978 version, then went on Trebek's in 1995. I remember seeing the latter ep. in someone's collection (pretty sure it was Joe Raygor's).